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I am hoping this would be a bipartisan subject, and just something to talk about. Here in Maine for what seems to be the 100th time they are trying to let voters decide if Maine should have a casino. Now normally I jump on the no wagon, but due to the state of economy can it create jobs and bring in out of state revenue? I think about guys like Mainedolfan and myself if we wanted to go to a Casino it would be more beneficially to go to CT, instead of driving a longer distance in Maine. My question is would you favor a casino in your state(if you state has one, tell us how you feel) in hopes of creating jobs and revenue instead of the state raising your tax's? I admit I'm on the fence this time around.

I believe in Freedom. Why should someone be prohibited from placing a wager?

The payout percentages are better than taking a "payday loan", but that's perfectly legal. Might as well let the paycheck ride if you want to throw your money away. (Sorry, that was off-topic).

Seriously, I like gambling every now and then. I'm not into casinos, though. Sportsbooks and maybe some poker... something where I can at least pretend that skill counts. (I know skill counts, what I mean is I can at least pretend MY skill counts).

I would give my patronage to whichever casino provided me with the most enjoyable gaming experience, regardless of which state it was in. What I'm looking for in a casino...

* More visible skin on the hostesses
* More oxygen in the AC
* More free food
* Better musical acts
* Any promotions that I feel I can exploit for a profit

We have "Riverboat Casinos" here and they have brought in a lot of money for the local area.  A portion of it is earmarked for schools.  There are loss limits in place also.  I don't care to gamble myself, but for most it seems to be a form of entertainment.  I think the posititves outweigh the negatives.

Thanks StL Finfan this is very beneficial information. A couple years ago they approved what is called a racecino in Bangor Maine. It's a race horse track that has slot machines, I am not sure but the slots may actually be at a different location in Bangor then the race track. I haven't really heard or seen any negative impact on Bangor but it's almost a 3 hour drive for people like Mainedolphin and I, where two full Casino's with big act's are three hours away in CT. I am on the fence but I feel I'm leaning toward voting for it.

I favor casino gambling, especially if it's kept in specific pockets, like casinos.

I think it's a good revenue stream and attracts tourism, plus I am not big on government making vices illegal for moral reasons.

I myself do not gamble, but do understand that they bring in a huge amount of revenue for the area. This can't be a bad thing. I see no problem with it. 

I am so on the fence about this issue it's not even funny.  I just don't know if I want this type of element in my state.

My guy says to let people go to Mohegan Sun or Foxwoods.

My head says that my state might need this thing.

This how I feel too, usually I jump on the no wagon real fast, but you know Maine they like raising tax's and spending money. Can this help off set it and can it help build jobs?

^^Depends on who you believe.

People on the pro side would have you believe that the casino will cure all the state's woes.

People on the con side say that the world will crack open, locusts will come and your dog will die if it passes.

Since we already have casinos in this state I can tell you they are no big deal. Maine will not turn into the next Vegas or Atlantic City because one casino is built. The Hard Rocks in Florida look like any other hotel from the outside and they are far enough apart they don't overrun the state. I say go for it because it is going to do nothing but bring a new form of entertainment as well as a revenue stream to the state.

In my long-stagnant hometown of Prescott, AZ, the addition of a big casino right at the edge of town did wonders for development and the overall economy of the area.  I am also right with you on government's role in legislating my vices.


And both sides are pro's at the con. ;)

Maine let me tell a little about California. We have a shit ton of casinos here, to the point we are scaring Nevada so bad they are pumping millions of dollars into campaigns to prevent anymore being built.
That being said we have had no major problems with them and the people who frequent them. On the flip side, we have not seen a lot of improvments by having them. It seems to be a wash. Yet the keep being built, even in bad economic times because people still want them and the chance to win enough money to solve their problems. I know it is not logical, but that is the nature of the beast.

Its a known fact that the surrounding area around any Casino turns to serious shit after gambling is introduced. The Life style around these places is rough.  But like someone else said........its a free Country. However it needs to be seriously regulated. Keep it in areas far away from communities.  Corruption is also wide spread because of all the Cash , there needs to be a tight reign on it. Keep the Prostitution, Drug usage and other fun activities down and it could be a great thing.

I'm sure you see that in your line of work, but the casinos that are out here in the 'burbs do not have that problem.  I go to them occasionally with others (gambling isn't really my thing) and I feel perfectly safe going by myself and meeting my friends there.  The casinos that were built near areas already in decline = whole 'nuther story.

That is known SPECULATION. This has been the reason for strip clubs having such a bad rap, but did anyone think strip clubs are usually located in shit areas anyway. I am not sure about the Hard Rock in West Palm (is that where it is), but there are no issues around the Tampa one. Like I said earlier, it looks like any other hotel.

Hey what ever bro.  Your a person that goes to these places and I'm a guy who WORKS them. But you know it all right?  ;)

Do you have casinos in your town? Two of us have said there are no issues in our area.

The Hard Rock down here is great.  It's a much nicer establishment that many other areas, and it comes with a nice downtown with lots of clubs and restaurants. 

We just got blackjack here, too.

I think that whenever you get that many people gathered in one place, you're bound to have fights and stuff.  But it's not a scummy neighborhood.  If anything, it brings out well dressed people, looking to spend money and have a fun night...not riff-raff.

We do have them and I love them for the Job security they offer us. For the most part places on the West coast and South Florida are reasonable run well. I didn't say it couldn't be done, but the possibility for corruption in places like this is enormous if you don't keep a tight reign on it.   

I went to O'haras casino in New Orleans and it was very clean and seemed quite safe. Most of the people I saw there were either super old or really well dressed. I think casinos are a good thing for a state and as far as seedy types showing up, that happens everywhere. When I worked at a nightclub we had the nice upscale people there to drink and have fun, but a lot of ganster douchebags would come too to pick up girls and not spend so much money.  :-\ Anyways my point was there would always be fights in every group. I would throw out gangsters, preppies, and even 30 something professionals. So IMO any place where people congregate and drink alcohol attract seedy people, so if a club or bar can open in a community area or close to it, it's wrong for them to try and stop a casino being built there.

I'm in favor of casinos as well.  I gamble very carefully, but I would still go every so often for the atmosphere. 

Casinos would work wonders for the State of Florida's economy right now. 

I guess that would be a plus for the Casino they want in Maine it's issolated and nothing even close to it. The Native American's want to build it on thie tribal land, I might be wrong and if I am I know Maine will correct me.

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I'm not sure if you knew this....
Not if Proposition A passes November 4th...The loss limit is where no one can buy more than $500 worth of chips in less than 2 hours....Prop A will Take away the Loss limit,and Limit the Number of Casinos to Ones already built,or in the process of being Built....
From Ballotpedia.org?
According to the official fiscal impact estimate prepared by the State Auditor:

"State governmental entities will receive an estimated $105.1 million to $130 million annually for elementary and secondary education and $5 million to $7 million annually for higher education, early childhood development, veterans, and other programs. Local governmental entities receiving gambling tax and fee revenue will receive an estimated $18.1 million to $19 million annually.:[5]
The Missouri Department of Elementary and Secondary Education released a study in early October saying that if Proposition A passes, it will not provide funding for Missouri's largest school districts, and about one-quarter of Missouri's public school students attend class in districts that are projected to get nothing next year from the ballot measure.

School districts in St. Louis and Kansas City, suburban districts such as Independence and Parkway, and many smaller school systems such as Craig, Norborne and the Delta district of Pemiscot County are on the list projected by the education department to receive no funds.[6]

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This is one where I'm not sure about,I don't gamble,and most of the casinos (except down in Seneca Mo.) are too far for them to be worth me going to if I did....Rockaway Beach Mo. Near Branson, a few years ago wanted to Build one (One of Brett Farves Brothers? was a big investor or something,and was on the news constantly pushing for it  ???) They tried to get the "Have to be Riverboats " part of the removed,or get some type of exemption...It's former Touristy area,back in the 50's and 60's ,and Ever since it's been a ghost town.The way they talked,just the one casino would be able to employ the whole town,and jump start alot of other business'....So I see both sides...I feel it depends on how the money is divided to certain school districts if it would be worth it or not.....

My state is owned by casinos.  Our governor pushed to block "non-tribal" gambling to prevent competition and then accepted hundred$ of thousand$ in payoffs from casinos.  We're the only state in the union that has gambling but does not financially benefit from it.

Our state has over a $3,000,000,000 (billion) deficit and opening up casino ownership to anyone would have covered at least 10% of that.  

"Build it on tribal land" you say?  Sure, they start out that way.  Then any piece of property they buy becomes tribal land via a "trust" and soon casinos are anywhere.  

The casinos are always pushed as a great equalizer for the tribe.  In addition to supplying jobs, they'll have money for infrastructure, scholarships, etc, etc, etc.  However, due to corruption of the elders they rarely work out that way.

Casino's in your area?  No big deal - just be aware that you might be going down a very slippery slope.

HAHA, actually you are wrong again. The areas around our casinos, which happen to be on idian land, are clean and full of brand new houses built for the indians by indians, and they have their own medical facilities too. The casinos have gone a long way to bring up the indians here and try and break the cycle of poverty and drugs they were caught in.
But hey I only LIVE and WORKED around them, what do I know since I do not wear a badge. Just an idea, but try and take that chip of your shoulder and drop the defensive front you have built up as a result of your job before you log on here, as it would help the tone of your posts quite a bit. You do bring some good insight and ideas sometimes but they get lost in the outright hostility and condecending tone of your posts.
Contrary to your beliefs there is not a liberal plot to run you, RTW , and Frimp off the board. If there is, I did not get the memo

Our Indians Native Americans Casino Americans First Americans could learn a lot from your "Indians Native Americans Casino Americans First Americans.

I'll skip the applicable but tired pot-kettle retorts and just say, seriously now, who DOESN'T this apply to in the off-topic form?  Only a couple of fairer sex members come to mind.