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So what's that stuff I remember hearing about Johnson not being a cancer/punk?

I hate to say I told you so, but...

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And what was CIN's record last year?

I told you so.

What a piece of crap...Last time I checked you're a damn football player.  Your job?  To play in football games.  What does it take for these guys to STFU and just play?

  Good.  Maybe he'll finally go away for awhile.  Piece of crap.

The Bengals currently pick 9th.  I'd take their first and second rounder along with Ocho Cinco and trade out of the top spot.  That gives us four of the first 64 picks and an instant upgrade to our receiver corps.

Chad Johnson = TO.

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I'd take Johnson in a second if we can get him in a fair deal.  He's not a "cancer"; rather I think he just wants to win and is a competitor.  Not to mention one of the best WR's in the league.  He has NO off-the-field issues.  I believe if he has a strong boot up his ass (ie Sparano/Parcells), and we start winning some games, it would be a good idea to entertain the thought of him coming here.

No doubt.........If we could score Chad I'd have a serious Orgasm ! Thats a guy that could even make our QB's look halfway decent.  :P

I would say that this entire paragraph applies equally well to T.O.

Just say no to Chad Johnson.

I like him a lot. But just think. The Dolphins suck, and personalities like his won't be very hapy for very long on a bad team. It wouldn't take long for him to blow up. And besides, who's going to get him the ball?

Here is my major problem about people calling Johnson a cancer: he didn't start this, the Bengals did. After a horrible season, who got the blame? It wasn't the defense that was decimated and placed 27th overall. It wasn't an underperforming offense, or a 24th ranked running game. It wasn't even the coaching staff. It was placed on Johnson by the Bengals. He had a great year. The offense did well passing the football, ranking 7th, with his help. He didn't cause the Bengals to suck last season. In fact, he was one of the few players still keeping them in games.

Unfortunately, this is all a he-said-he-said situation. Johnson says the Bengals aren't treating him well, and the Bengals are saying they never did anything to push him away. But, you gotta believe something went wrong. I tend to believe the Bengals are the ones who fucked up. The guy had no problems being with the Bengals this long, and let's face it, the Bengals haven't really been the team to beat. I don't think Johnson is a cancer. I'd be glad to have him on the Bucs.

Why the hell would Chad Johnson want to come here anyway?  He would want to go to a better team than the Bengals, not a worse one.  The chances of him coming here are slim and none.

Since I was one of the ones who backed Chad's "talent level," I am more than a little disappointed to see his behavior go downhill this quickly. I still think he's one of the 3-4 most talented receivers in the game...shame he doesn't have the head to match.

I don't care what anybody say's Chad Johnson is a cancer ! If he want's off the Bengles there's more professional ways to do it then to rip your team every chance you get. Johnson reminds me of a little child who threw a fit because he couldn't get his way. This is PROFESSIONAL football if he doesn't want to make millions a year playing this year let him collect welfare, what a scrub.

Can't have a team full of nicey nice people. Every group of individuals has its assholes.  I don't care what kind of person Chad is as long as he's a team Player and Performs. That he does. Sign Him!!!

Since nobody answered my question before, I ask again :  Why in the hell would he even want to come here?  This team is a long way away from being contenders again.

He wouldn't want to come here, and we shouldn't want him to come here. This isn't a team that is 1-2 marquee players away, it's a team at ground level of a full franchise rebuilding project. It's also a team without an established QB at this point, and I think both "contender status" and "established QB" would have to be high on Chad's wish list.

Team players do not rip their team and coaches every chance he get's. Put him on unemployment!!!

I like Chad Johnson, and despite him acting like an asshole in situations like this, I am much more okay with this kind of disturbance than with those who are getting into legal trouble, domestic abuse, etc.

That said, (even though I've said I think CJ would fit here), based on his newest tantrum, I don't think it's true anymore.  If he wants to get out of Cincy so that he can so to a winner, what would he want in Miami?  He's made a big enough name for himself that he can go to a competitor to put them over the top.  I don't think he wants to go back to the bottom and work to bring a team up.

  I can't see Chad coming to Miami, nor do I want him coming to Miami.  This team has much more pressing needs than Chad Johnson.

The only team Chad Johnson wants to play for is the Cowboys or the Patriots.  Maybe the Colts.  I think it'd be a funny slap in his face if the Bungles traded him to the lowly Dolphins, Rams, or Falcons.

Don't most high tier players have a contract clause that allows them to accept or reject a trade?

Not really; I believe no-trade clauses (which is essentially what you just described) are pretty rare in the NFL.

But there wouldn't be much point to trading him to a team that he didn't want to go to; he'd just refuse to report to the new team (like he is at CIN now), so he wouldn't carry much value.

The only reason he'd want to come to Miami is because it's his hometown.

johnson DOES want to come to miami - remember when he said "call me parcells, stop playin' 'round"  ??

He was only Jokin when he said that.  But ??? ???  He also siad he would not mind playing in front of his hometown.(MIA)   ::) ::)

  Agreed.  If Chad isn't happy playing on an offense with one of the best QBs in the NFL, he would definetly not be a happy camper in Miami.  He is definetly not a guy that would want to be part of another rebuilding project.  He is a very talented and entertaining WR, but with his current attitude needs to go where HE wants to go. 

I like his attitude. He wants the best and demands it. How long since we have seen that kind of attitude in Miami?   I'll tell you what though........I have faith in Parcells. That man almost made a gentleman out of Keyshawn Johnson. if Bill talks to the guy and feels he's Miami Material I'm all for it. If he's a punk.......he won't get by the Parcells Punk ass bitch meter. But I'm all for some people coming to this team with some attitude.  As long as they back it up with action.  ;)

No thank you,Why would Miami want to give up draft picks,Plus he's going to want a new contract....Hmmm Give up picks,and big contact to a WR that just turned 30,that just developed an attitude.....Doesn't make alot of sense to me...

The only pick I'd consider is a swap with the Bengals.  They get our #1 and we get their #9

I don't want Chad Johnson, no way, no how.  >:(

^^I thought that's what I was saying.... :D but I guess it didn't come out that way....

Thats what I'm talking about. And we save Millions under the cap not paying #1 overall Money...... ;)  Look how good we did last year at #9!  :D

We didn't have the Tuna drafting for us last year.

Understatement of the week............

The Bengals have turned down an offer from the Redskins for Chad Johnson. Their 1st round pick this year (21st overall) and a conditional pick next year - 3rd round minimum, up to 1st round depending on performance.

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You got love Marvin Lewis reply to Chad Johnson today, this post is from nfl.com



CINCINNATI -- The Bengals are calling Chad Johnson's bluff.

Tired of the receiver's posturing for a trade, coach Marvin Lewis said Tuesday that Johnson should keep his word and sit out the season -- the strongest comment yet from an organization that is reluctant to let him go.

 Chad Johnson, WR
Cincinnati Bengals

2007 Statistics:
REC: 93
YDS: 1,440
AVG: 15.5
TDS: 8

Lewis also said that linebacker David Pollack is leaning toward retirement. The former first-round draft pick broke a bone in his neck while making a tackle during the 2006 season and went through months of difficult healing and rehabilitation.

Pollack's decision isn't a surprise. He has said all along that he doubted he would return if there was a chance he could injure his neck again.

Lewis was pointed in his comments about Johnson. The Pro Bowl receiver has been disgruntled since the middle of last season, when his look-at-me antics came under criticism.

He became the epitome of Cincinnati's 7-9 season when he sniped at quarterback Carson Palmer during a loss to New England. Johnson ran the wrong route on a pass play, resulting in a game-turning interception. He initially blamed Palmer for the problem.

Since the end of last season, Johnson has been lobbying for a trade even though he agreed to a long-term deal with the Bengals two years ago. Johnson's contract would pay him $3 million next season and extends through 2010, with a club option for 2011.

Although Johnson stopped talking to reporters in Cincinnati, he has done numerous national interviews during which he threatened to sit out the season if he's not traded. Lewis responded Tuesday by saying he should follow through with his threat.

"I've stated our case with Chad," Lewis said. "He has a contract through 2011. He's stated without an opportunity to go to a different team and a new contract, he wasn't going to play. I think he's a man of his word and says he's not going to play, so don't play."

Lewis said the Bengals haven't received a trade offer for Johnson. The club has been consistent in saying it won't trade him.

Lewis said an ESPN report that Washington had offered draft picks for Johnson was "a little errant."

Other teams have traded away stars when they started becoming divisive. Bengals owner Mike Brown has a history of refusing to give in to player demands. When running back Corey Dillon tried to force the team to trade him in 2003, the Bengals waited until after the season to send him to New England.

In that case, it was more about getting rid of a player they no longer needed -- Rudi Johnson had emerged as the starter -- than it was about satisfying Dillon.

The Bengals need Johnson in the short-term. No. 3 receiver Chris Henry was released after yet another arrest earlier this month, leaving the Bengals with little depth at the position. They might take a receiver high in the draft this weekend.

Johnson didn't return a phone message Tuesday. Last week, when Palmer told reporters that Johnson had assured him he would show up for mandatory team activities, the receiver took issue with him.

On Tuesday, Palmer declined to discuss it further.

"I take it with a grain of salt," said Palmer, who is working out with the team in Cincinnati. "I've moved on and I'm over it. I'm not really going to comment on it much more."

 

I would like to see him next to Moss?  May be  get him like we got Moss!!

I hope the Bengals stick to their guns and make him play or sit on his own accord. There is no way he sits out an entire season without the ability to show off on tv.

The Bengals turned down TWO potential first rounders for Ocho Cinco?   Wow. 

^ Now thats just plain silly!  Why the hell would you turn that down?  The Bungles are looking to be shit on like the Lions for what happened to Barry....

According to Marvin, the report about the Skins' trade offer wasn't accurate.

BUMP

He showed up at minicamp, but practiced only when he wanted to.  Funny thing is, Plaxico Burress did the same thing because he wants more money from the Giants.  Both are clients of Drew Rosenhaus.

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