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All the picks are in, Mr. Irrelevant has been crowned for another year, and the 2008 NFL Draft has come to a close. 

Here are the Dolphins picks by round:

1. Jake Long- OT Michigan
2. Phillip Merling- DE Clemson
2. Chad Henne- QB Michigan
3. Kendall Langford- DT Hampton
4. Shawn Murphy- OG Utah State
6. Jalen Parmele- RB Toledo
6. Donald Thomas- OG Connecticut
6. Lex Hilliard- RB Montana
7. Lionel Dotson- DT Arizona

You can also consider the two guys we got from Dallas for our 4th rounder, LB Akin Adoyele and TE Anthony Fasano part of our draft. 

Any thoughts on what went down?  How do you think we did?  What did we hit on?  What did we miss on? 

Discuss.

So we got Henne with the pick we got for Chambers.  I'd say that was a good move by Mueller.  Probably his only good move though.

I like what we've done I guess, although I STILL disagree with the Booker trade.

No DB, no WR.   ???

I'd have to give this draft a C+, although based on how the second day rookies perform, this grade could be raised. 

Fact is, a lot of duplicate positions were chosen on the second day of the draft, and WR, LB, and DB went completely unaddressed. 

I'll trust the Tuna until he gives me a reason not to.

Another good question..... which undrafted free agents are now being targeted?

I am confused why we didnt pick up any WR, we are in desperate need as we have no threat in that position.
Over all I give draft a B grade much better then last years D-

A video I made of the draft class.  Please tell me if I screwed something up before other people notice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVRcp4RoBss

I think giving draft grades the day the draft ends is laughable. They shouldn't be called draft grades at all. For accuracy's sake, they should sometimes be called "how much name recognition did we get?" and other times they should be called "how much do I personally like the players selected." Grading a draft the day the draft ends is like grading dinner before the meal is served...


I give it a B-, because I think dessert is gonna be good.


;)

I wouldn't grade it the way I did because of name recognition, but largely because a lot of positions of need went ignored, some serious talent was passed over, and they bucked their self proclaimed trend of going for guys from "Big name schools"

  I would say a B.  Selecting a second running back, when we could've had a WR baffled me, but all in all a good draft.



 

From your perspective. Consider for a moment the possibility that the professional personnel evaluators might have a different opinion of the teams' needs than you or I or any other fan, and of the current rostered players' ability to fill those needs. There are also undrafted rookie FA's to be signed, and a second wave of veteran FA's to diamond-hunt in.


Again, from your perspective. I'm trying to imagine a situation where either Parcells or Ireland says to the other, "Hey, let's pass over some serious talent, for some that's less serious." I just can't do it though, no matter how fertile my imagination.


They started the draft with Michigan-Clemson-Michigan. Sounds like they got some big school action in there. Past trends were past trends, and were based on the specific players involved in those past drafts. The trends weren't restrictions.

Personally, I am glad that Miami went after the best talent they could get (based, of course on their professional opinion), rather than draft someone from a big school just because he went to a big school.

  For those that wanted a receiver, looks like we just got one.  Personally, I think it's GREAT signing.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080427/BREAKING02/80427053

Best talent they could get eh?   Just a few hours ago, I could've sworn I saw you say this:


I like the first day picks.  The second day picks went against their trend and had me completely baffled. 

Fact is, if Cam Cameron and Randy Mueller had done the drafting for the second day, Dolphins fans would've been storming the practice facility with torches and pitchforks.

Third team AP all-american, Davone Bess... Good signing, but hope he's past some of the behavior issues he had when he was a teenager.

I was very happy with our first day picks, but pretty confused by the 2nd day stuff.

I don't understand drafting the RBs, especially two of them, and especially after we'd just gotten rid of Booker.
From what I read from draft sites, it sounded like Dan Connor, LB Penn State would've been a good selection to start the 3rd round.

I'm not sure I grasp the concept of getting 2 DTs, 2 OGs, and 2 RBs.  Was it to make sure that you had a guy for each of those positions?  Maybe it was a "best available" thing....  Who knows.

Perplexing to say the least.

Day 1 - A
Day 2 - D
Overall - B-

Good pickup.  I'm sure Samson Satele and Regan Mauia (assuming he doesn't get suspended or kicked off the team), will make him feel right at home.

Is your opinion of my talent evaluation skills higher than it is of Ireland's and Parcells'? If the answer is the obvious "of course not," then you should take my personal draft-winces with a grain of salt.

Not sure if it was a best available thing or not.  I think it's more along the lines of getting bigger and younger, as well as building your team from the point of attack on. 


Well, fact is, we both agree that they passed over some major talent for some guys that are not household names.  Plus keep in mind that you do have some experience in scouting talent. 

Maybe you should go work for the Dolphins.  Get all of us here free tickets to the games.   ;D ;D ;D

  I caught a lot of Hawaii football games this season.  Davone Bess can play, we got a steal getting this guy.  Take it to the bank.

You think his character issues prevented him from being drafted?

  Maybe.  But, that incident was a long time ago, and from what I've seen of Bess, it looks like he's grown up.  His 40 yard dash wasn't that great, but if you've ever watched Bess play, this dude can fly.  40 yard dash time be damned, Bess has football speed.  Besides, I would think that front office would've asked Reagan and Samson for an opinion on Bess, and they probably stood up and vouched for the guy.  I'm glad they did!  I love this signing, I really do.

Good points.  If you could work your magic and keep us informed of any undrafted free agents, that would be great.  I'll start a thread for it.

I'm going to look at it this way...(all this means Zilch till they strap on a helmet)

We had a bunch of holes all over this team,We addressed a few holes on the O-line Jake long IMO great pick,especially if we would have taken one of the Ends (long,Gholston),Matt Ryan,or Dorsey...We may have had to trade back up into the first round to a upper tier Left tackle...B+ move

P.Merling pick I feel was a good move,Good first round talent at the top of the second round....B

C.Henne,I like the idea we didn't have to trade to get him he was there...Insureance if Beck doesn't workout,and Josh Mccown is a total bust....I'll give it a C move It's a QB,We'll see how much control Parcells has on the coaching,Henne wont see the field this year if Parcells has his way....

K.Langford, Defensive end/tackle what's that say about the guys we have now? Holiday,Starks,Roth,R.Wright,Solai...C I trust the trifecta saw something they really liked.....

S.Murphy,OG ...B,We have a hole at guard..it was a need pick,and I think we panicked to trade up to get him when there was a run of 3 O-lineman....C- (I think they might have liked one or 2 of the o-lineman that were taken in the same picks)

J.Parmele We are forgetting we let chatman (for nothing in return) go because he didn't fit our size requirements...This guy's got the size the bruising style of running that Our offensive coordinator is going to run...Booker can't do....C

D. Thomas OG - We need more depth along the line ...C We need depth yes,but we now have 3 guy's that are 6th round picks for 1 starting Guards spot (Mormino,Murphy,and Thomas....I'd like to seen this addressed higher as a fan....

L.Hilliard I have no problems taking the flyer,another bigger back...Ricky Williams 1 screw up from being gone,Ronnie coming back from injury,Then what Cobbs? Who i think will be gone.... C...

L.Dotson Another D-lineman Ok it's a 7th round flyer...but how about somewhere where we could use it...C-

Hindsight is 20/20...
LB Akin Adoyele and TE Anthony Fasano A for getting 2 players out of a 4th round pick....C on Adoyele,a B on Fasano...
I liked the trade Friday night,Still Like the Te....But have soured abit. Excuse me for being a broken record,But Dan Connor was projected to be gone late first early/second round....and he slipped to the third round....

With our offensive system that we're going to run,It's not super surprising to me that we didn't "draft" a WR..DB,does surprise me quite abit though....

I am happy to see us addressing some of outr other needs through the undrafted freeagents.....

Davone Bess is small and doesn't have great speed, but he has really good hands and runs really great routes. This kid average over 1,000 in all three of his college years. Good luck to Davone, because we need help in the wr position.

  Phillip Merling, Chad Henne, Kendall Langford, Shawn Murphy, Jalen Parmele, Lex Hilliard, and Lionel Dotson.  Congradulations, and Welcome to the Miami Dolphins!  With that said, sign your contracts and get your asses in camp!  The number one overall pick got his deal done, what are you waiting on?

Like a lot of you I'm not too impressed with Day 2 however the plan is to beef up the line and this is surely our biggest need.  Keep in mind that this is a long term project and the first thing you need is to make sure our QB's aren't run over and this has been a problem for some time and some real effort was made to address this.  Overall I'm fairly happy although we'll know more of course when we see how many of these guys make the team. 

Dang we missed out on Bromme by 1 pick! But it seems like Parcells wanted Henne all along so although I think brome was the better of the 2......(Like Tommy said)I'll go with Parcells until he gives me a reason not too.

Can someone explain why we went with 2 Runningbacks (our deepest position) when we have NO standout recievers?  Hell we could have picked up Colt Brennan in the 6th round.

I think S. Murphy with be the steal of the draft for us. Our OL is much improved after this years draft.  However I am concerned with Wide receiver, Cornerback and Defensive Line.   I know we can't do it all in one draft but why stock pile at a position like Running Back when we clearly have other issues?

^ I think those 2 we picked up will be groomed for fullback and blocking duties.  Maybe some special teams as well.

Carolina Panther fans around here sure are glad the Fins passed on Dan Connor. Miami missed out on this kid.

we got the 2 RB's because Mauia is going to get shit-canned for his altercation last week

The dolphins drafted well and improved quality of the team.  I predict that the Dolphins will win twice, maybe even three times as many game this year as they did last year.   ;D

I really like the day one picks, long overdue -- when was the last major line acquisition since, Webb and Sims? -- and Henne was a steal. Lets see if the new Fins scouting staff know what a great defensive back is, b/c aggressive FA action is required to save you next season

And when Tuna tells him he's no longer a Dolphin, he'll flip the desk over and scream, "I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!!!!!" 

Then he'll go out by busting through the wall.

 ;D ;D ;D

I just can seem to figure out what we are going to do about our pass defense (secondary).  I thought the draft was going to bring at least one solid corner.  The only reason our pass defense didn't look horrible last year was because every team was too busy running the ball down our throats.  I hope we get some secondary help before the start of the season.  By the way, anyone notice how the Tuna never fixed the secondary in Big D?

I also agree with the Dan Connor talk.  I would have loved him in Miami.

Otherwise, I thought the draft was damn near perfect.

Secondary needs a lot more work than some free agents and I'm cutting them some slack and assuming they are looking to get the line fixed first and not giving the opposing team all day to throw is a good first step.