Title: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Defense54 on November 02, 2008, 10:02:39 am http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_AUNT?SITE=FLSTU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
CHICAGO (AP) -- Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday he didn't know his aunt was living in the United States illegally and believes that laws covering the situation should be followed. The Associated Press found that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. The woman, Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father. Nice. How many other skeltons does this guy have in his closet? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on November 02, 2008, 10:03:46 am So what?? This is the same as his association with Bill Ayers and Sarah Palin's association with that convicted felon Senator from Alaska...... not going to have much of an impact on the outcome.
Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Defense54 on November 02, 2008, 10:04:33 am Quote The campaign said it was returning $260 that Onyango had contributed in small increments to Obama's presidential bid over several months. Federal election law prohibits foreigners from making political donations. Onyango listed her employer as the Boston Housing Authority and last gave $5 on Sept. 19. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 02, 2008, 10:05:26 am Yawn. For me this is the same as Joe McCain's 911 call.
Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Defense54 on November 02, 2008, 10:08:24 am So what?? This is the same as his association with Bill Ayers and Sarah Palin's association with that convicted felon Senator from Alaska...... not going to have much of an impact on the outcome. I remember reading comparisons from him to JFK. I don't think any of JFK's relatives were here in this country illegally . One of my pet Peeves is getting The southern border of this country shored up. How can Barrack Obama do that effectively when his own family is here illegally? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Defense54 on November 02, 2008, 10:09:19 am Yawn. For me this is the same as Joe McCain's 911 call. How does that effect decisions McCain might make in office? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Defense54 on November 02, 2008, 10:17:02 am This is the kind of Liberal shit that pisses me off:
Quote In Boston, Lydia Agro, communications director for the Housing Authority, said Onyango had been screened and approved for public housing as an "eligible non-citizen" when she moved in in 2003. She said the authority is not notified of deportation orders and did not know Onyango was related to Obama until two days ago. Agro said the authority doesn't believe it needs to take any action. We have People homeless in this country that have lived and payed taxes all their lives , but they approved a eligible NON Citizen!? They are gonna raise Taxes to pay for more of this shit? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Brian Fein on November 03, 2008, 09:26:20 am you're looking for reasons to hate Obama? What does this have to do with his ability to run the country.
He said: "believes that laws covering the situation should be followed." He's having his aunt deported? And you are worried about what? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 03, 2008, 09:42:33 am How does that effect decisions McCain might make in office? Both have a relative that violated the law. Obama has stated that he would enforce the laws of the country and if that means his aunt gets deported then his aunt will be deported. The LAW comes first. I can't find if McCain has been asked or has stated that he supports the prosecution of his brother for his criminal activity or if he would interfere with the process. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Dave Gray on November 03, 2008, 10:57:27 am The president doesn't personally kick people out of the country. Besides, the President can do whatever they want. If he wants to get a permanent Visa for his Aunt, it wouldn't be an issue. It's not like he's going to change immigration policy to open the border up so his Aunt can live here.
Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: pintofguinness14 on November 03, 2008, 01:08:02 pm This is irrelevant. Even if Obama had been aware of his aunt's illegal status (and I doubt this he hardly new his father, let alone his father's sister), how would it be his responsibility to see her deported? DHS/CIS clearly had her on their books and her case was working its way through the legal process for addressing these cases.
We have People homeless in this country that have lived and payed taxes all their lives , but they approved a eligible NON Citizen!? They are gonna raise Taxes to pay for more of this shit? I really loved that bit from Defense5499. Tell me, exactly how homeless people do you know and of that number, how many of them have been paying income tax? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 03, 2008, 01:22:11 pm I really loved that bit from Defense5499. Tell me, exactly how homeless people do you know and of that number, how many of them have been paying income tax? Many of the homeless are employed. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: pintofguinness14 on November 03, 2008, 01:39:04 pm Many of the homeless are employed. So the argument is that they pay their federal income tax but then never file a return in order to get their refund? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 03, 2008, 02:26:48 pm So the argument is that they pay their federal income tax but then never file a return in order to get their refund? Believe it or not that occurs. Hard to collect a refund if you don't have an address to get mail. Although somewhat rare. Also you have people who paid taxes their entire life and then due to misfortune wind up in poverty. Uninsured medical bills can do that. I think that may have been what the OP was driving at. Also a significant portion of the population has paid the most significant tax of all, Vets are a disproportionate number of the homeless. (and I am not talking about the type of vet Stl fin fan is either) The OP is somewhat misguided in the complaint, illegal aliens also pay taxes. They almost never file for a refund of withheld taxes as to do so would increase their likelihood of deportation. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: pintofguinness14 on November 03, 2008, 02:43:43 pm Believe it or not that occurs. Hard to collect a refund if you don't have an address to get mail. Although somewhat rare. Also you have people who paid taxes their entire life and then due to misfortune wind up in poverty. Uninsured medical bills can do that. I think that may have been what the OP was driving at. Also a significant portion of the population has paid the most significant tax of all, Vets are a disproportionate number of the homeless. (and I am not talking about the type of vet Stl fin fan is either) The OP is somewhat misguided in the complaint, illegal aliens also pay taxes. They almost never file for a refund of withheld taxes as to do so would increase their likelihood of deportation. I agree with you on all counts. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Defense54 on November 03, 2008, 10:17:32 pm Quote I really loved that bit from Defense5499. Tell me, exactly how homeless people do you know and of that number, how many of them have been paying income tax? I know alot actually. I deal with them on a daily basis. Some are really sick and its sad. Others are just lazy Mofo's who live off others. I'd like a president that makes it harder for them to get free shit then a president that would make it easier . I just hope his "personal" experience doesn't cloud his judgement of what the big picture and what needs to be done. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 03, 2008, 10:31:13 pm I know alot actually. I deal with them on a daily basis. Some are really sick and its sad. Others are just lazy Mofo's who live off others. I'd like a president that makes it harder for them to get free shit then a president that would make it easier . I just hope his "personal" experience doesn't cloud his judgement of what the big picture and what needs to be done. Everyones personal experience effects their judgment. Whether that personal experience was as POW, having family deported, or being on the board of Haliburton. But Obama is not interested in expanding minorities dependence on a the government, but moving people from welfare to a productive citizens. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Dphins4me on November 03, 2008, 10:33:04 pm Obama campaign is returning her campaign contributions
If Obama's own aunt, who is an illegal alien, was able to donate to the Obama campaign ... how many other illegal contributions have been made and yet to be vetted? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Dphins4me on November 03, 2008, 10:33:55 pm But Obama is not interested in expanding minorities dependence on a the government, but moving people from welfare to a productive citizens. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: pintofguinness14 on November 03, 2008, 10:35:19 pm Obama campaign is returning her campaign contributions If Obama's own aunt, who is an illegal alien, was able to donate to the Obama campaign ... how many other illegal contributions have been made and yet to be vetted? Do you honestly think a tidal wave of illegal immigrant donations is responsible for Obama's success in fund raising? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Dphins4me on November 03, 2008, 10:37:54 pm Do you honestly think a tidal wave of illegal immigrant donations is responsible for Obama's success in fund raising? No, but shouldn't you be a little bit interested.Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: pintofguinness14 on November 03, 2008, 10:41:34 pm No, but shouldn't you be a little bit interested. Of course I'm interested, but not very much. I'm sure both campaign have received small donations that might not be allowable under the current campaign finance regulations. There's simply no way for either campaign to vet every tiny donation in advance. When something comes up after the fact, they send the money back. It's not a big deal. Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: run_to_win on November 04, 2008, 12:16:26 pm But Obama is not interested in expanding minorities dependence on a the government, but moving people from welfare to a productive citizens. What has he ever done to move people in that direction? Title: Re: Obama might have legal status........but his Aunt does Not: Post by: Defense54 on November 04, 2008, 12:21:23 pm What has he ever done to move people in that direction? Right!? |