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Many of you are convinced that he's a Socialist-terrorist-Marxist-racist-Communist-Anti-American-Muslim.  So, instead of running around like Chicken Little, trying to scare everyone into voting for the other guy, why not put some actual predictions about what you think will happen if he's elected?

Do you think he's going to turn the nukes towards us?
Is he the anti-Christ, and will battle God here on Earth, bringing about the Rapture?
Will he destroy Israel?
Will the economy full farther into ruin?
Will gays take over?
Will he put Jeremiah Wright on the $1 bill?

Seriously.  I'd like to know what you guys are so afraid of.

I predict that we'll have a new president for the talk shows to poke fun of.

I also predict that not much else will change...

I have to disagree with your second statement.  There will be change.  Obama will be either the next Franklin D Roosevelt, or the next Herbert Hoover. 

Tina Fey will lose a gig on SNL. 

I think the White House will be painted black.

From one of those emails that annoying people forward you.


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Will he destroy Israel?  He will not directly destroy Israel but he may not support Israel either.

Will the economy full farther into ruin?  Yes.

I think we found it.  They fear tolerance towards others.  OMG not that!

On a tangent: I think I've done a pretty good job of stopping stupid spam.  I've consistently responded to stupid crap like and shamed those that sent it.  However, I've never gotten anything this bad.

All of the above

I'll make Sargent , get a raise and have to pay more taxes for my accomplishment.  All the buisness's I go to will be forced to charge me more money becuase of the higher Taxes. I might have to move to England to pay lower Taxes then they do to the Queen.

1) Israel will attack Iran's nuclear facilities prior to Obama's inauguration to defend themselves.  The Arab world will be horrified in public but happy in the privacy of home because once Obama takes office it gives way to a full scale attack on Israel .. and we we stand by and do nothing as Biden has warned.  This will start the first and probably last nuke war.

2) Expect terrorism to start back up in the US as it is in Europe. 

3)We will drop our military spending by 25% so that our military will fall behind other nations.

4) Russia will expand it's territories

5) more liberal judges will be appointed to the Supreme Court making way for young girls to get abortions without consent, allowing gays to be married and opening up decency and moral laws from every state that has them.

6) Abortions will rise as will sexual diseases. There will also be by a rise in crime.

7) Conservative talk radio will cease

8) Terrorists will eat dinner in the White House. 

^^

After conservative radio is blotted out, all the Democrats will cheer, saying that it is a great day for the US and freedom of speech. Then, they will come after other things that the Dems might actually like.

(Before some of you say that I'm just being ridiculous, Obama and Pelosi both have said that they are for the fairness doctrine)

Will anyone have Cigar sex with fat chicks in the oval office?  ::)

Seriously........Do you really thing Obama will be that much of a push over wordwide? I think he's lying about the Tax thing , but he never struck me as a pushover. Bill and Al were pussies. I'm still glad we had GW over Gore in 2000........but what proof do you have that militarly Obama will not act?

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He did say that he would reduce our military. We might not be able to act if something like an attack on Israel were to happen.

Also, if you think gas prices were high before, think about what would happen if Israel attacked Iran. And, I'd bet money that if Obama wins, they will attack Iran before he takes office.

I honestly think,There will be a serious assassination attempt on his life.....It was 1980 Ronald Reagan,was the last one.... :'(

Do you really think he is an anti semite and would not help Israel?

When the hell did the USA ever defend Israel?  I don't mean block a UN resolution.   I don't mean sell arms. I mean militarily.

The answer is sorta once.  In exchange for  Israel not defending herself against attacks by Iraq during the Gulf War I, the USA attacked the Iraqi scuds that were being fired at Israel.  At the time the USA was already engaged in a war with Iraq. 

Please explain how this happens? Because abortions are legal everyone just runs out and gets one. Teh truth still remains. Abortion, even if legal, should be RARE. Teach your daughters about condoms and you have no need for both.

Don't mean sell arms?  Is is not a bunch of bullies in a school yard. Everyone knows we are tied at the Hip with Israel. But World politics does not work by us beating someone up in their defense. We taught them to Fish so we don't have to feed them.

Lord knows we all wish someone had that conversation with your parents............ ;D

seriously...........couldn't resist. JUST KIDDING! ;D 

Teach your teens to abstain and then you dont have to worry. 100% guarantee.

Yeah. That worked really well for Sarah Palin's daughter.

Here's what I honestly think will happen.

-  The economy will improve.  Part of this will be because Obama's tax plan will give relief to those who need it most right now, but another part will be because of the cyclical nature of the economy.

- Our standing will improve in the world.  As Obama is very popular with foreign citizens, foreign leaders will be more likely to be supportive of the US.  Some anti-American sentiment will diminish.

- Another terrorist attack is certainly a possibility (under either new president), as again, the cyclical nature of stuff like this happens.  To blame (or credit) Obama or McCain (or Bush) for a terrorist attack during their tenure would be unfair.

- Racial tensions will ease in this country, and a more open and honest dialogue about race will be on the table.

- There will be no change to our relationship with Israel.

- Obama will have to ditch some of the programs he's proposed, because the economy will not allow for as much spending in the short term.

- Laws on abortion and gay marriage will likely remain unchanged during his term, as this is really decided by the people and not the president.  However, these things are inevitable in my opinion, with next generation becoming more and more accepting of gay lifestyles, and Obama may appoint judges that will lay the groundwork for this to happen in 10 years.  Abortion will not change, because people support it and it's protected by a prior court case, which is difficult to overturn.

- Gun Control will remain largely unchanged, with the possibility of small limitations, like waiting times, background checks, etc.

- Obama will adopt the Clinton-era tactics for fighting terrorism -- no declaration or occupation, but a steady state of targeted bombings, special ops missions, undercover agents, etc.  It's cheaper and out of the public eye.

USA also sells arms to Israel's enemies.  USA has mutual defense pacts with many counties, Israel is not one of them. 

USA did not "teach Israel to fish."  In fact prior to Israel's win in '67 the USA sold Israel very little military equipment.  Israel learned to fought cause their life depended on it.   

Israel bombs Russian ally Iran. This draws the ire of the Soviets and the Chinese. After an EMP detonation over the midwestern U.S. that knocks us back to the stone age, Russians and Chinese move on Israel with no ally in sight. Only God will save Israel. Just thinking outloud.

Matt Cassel is selected SB 43 MVP after leading the Patriots to victory.

(I have the same prediction for a McCain presidency)

You can't teach your kids anything because the schools system and society does that for you.  Schools should teach the three Rs but somehow they have become the teachers of liberalism and are expanding that every election. This would get worse under Obama.

 

I was talking about the abstaining part being 100%, not that teens would actually listen :P

Quit hijacking my thread and make some predictions.

I counter that with we couldn't do much anyway. Air strikes are our only military option anywhere right now. Our military is already ate up and spread out.

Schools will continue to suck due to student as well as teacher apathy. We will pull out of Iraq at some point. The economy will make a slow progression upwards. Conservative talk radio will harp on everything he does. Liberals will realize he is not a savior. Stroke will continue to partake and hopefully my hangover will disappear by then.

I predict that an Obama presidency will result in a 13.32% increase in thread hijackings at TDMMC over the thread hijackings in the Bush administration.   :)

How about teaching your daughter about a better form of birth control than a condom......... the word "NO"

You have every right to either homeschool your children or send them to a private school.

And because Dave is being a whiny beyotch, I'll make some predictions:

1. The economy will begin to turn around. (I actually think this is going to happen regarless.)
2. Our troops will get out of Iraq.
3. There will be another terrorist attack. I think this is going to happen no matter what. They always like to test a new president.
4.  Racial tensions will get worse.
5. There will be a couple of attempts on Obama's life.
6. We get back some respect on the international tip.
7. Rush Limbaugh is finally out of a job.
8. Palin returns to Alaska NEVER to be heard from again.

Sorry Dave. Prediction is either way were going to hell in a handbasket. I do think Bama is anti-Jew. He's gonna push for a Palestinian state like everyone else.

First and foremost, why is it that we tend to think that only teenagers need abortion. There are adult women that need abortion for legitimate reasons, too.

And as we've seen teaching them to say no does not work.

I would also like to add that I think an Obama presidency would be the rebirth of conservative media.  Fox is losing ground to MSNBC, because it's easier to rag on the party that's in power.  I'm frankly surprised that Rush, Hannity, and Beck have been able to last in an environment like this for so long.  They'll be stronger than ever.

I've listened to them more in the last few weeks than ever but they give it to Bush too.  In fact ... if you turn on the radio at the right time and didn't know better you may not know that they are supporting McCain.

Let's be honest ... there is only so much of Rush, Hannity, Oberman, and a Chris Mathews that anyone can take.  Thank God things aren't as bad as any one of them make it out to be.   

I reject putting Chris Matthews in that group.  Rush, Hannity, Olberman....total spinners.  But not Matthews.

He likes Obama in this election, but he did support and vote for Bush, and he started out as a Republican, then later campaigned for Democrats.  I believe that he is a true independent voice.

I would add to my other predictions:

At some point during an Obama administration Chad Henne will become the starting QB for the Dolphins.

Madonna will be photographed at least once without underwear.

Old folks will move to Florida and Arizona when they retire.

ESPN will do a story declaring Bill Belichick the worst dress NFL head coach

Yankee fans and Red Soxes fans will clash in fights that lead in violence on several occasions.

Fox News will call the New York Times a liberal rag. 

1. TThere will be another terror attack on the United States.

2. There will be a very deep and long recession.

3. Obama Bin Laden will get impeached.

I'm not afraid of anything. It's all in the Grand Scheme of things.

Politicians cater to the mass consciousness of the people and right now, America is operating on empty. It could have been McCain, Rommey, Huckabee or anyone else. As the mass consciousness goes, the politicians follow it. It's not the other way around. It does matter who is in office...there are plans to bring the system of living in America to it's knees.

I expect the country to crash on the economic front which would usher in more government control over the economy and make the USA slaves to other countries, such as borrowing money etc. A lot of industries are falling, so this next President will COMPLETE the fall of the system.

We've already seen the Constitution ignored on several levels.

But if this country falls, it's a good thing. It's going to force people to be creative, independent and put more trust and faith in themselves and what they are doing instead of stuff coming out of the White House.

Obama cannot change ONE thing. The powers that be know that they need a rhetorical President that talks smooth enough to make the appearance that he's doing something when he's just shuffling chairs. McCain is too old for the job and he's just "Biden" his time.

Her daughter and a million others. You want a politician that cares!? Get one that is effected by the same cause. And really...........WTF else is there to do in Alaska anyway but Fish, Hunt and Fuck?

What about the 60 Nuke armed Subs we have all around the world including off the coast of Russia and China? Is Obama gonna scrap those too?  ::)

Meth.

Drug use is huge there.  Something to do with the shitty weather for part of the year.

Or to swallow............. ;D :D

I guess with all those woods and Cabins , and a VERY long way from Columbia they need to make their own shit. Not everyone is into the clean fresh air and living huh?

^^

I think it's more about living in the dark for several months out of the year, and how that can mess with your head.

^^^ Alaska is full of skumbags from my understanding as well. I knew a couple who lived there and you can hardly get the crack pipe out of his mouth unless you have a needle for him. He says people run from California up there to hide from the law.

I can definitely see that. I hate when it gets dark at around 4:30 - 5 in the Winter. I know Deputies that work in the Jail all day and get wierd becuase there are no Windows.  I'd go Nuts.

Not too bright. He's gotta know they have Police up there as well. Mexico is a bit closer for the Crackhead ...........I'm sure Alaska has its problems but They are everywhere .

Alaska is pretty lax when it comes to drug enforcement. 

Giving free money to people will not improve the economy. 

It will be great for the people who do not pay income taxes already.

Hamas endorsed him.  So yea for us.

IMO there will be a more likely terrorist attack because the fear of repercussions will be lower.   They already know what McCain will do.

  Will change nothing.  Bigots will still be bigots.  On both sides I might add.

Not 100% sure on that.  Odds probably not.

Lets hope so.  Universal health care is a bottomless pit.

Agree.

They will do as much as they possibly can to take guns out of US homes.

  Clinton handled terrorist like a coward.   We had several attacks & all he basically did was lob a couple of missiles.  Say what you will with Bush, but those type attacks have not happened under him.

^^^^  Why not make some predictions of your own instead of just sniping at mine from the sidelines?

Nothings going to change, it's going to get worse.

1. Taking troops out of Iraq - Good luck with that one. If everyone stopped listening to the doctored media that we get, you'll find out that the whole thing in Iraq is not about liberation, it's about big business and having a bigger presence of American business in the region. Pat Tillman was murdered at point blank range because he was going to reveal that they were over there protecting American contractors and no one has asked the question..."What are American contractors doing in a War Zone?"

You think those lobbyists (business) that have a claim or stake in that region with their business are going to allow McCain or Obama authorize a pull out? You'll get a staged "pullout". You've just got to know what stock footage that the network is using ( see Vietnam) when they give you images of soldiers coming back home.

2. The Economy - When you have the Dow that drops 900 points and then come back up 900 points, that should tell you one thing.  The powers that be can manipulate the economy and you. For example, it was reported that Indy Mac went under. Indy Mac did not go under, as a matter of fact, they kept hiring people. My condo loan was through Indy Mac and they offered to put me under an ARM stating that the economy was bad and that was the best way to go. B.S. The big wheels that delve in mortgage investments created a scenario and got paid off of people's fears. The economy is going to hell in a handbasket. Nothing Obama can do about that.

3. The Banks and the FRB -  This is a laugher. What can Obama or McCain do to possible stop these guys from printing money that's not backed by anything and selling that money to banks, inflating the worth of useless money? You think Obama is going to say, printing money not backed by anything or just making it up out of thin air is illegal?

4. Universal Health Care - These doctors are making a killing with these phony HMO's. Do you think that the doctors or anyone wants to go to a universal health care system in which the quality of services coming from the doctor might be bad? In the inner cities, which was the testing ground, there has been that kind of system in place for years and the results are stunningly bad. Get a card from WIC, the hospital system, and for certain things, get it cared for and the cost goes to the taxpayer. The Doctor get's triple the payment of money from the government and sometimes it's shoddy work. Obama will take that program model and try to ensure that every state has a working model that has no quality at all. Universal Health care plans will die out fast and we'll still have people that can't get access to anything.

5. The People - Americans have become lazy, incoherent, unable to concentrate and have lost respect for themselves and struggle with creativity and having a work ethic. Obama is going to seize that and say that the government will take care of you. Under anyone that gets in the White House, you can kiss the last of your parental rights goodbye. They are trying to make your children property of the State.

6. Jobs - The mantra should be "create more small business opportunities for the lower and middle class" but for some reason, there is someone pulling the levers that don't like that idea because it breeds "competition". Jobs, Baby, Jobs?" What about "Ownership baby! Ownership". And I thought that Al Davis was on crack. There will be a scarcity of jobs in the coming future. No one is talking OWNERSHIP and control of their personal future but are instead given some bogus tools to keep them in bondage.

Obama can't promise you jobs because corporations tell him what to do. It's not the other way around.


America needs a makeover and it doesn't start with a politician.

In Alaska, "no" means "maybe." (http://www.ruralwomyn.net/rape_rural.html)

I think you're wrong but hopefully we won't find out. 

Which will incite them to flush more money through a failing system.  We'll up around $20,000 per year per child by 2012


That date is already being specifically discussed but no doubt the man in charge when it happens will get credit.


I'm not seeing this.  I suppose if it totally tanks "Great Depression" style first then it's possible.


And?  What about liberal mainstream media? 


Not seeing this either.  I can see Bush being given more responsibility for problems during an Obama presidency than Obama himself.

You make it sound like it's okay for public schools to teach liberalism over the core subjects?  You zoomed through radical and are quickly approaching fanatical. 

Who HASN'T pushed for that over the past 20-30 years?  Only the Palestinian leadership because they realize that once they get a homeland then they have less to constantly bitch about.  Arab-Israeli peace was one of Yassar Arafat's biggest fears!  He knew his power was based on the ongoing conflict.

  Brings me down & makes me want to cry.

I see nothing positive coming out of Obama becoming Pres.    Actually the thought is terrifying. 

BTW I did not snipe.  I agreed with some.

  Not in California.   They took that away from parents.  You have to have a teaching certificate to do it now.

Private schools would be great, if you did not have to pay twice for your child's schooling.

HAHAHA. Tillman was hardly the first soldier to say that we were and still are protecting contractors. He was a dumbass. He was in a spec ops unit, and you keep your mouth shut and do not talk bad about them while you are still part of them or you might pay. Plus he was completely on Chomsky's dick
We are going to pull out, but both sides know it will be over time. This has been discussed before.

As usual, your information is much different than that the rest of us are privy to. 

There's too much hate and envy here to just call this "Tommyesque".  Congrats, you've reached Buddhaesque!

You realize he's ex-military?


Don't be bringing my name into this, douchebag.

Boohoo. You had kids. You want them brought up a certain way, then pay up.

Edited for typo.

What no comments about my hangover?

I am tired of the paying twice crap arguement.  I don't have children, I pay taxes to support the school system too.  My taxes go to support the public school system.  Just like my taxes go to support the police.  If you want to hire a private security guard that is fine, but don't expect a refund gift "because you are paying for police twice."  Or if you are too lazy to bring your trash cans to curb for trash collection so you hire a private company to take them from out back. 

 

That pretty much says it right there, You don't have any children , so you don't know what its like to have a human being depend on YOU for whats best for them.  Your argument doesn't hold any water because If your Trash doesn't get put out it won't effect a child's life Forever. Your rationals towards a proper education are quite scary. Maybe that's why so many New Englanders that I meet come to Florida for a better life for their Kids.  You get tired of so many Arguments , yet you have absolutely no stake in any of them either. Give it a break already.

I know you're not comparing schools right? I moved to Florida from MA just before my sophomore year of high school. My sisters were in the 4th and 6th grades.

All 3 of us were doing work that first year that we had already done or had. The schools that we attended in MA were far ahead of where we were when we got down here

Right, so if YOU don't think the public schools are getting the job done. Isn't it up to YOU to put your kid in a private school, or homeschool them?

If I were to have children, there is no way in hell they'd go to a public school. I wouldn't want my kids being taught that it's ok to eat carcass and that some guy runs around sneaking into their home giving out gifts.

Things in my county have changed dramatically over the last decade. One of our Magnet schools is in the Top ten in the country now . We still have a few of the schools lacking here and there but overall they have really upped the ante because they are trying to attract more business and residence into the area.

So that won't happen when they leave your protected bubble and go out into the real world? Better you teach them as they interact with others so they can define right from wrong . Give them the tools necessary to be bright responsible , healthy adults and they will be way better off then protected anti social people who don't have a clue. 

That also varies greatly from school to school within a state.  We moved 40 miles within Mass (in large part because the schools were better) and I was a year behind.

I also taught for three years in a private high school.  I thought it was bit behind what I had learned.  So I showed what I was teaching my 9th graders to my younger sister, and her response was, "we did that two years ago"

Hate for what? Envy of what? The guy had a big mouth and shot it off at the wrong time and in the wrong place. There are many people currently on active status who think it was not the true "accident" it was made out to be. He is getting credit for something he was not the first to do. He was far from the first member of the military to complain about us having to protect overpaid contractors who are profiting off the war.

Isn't this the same thing most of the christians are whining about? They don't want their children being taught certain things because it goes against their values and morals?

Interesting...

  Spoken like someone who does not know the cost of raising children.

Actually, I do know the cost of raising children. That's also part of the reason I choose not to have any. Did you not look into the cost of raising children before you decided to have them? Did you not factor in that you might have to pay for their schooling if you find public schools not to be appropriate?

 Wait a minute.  Could you be anymore of a hypocrite?

You are an out spoken supporter of the political idea of the Gov using its police power in taking the hard earn money of citizens who actual earn it, to give it to people who do not earn it, but when someone who works says they cannot afford to pay twice for school then you get all up in arms over it.

What a dang hypocrite you are.

Sorry, my bad.  You're not a hypocrite..  Its not going to be your hard earn money they are taking to give to these people.  Its the other guys money.

  You had better have a high paying job or if you get married then your husband have one.  Private schools are not cheap & neither is having only one income.

I will tell my children when they start to teach some things I do not think they should to just pass the test and forget about what was told to them.  That is all Gov & PC Bulls--t.

There have been 4 plots broken up that I have heard of in the media. 

I don't believe my tax dollars should fund two school systems.  If the city has a soup kitchen and the person who goes there doesn't like the taste of the food there, the city shouldn't pay for that person to go to a restaurant where they like the the food better.

What you are demanding for is the equivalent of the person who doesn't like the food at the soup kitchen is asking for a meal at a restaurant.

My tax dollars pay for a schools system.  Use it or don't use it, but don't expect me to pay for you to send your child to a different school system.

My tax dollars pay (in part) for public buses.  Ride them if you want.  But if you don't want to ride them don't expect me to fund your taxi ride.

My tax dollars pay for public pools and parks.  Use them if you want.  But don't ask me to subsidize your private pool or pay someone to mow your lawn.  Or your membership in a private country club. 


 

Shouldn't this be the case regardless? That you actually have children that you can afford? This is why you're supposed to put some thought and planning into having children. Since I don't think public schools are acceptable, that is one of the things that I would need to think about PRIOR to having children.

If you truly feel that your kids aren't getting a good education, or do not like what they are being taught the pull them out of the schools. Period.

I do not either.  All I would like would be a voucher for my taxes that goes to public schools, to help off set the cost of private schools.


Are you seriously using an analogy of a homeless person to a working tax paying citizen?

Do I need to point out the difference here? 


Why not?  You love the idea others paying higher taxes to give to people who have not earned it.

Why are you so against using money that would come out of your wallet?

BTW, not asking you to pay.  Just saying I should not have to pay twice.


When you can come up with an analogy that actually applies then use it.  Until then, these analogies do not.

No one is forcing a person to use a soup kitchen, ride a bus, go to the park.  However, don't take a kid to school & lets see what happens.

I promise. If you wait till you think you can afford a child, then you will never have a child, unless you get Gov support for having babies ( Welfare )

  Its a matter of dollars & cents.   I cannot afford the cost of a private school & the cost of providing them with quality food.   I simply put the time in with my kids to discuss what they are teaching & work with them on other things to make sure they are ahead of their classmates.

I sat in the floor last night for about an hour doing math with my soon to be 7 Yr. old.  I had purchased a second grade math book ( He is in 1st ) so he will progress at a better rate.

Do you think this is because NO ONE that has ever had a child could afford them? Bullshit.


Then stop your whining. You made a choice.

The evil rich probably have the money.  However, if the avg. person waits till they think they can afford a child, then you will never have one.


  Wait a min.  Just because I do not like the set up, its whining?

Since when is asking for change considered whining?   I thought that is what this election was about.  Change. 

You amaze me with your hypocrisy.

When its something you do not like, then that's fine, but when it something someone else does not like its whining.

No no no...You have to realize its only change when a Democrat thinks of it!  ;)

This thought runs along the same lines of, "I have no money. I want a tv. I'll charge the tv and worry about how to pay for it later."

And, I'm sure some of the welfare recipients you WHINE about think along the same lines.

BS. Everyone calls liberals whiny. And?

Didn't know I was a Christian.  I'll have to let my Rabbi know........... ::)


But you avoided the question ............again.......... ::)

Defense, you're a Jew?

I don't know why, but I never pictured you as a Jew, unless you were just kidding.

If Obama is elected, I predict that Dave Gray will agree with me more after 2 years of an Obama presidency.

 ;)

Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, heal'd by the same means, warm'd and cool'd by the same winter and summer as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. 

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I think there is the same stereotypes that all Jews think certain way just like the stereotype that blacks all think alike and being Defense's political views don't always conform to your stereotype of Jewish political thought you assumed he could not be a Jew. 

Or maybe it is because he is a cop.  And ALL Jews are doctors or lawyers and there are absolutely no Jewish cops. 

I never said you were christian. I was making an example.

There are numerous ways to make sure a child is socialized. Going to a public school isn't the only way. Private school can do the same thing, as well as having your child in extra-cirricular activities and community involvement.

How about just one school system that focuses on basic education and leaves the political correctness for the private schools?  


Where I live the transit system as over 20x the funding per rider (3% of the commutes but over 60% of the funding).  We support buses because they're flexible.  However, every year, without fail, they try to force light rail to nowhere down our throats.  Of course, the nice neighborhoods have too much influence to allow light rail in so it's proposed to go down the middle of the street through the most crime ridden neighborhoods.   Based on LA's system, about 15 people will be hit by the train each year.


Not a lot of politics being taught at pools and parks.  If there is a problem the police are in charge, not some liberal administrator.

 
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Hardly.  Obviously you have no concept of the cost of children.  Its not a couple of thousand dollars.

Nope, welfare recipients get more money for having babies, slightly different than actually paying for them.

Everyone?  Never have I.  Nor have I ever called a liberal Unpatriotic.

Actually, I have seen the staggering numbers. What would make you think I haven't? Just because I don't have any? That's part of the reason I don't have any. I can't afford to raise them the way I would want to.

So do you just blindly go in having children hoping that the numbers somehow work themselves out? If you can't afford to raise your children the way you want them raised, then why did you have them? Why should the public have to subsidize for you to put your children into the school you want?

The way you speak about it would tend to lead someone to think that way.

Very few actually can.

  No, but as I have said.  If you wait till you have an extra million bucks laying around to raise a child, then you will never have any.

Very few raise a child the way they truly want to.  I'd love for me & my wife to both be here 24/7 with them.  However, I pay my bills & do not depend on a politician to raise taxes on others to pay them for me.

Quick question.  You are all for raising taxes on people to provide for others.

How would you like it this tax increase.  Some politicians decides that they want to raise the taxes on childless people & give more of a tax break to people with kids.

Would you be for that?


Not asking for public to subsidize me..  I'm asking for my part back, no one elses.

I can handle the difference.

I've never said that I'm for or against taxes. I'm quite indifferent on taxes. I vote based on totally different things. I see taxes as the cost of doing business.



Great, can I have my part back too?

Yep. My Mom Is 100% off the boat Brooklyn Italian . Met My dad and converted in 1960 to Judaism.  In the Jewish religion you are the same religon as your mother so........I'm a Jew Whop.   ;D 

Can we call you Franco?  Can you carry the rock and talk smack with Jim Brown?  I don't think he was Jewish though.

So why should your "cost of business" go to pay for anything other than business...like public schooling, welfare, climate change research, etc? What does that have to do with doing business?

  I believe you have said that you are for a tax increase on the richer people of America. 
  Nope, yours is being used for the greater good.

You do understand that's just a figure of speech, right? 

No. I say that if we're going to increase someones it might as well be them. However, I don't sit here bellyaching about who pays what. Appsarently, it's all you worry about.  

So is yours, so stop your whining.
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Of course you want taxes raised on them..  You want someone else to pay for what you want & believe in.

Why do I get the feeling you preach helping others, but donate little time or money to charity.

Of course you don't.   You already want someone else paying for how you believe.  Plus, you just sit around hating people, while preaching about how ignorant bigotry is.

Its not all I concern myself with, but I see the writing on the wall with this stuff also.

The tax system should not be used to buy votes.

  Mine is going to help educate my children, since I have kids in school

Funny, you are all for helping others until someone ask for help, then you start preaching about whining & how they made their choice. 

However, you total ignore that the people you think deserve money made by others is right.

How far does your hypocrisy go?

Shows what a fool you are. Everyone knows that the only thing I truly care about are pandas.

^^^ Speciesist!   What do you have against polar, grizzly, black and brown bears.  Only the panda style.  Geez, and I thought you were open minded and now I learn you are a Speciesist!

I am shocked and disgusted. 

 ;D

Indeed!  I actually give to WWF and that other animal group that everyone hates, so I think all of the bears are covered.  ;D

^^^^ you give to the world wrestling federation   ???    ;D

 :)

It's widely known that all bears are evil...and that all bears are republican.

You bunch of fucking Hypocrites!!? What about all the salmon and baby seal that polar bears eat on a daily basis?

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 ;)
 

The data suggests otherwise, Illinois tends to vote democratic, Chicago in particular.   And that is the state and city with the largest concentration of "Bears" and their "cubs."