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Title: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 07, 2008, 12:02:36 am
I just heard about a post in a magazine from 1901, where they predicted various things for the year 2001.  They were pretty right on with a lot of it, and even things where they weren't correct, they still had similar concepts or ideas in some parts, or trends leading in that direction.  BTW, these weren't any kind of supernatural predictions, like psychics or fortunetellers....just a group of thinkers.

Anyway, it got me to thinking what I thought might be possible in the future.

One thing I see happening, hopefully in my lifetime, is the way we shop for groceries.  To me, the concept of bringing the food in trucks, unloading to a shelf, putting the items from the shelf to the cart, putting the items from the card to the conveyor, putting the items in a bag, putting the bags back in the cart, putting the items in your car, and putting them in your house seems like a lot of inefficiency.  You're moving the same product at least 5 times.  I think we probably won't be using a cart system at some point, and possibly just scan the items as they go in the cart.  ...and then take the carts with us in the car.  Redefine the whole process.  You're already seeing parts of this now.

I also think that eventually, we'll all speak offshoots of the same language.

Anyone have any thoughts?


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: stinkfish on March 07, 2008, 12:51:50 pm
I don't see much of an evoluition in grocery shopping coming. Things have pretty much been the same all along. The only way to avoid moving food multiple times would be to grow your own.

I don't understand what you mean about language. A large population of the world already does speak off shoots of the same language. (Latin).  Mandarin and Cantonese are off shoots of the same language I believe. Are you suggesting that there may be a global, universal language that all people may use one day, or use variations of?


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 07, 2008, 01:03:28 pm
^^ Yes, when I say offshoots of the same language, I mean that we may have different dialects, but by and large, we'll all be able to understand each other across developed nations.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: stinkfish on March 07, 2008, 01:10:11 pm
^^ That's the role that English plays now, and has played for quite some time now. It may not always be that way, but English should remain thje lingua franca for many more generations. (If I'm totally not getting your point, and making you pull your hair out, please stop doing that, and I'm sorry.)


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: bsfins on March 07, 2008, 01:10:21 pm
Well I'm going to disagree with Stink here for aminute...Grocery stores,or General stores..used to have you walk to a counter and tell the clerk what you wanted and he would run the Isles to get what you wanted....Piggly Wiggly was the first store that you actually went through and shopped for yourself...They opened in 1916....(I remember seeing a history channels special about it) People would get dressed up to go shopping....I wouldn't mind seeing an idea alot like Daves....
http://www.pigglywiggly.com/cgi-bin/customize?aboutus.html (http://www.pigglywiggly.com/cgi-bin/customize?aboutus.html)

I'd like to see a realistic virtual reality system...
An internet that was more like a virtual reality...
Have the ablity to live on another planet....




Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 07, 2008, 01:12:47 pm
Stinkfish, you're on the track to what I'm saying.  English is starting to become that language, but only when it comes to business.  High-level Chinese businessmen may speak English now, but the average guy on the street doesn't.

What I'm saying is that I see more than just a common language between the elites of a country, but also down into the middle class, as technology improves.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 07, 2008, 01:15:27 pm
There have also been some changes in grocery shopping recently.  Publix had a program where you ordered online and delivered your groceries.  It tuned out to be ahead of its time and not cost effective for most, but it did provide a different way of doing things.  I see a possible variation on this -- maybe buying online and then doing the pickup yourself?  ...but I don't see things laid on on big aisles in a traditional way forever.  As our population grows, that experience is going to become unmanageable to do manually.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: StL FinFan on March 07, 2008, 01:18:06 pm
I have the feeling that all music will go digital eventually and the cd will become a thing of the past.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 07, 2008, 01:20:43 pm
CDs are already digital.  I think that because of that, CDs are almost future proof.  The distribution models may change, but so long as its a digital format, and CDs can hold digital media, they'll be relevant.  ...the same for DVD.

If you mean that they might stop selling them, you may be right.  But I question how long it will take people to let go of a physical product.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: StL FinFan on March 07, 2008, 01:23:29 pm
Yes, I meant they would stop selling pre-recorded cds eventually.  I enjoy the artwork and liner notes (I miss albums, they were easier to read), so I would miss that aspect.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: bsfins on March 07, 2008, 03:20:49 pm
Well reading STL's post made think of this ....I want to quit paying for the same piece of music,over,and over,and over...because of change of format....I have some music,On 8 track,Vinyl,Cassette tape,and Cd...
I shouldn't have to Buy the music over again to put it on the latest device...I've bought it enough...

(Sorry for the Hijack there)


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: StL FinFan on March 07, 2008, 03:23:55 pm
I feel ya, Lil B.  Then they put out a "deluxe" version with 2 or 3 more tracks on it, or with a DVD and you end up having duplicate cds!  Or you have very nice friends who will rip and burn stuff for you.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on March 07, 2008, 04:02:59 pm
I think we're going to come up with something to replace some biological needs.  Like sleep.  I wouldn't doubt that some pill or therapy is going to simulate the brain's waves produced while asleep to drastically reduce the amount of sleep we need or maybe even eliminate the need for sleep altogether.  Instead of humans needing to sleep half of their lives, maybe it will be reduced to 1/3.  Talk about efficiency and 20 hour work days...


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: stinkfish on March 07, 2008, 04:10:02 pm
I'm glad that I don't work for Vegas


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: DolFan619 on March 07, 2008, 04:14:27 pm
  I don't think we're that far away from having the option of cars driving themselves. 


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: maquaw on March 07, 2008, 11:26:58 pm
  I don't think we're that far away from having the option of cars driving themselves. 

Yeah, I agree.  There is already a car on the market that parks itself, and with GPS being the thing now it wouldn't take much to do.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: landlocked on March 08, 2008, 06:00:29 pm
i've always worn glasses or contact lenses.i can see in maybe 25 years with lasik the way it is now,that nobody will ever have to have bad vision,they will be able to pretty much fix your eyesight at the flip of a switch.
and,call this a reach,but i really believe that there will be a way to "beam" stuff from one place to another.maybe not people,but freight like groceries for instance,eliminating the need for trucks,warehouses.i heard that in australia,about 5 or 6 years ago that two scientists had actually transported a single atom across a room somehow.weird and kind of star trek-ish,if you will,but i can see it happening.
don't laugh--but i can remember watching star trek as a kid and they would take these weird devices out of their pockets,flip them open,and actually talk to each other.now everyone has one.


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 08, 2008, 06:31:15 pm
There have also been some changes in grocery shopping recently.  Publix had a program where you ordered online and delivered your groceries.  It tuned out to be ahead of its time and not cost effective for most, but it did provide a different way of doing things.  I see a possible variation on this -- maybe buying online and then doing the pickup yourself?  ...but I don't see things laid on on big aisles in a traditional way forever.  As our population grows, that experience is going to become unmanageable to do manually.

Grocery stores in my area have done the delivery thing for several years now. I remember we used the service once, right after Josh was born, and he's 5 1/2 now. We ordered and paid online with a credit card, and they delievered it a few hours later. The drawback was that if they were sold out of an item you wanted (for example Skippy Peanut Butter), they'd substitute a different brand (for example JIF), and sometimes you may have wanted the specific brand (I am partial to Skippy). They give you the ability to say no when the guy delivers the substitute, but then you need to wait for them to issue you a credit.

They also do have the option of shopping online and then picking it up at the store. This works really well with working couples, who stop to pick up their groceries on the way home.

For both of these services, they have a service fee (something like $10 for every hundred you spend, with a $10 fee if you spend less than $100). The drawback for retailers is that you lose out on a lot of impulse sales, which is really big in grocery stores (people shopping hungry tend to buy more foods they didn't plan to buy).


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Brian Fein on March 08, 2008, 07:32:23 pm
I think there will come a point in time when cash will be abolished.  With debit cards, credit cards, etc., I very rarerly carry cash anymore, and now things like SunPass, and Gift Cards, I don't see the need for cash in the distant future. 


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: bsfins on March 08, 2008, 07:43:16 pm
I'm just the exact opposite of Brian...I rarely use my credit card,or gift certficates...I rarely walk out of the Door with less than $100 in my pocket....


Title: Re: Ideas of the future.
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 08, 2008, 10:18:46 pm
I'm just the exact opposite of Brian...I rarely use my credit card,or gift certficates...I rarely walk out of the Door with less than $100 in my pocket....

Mental note- Mug Lil B  ;)