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Title: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: raptorsfan29 on December 05, 2008, 02:07:52 pm
just throwing this out there. It's been almost a season without our two best defensive men for the past 10 years.

I think i am over it, but one has to wonder, where would we be with these two on our team now, how many defensive breakdowns would we have had?


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 05, 2008, 03:19:55 pm
I miss Thomas a little...Taylor was turning into a diva so I don't miss him much...he would have been awesome as our other OLB though with all the weight he lost in the offseason


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Dave Gray on December 05, 2008, 04:12:48 pm
I actually miss Taylor more than Thomas, though I liked Thomas better as a player.

Taylor is missed because we lack pressure.  Thomas brought a lot of tackles, but that slack has been picked up.  I imagine that having a healthy Taylor, plus the kind of production we're getting from Porter, would change the game a lot.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: DolFan619 on December 05, 2008, 04:28:20 pm
  I don't miss Jason Taylor AT ALL.  He was becoming such a diva in his final days as a Dolphin, he had to go.  Zach, I miss a little bit.  When Zach was let go in the offseason, I thought it would be weird not seeing #54 on the field, but to be honest, when I watch a lot of games I really don't think about it.  As the times change, so do the players.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: fyo on December 05, 2008, 05:37:12 pm
I'm with Dave on this one; I miss JT the most.

And all the diva-stuff, well, IMHO, 90% of that shit is just media-made. (That goes for all players, not just JT).


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: stinkfish on December 05, 2008, 05:59:16 pm
Who?


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: bsfins on December 05, 2008, 05:59:23 pm
Nope, Not really....If they were both having great seasons,maybe...I've barely heard a peep out of either of them....


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: SCFinfan on December 05, 2008, 08:59:51 pm
I don't really miss them. They were some of my favorites while here, but now that they're gone, I don't really care all that much.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Defense54 on December 05, 2008, 11:02:53 pm
Thomas will go down as my 2nd favorite Dolphin of alltime. I really hope he retires a Dolphin eventually........... :'(


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Doc-phin on December 06, 2008, 10:19:21 am
I miss Thomas, although I think it is best that he is not on the team this year.  I liked JT, but I never really liked the way he interviewed.  He always came to play, which I appreciate, but I am not so sure he was all that good for the other players.  Mostly, I think his enthusiasm sucked but he could always be counted on to do HIS job.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Kid Dynamite on December 06, 2008, 11:22:46 am
My opinion wont be popular on this board but I am glad they are gone.

Zach Thomas was a beast but he was aging and starting to break down. Its amazing to me that he has lasted this long. He was also making a lot of money.

I am not sad about JT one bit. He was a diva and making a lot of money while spouting his mouth about leaving the NFl to become a star. He was also making a ton of money.

Sporano and Parecells did everything they could to change the culture of this team. By getting rid of JT and Thomas they saved a ton of money for the future while cutting off the two leaders from the old regime.

Now Sporano and Parcells can plant new seeds.

Bottom line, the team is winning again.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Frimp on December 06, 2008, 12:01:17 pm
Thomas will go down as my 2nd favorite Dolphin of alltime. I really hope he retires a Dolphin eventually........... :'(

He'll likely do one of those one day contracts to retire as a Dolphin. His name will go up on the ring of honor too. Taylor, I'm not so sure about.

I miss Thomas to a certain degree. I'll feel kind of bad if we finish with a better record than the Cowboys, or make the playoffs while the Cowboys don't.  Then, I'll get over it, and look forward to him signing that one day contract, and hope I'm at the game where he gets on the ROH.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Tepop84 on December 06, 2008, 05:15:34 pm
Taylor was a lot better than Thomas.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 07, 2008, 10:15:14 pm
I'm not sure if we kept Jason Taylor he'd have double digit sacks right now.  I miss Zach Thomas particularly when I see a running back break through the line and yeah I followed Zach and JT closely over the last few years.  I'm old enough that I remember watching John Offerdahl at full health.  At the same time, it's not the same as it was years and years ago.  Players come and go.  That's all there is to it now.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: NADS on December 08, 2008, 10:08:23 am

Taylor is missed because we lack pressure.  Thomas brought a lot of tackles, but that slack has been picked up.  I imagine that having a healthy Taylor, plus the kind of production we're getting from Porter, would change the game a lot.

I miss them both because they were Dolphins for so long but production and price become an issue.  JP replaces JT but I'd have to disagree with the comment about Thomas.  Yeremiah Bell still leads the team in tackles.  Sad.  Zach has 85 for Dallas (2nd behind Brady James at 92).  Akin Ayodele has 58 tackles and where is SB winner Reggie Torbor?  Torbor is the D version of Ernest Wilford.  If Thomas Jones rolls us the last game of the year, I think we'll all be missing Zach Thomas.   


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: FinFan54 on December 08, 2008, 12:53:03 pm
I live in DC area and the Skins fans are extremely down on Taylor.  They're talking about what a bust the trade was on their end.  Taylor has 1 sack and about 22 tackles.  Looks like the Tuna knows when to hold and when to fold...


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: StL FinFan on December 08, 2008, 12:55:31 pm
They will always be remembered among the great Dolphins.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Thundergod on December 08, 2008, 01:06:14 pm
About Taylor and his 1 sack, isn't that what happens when you miss games due to an injury?

About missing 'em, it sucks, sure, but it's all good if we get better for it. Wannstache wasted their talent, but it was a treat watching 'em here.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: bling49 on December 10, 2008, 01:47:00 pm
I sure do miss them both.
I think they would make our defense better, especially Thomas and his leadership.

Who is Miami's defensive leader in 2008?

Joey Porter?

He's having a great year but I don't think being mouthy equates to leadership. Maybe by his play on the field you could say he leads through example?

Crowder?

He's having a pretty good year too but he's not really leading this defense thru words or actions.

Ray Lewis and Zach are the kind of players defenses will follow. Players learn from them in preseason and in practice and then by their field presence and actions on Sundays.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: dolfan13 on December 10, 2008, 06:14:38 pm
love zach, one of my favorite players of all time, but...

how ironic these guys wanted to be a part of a playoff contending team again, and turns out that team would be the dolphins  ;D


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Defense54 on December 10, 2008, 09:42:21 pm
I live in DC area and the Skins fans are extremely down on Taylor.  They're talking about what a bust the trade was on their end.  Taylor has 1 sack and about 22 tackles.  Looks like the Tuna knows when to hold and when to fold...

Miami made out BIGTIME. 2nd rounder for his dancing hollywood bound ass. I still miss Zack though. He only had a 1 year contact with Dallas. Now that Miami is on the upside maybe we can lure him back for some depth.  :-\


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: NADS on December 11, 2008, 08:30:19 am
I think he'd still start in Miami.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 11, 2008, 08:39:29 am
I live in DC area and the Skins fans are extremely down on Taylor.  They're talking about what a bust the trade was on their end.  Taylor has 1 sack and about 22 tackles.  Looks like the Tuna knows when to hold and when to fold...

Depending on how that second round pick turns out, looks like Tuna played the Redskins for a sucker.  Kinda like when we gave a second rounder to the Vikings for Daunte.

Oh, we also have their sixth rounder in 2010.


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: Defense54 on December 11, 2008, 02:19:38 pm
I think Taylor has alot left to give..........he just wants to do other things with that pretty face. Redskins were hoping to make a run at the SB this year or next and took a gamble.  We finally made out.  >:D


Title: Re: Does anyone still miss Taylor and Thomas
Post by: dolfan13 on December 11, 2008, 04:22:26 pm
its funny how when you get the right people making football decisions, more things start to go good for you than bad  ;D

there's always a certain amount of luck involved, but it is interesting how some folks seem to always have a little bit better luck than the rest of them.