Title: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: StL FinFan on December 16, 2008, 04:29:45 pm There is a poll on Page 2 of espn.com and it is nearly 50-50! :o IMO, 1-15 will be forgotten but 0-16 is forever. What do you guys think of this?
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Tepop84 on December 16, 2008, 04:30:55 pm Is 1-15 really forgotten?
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Frimp on December 16, 2008, 04:35:21 pm Forgotten? I don't know. I'm sure the Patriots, Jets, and Panthers fans have forgotten theirs. Ours will go away soon enough
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Brian Fein on December 16, 2008, 04:51:19 pm you forgot the Cowboys.
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Frimp on December 16, 2008, 05:02:33 pm ^^^
Yeah, them too. ;D Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 16, 2008, 09:57:19 pm The pain of last year is gone with this year's results. 0-16.... let's see what the Lions do.
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Thundergod on December 17, 2008, 02:03:52 am To be the only team in history to go winless in a 16 game schedule, oh yeah, forever.
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: NADS on December 17, 2008, 03:36:07 am Forever ever.
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 20, 2008, 02:01:20 am 1-15 will get you some bad jokes from sportscasters and maybe late night tv. 0-16 is not only history, but just imagine all the times they're going to show up on NFL films. They'll have to do a show on NFL network who was worse 76 Bucs or 08 Lions.
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 20, 2008, 08:11:57 am 1-15 will get you some bad jokes from sportscasters and maybe late night tv. 0-16 is not only history, but just imagine all the times they're going to show up on NFL films. They'll have to do a show on NFL network who was worse 76 Bucs or 08 Lions. Don't count the Lions in just yet. They've got New Orleans this week, who is eliminated from the playoffs, without Reggie Bush, and may very well coast the rest of the season. Next week they have Green Bay, who has been a major dissapointment. In the immortal words of Yogi Berra.... "It aint over till it's over" Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Tenshot13 on December 20, 2008, 11:51:49 am Don't count the Lions in just yet. They've got New Orleans this week, who is eliminated from the playoffs, without Reggie Bush, and may very well coast the rest of the season. Next week they have Green Bay, who has been a major dissapointment. In the immortal words of Yogi Berra.... "It aint over till it's over" They do have New Orleans w/o Bush, but Pierre Thomas (8 TDs in only 4 starts...4.7 ypc) has really stepped it up and is more of a factor to that team than Reggie was, plus a dangerous QB and WR...Detroit has....Calvin Johnson and Kevin Smith (who has surprised me this year...he may be their franchise RB of the future...at least something for them to build on)...I don't see the Lions winning this game though. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 20, 2008, 12:26:54 pm They do have New Orleans w/o Bush, but Pierre Thomas (8 TDs in only 4 starts...4.7 ypc) has really stepped it up and is more of a factor to that team than Reggie was, plus a dangerous QB and WR...Detroit has....Calvin Johnson and Kevin Smith (who has surprised me this year...he may be their franchise RB of the future...at least something for them to build on)...I don't see the Lions winning this game though. I didn't think the Dolphins would beat the Ravens. The team that up to that point in the season had given the Patriots their toughest competition. Ya never know what could happen. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Tenshot13 on December 20, 2008, 12:55:08 pm I didn't think the Dolphins would beat the Ravens. The team that up to that point in the season had given the Patriots their toughest competition. Ya never know what could happen. Yeah your right...like I said, Kevin Smith has been pretty solid for them all year, and if he has a big game, watch for Johnson to have a big game too...the Saints do have a pretty weak defense so ya anything could happen...I just don't think it's likely. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Sunstroke on December 20, 2008, 01:19:35 pm Yeah your right...like I said, Kevin Smith has been pretty solid for them all year, and if he has a big game, watch for Johnson to have a big game too...the Saints do have a pretty weak defense so ya anything could happen...I just don't think it's likely. Quality Detroit Lions smack... I drafted Calvin and Kevin in a lot of drafts this year...Calvin in the 4th-5th round range and Kevin Smith a good bit later. During one draft, after selecting both of them, one of my friends said "According to fantasy law, any FFL squad with two Detroit Lions on its roster can finish no higher than 6th place." I loved that... Side note: My Redzone Freakfest squad that is two wins away from back to back TDMMC titles starts both Calvin and Kevin every week. My opinion on Calvin has been pretty open on these boards...I think he is an elite WR and, talent-wise, arguably the best WR to enter the NFL since Randy Moss in '98. Kevin Smith, while not the most physically talented RB in the game, has enough talent, and displayed enough "I can run against anyone" cajones during his monster senior season at Central Florida that I thought he could have some success at the NFL level as well. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: JVides on December 21, 2008, 10:04:19 pm To be the only team in history to go winless in a 16 game schedule, oh yeah, forever. If 17-0 can live on forever, then certainly 0-16 will, too. You can recover from it, of course. The Lions will someday be an elite team again. But it will always be remembered, and 40 years from now, whenever a team starts 0-6 or 0-7, the footage will come up talking about the 2008 Lions. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Frimp on December 21, 2008, 10:40:44 pm If 17-0 can live on forever, then certainly 0-16 will, too. You can recover from it, of course. The Lions will someday be an elite team again. But it will always be remembered, and 40 years from now, whenever a team starts 0-6 or 0-7, the footage will come up talking about the 2008 Lions. Again? ;D Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: JVides on December 21, 2008, 11:07:26 pm ^^^^^ Hmmm...good point.
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 21, 2008, 11:18:12 pm Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 22, 2008, 12:17:50 am Don't count them out for good. They got rid of Matt Millen, and Rod Marinelli is definitely a goner if this team loses to Green Bay next week..... probably gone even if they win.
But if they can find a Coach/GM/VP- Football Operations as capable as ours, they might be back sooner than you think. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: NADS on December 23, 2008, 08:11:45 pm C'mon now, the Lions were kicking ass and taking names in 1932!
I still say they should move back to Portsmouth or be the new team in LA. Everyone else will be leaving Detroit so why not the Lions? Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 24, 2008, 12:26:29 am The problem isn't so much the Lions being worse as it is Coach McKay cracking all those jokes about his own team. That's what lives on in the highlights. His attitude was kind of like look we suck these guys are terrible it's going to be this way for a little while what the fuck do you want me to do?
Marinelli is all serious and sad about it all the time, and he looks so embattled it kind of takes the fun out of it. If he cracked a few jokes about the whole thing it might not be so bad. The press asks him questions about it and you can see in his eyes he wants to snap and choke the reporter but he hasn't yet. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 24, 2008, 05:23:37 am The Lions are reportedly interested in Randy Mueller. He wasn't the best GM, but he unfairly takes the blame for everything that went wrong. He would be a good start for the Lions.
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 24, 2008, 08:48:53 am C'mon now, the Lions were kicking ass and taking names in 1932! No they weren't, they only won half their games that season 6-2-4. (Good thing McNabb wasn't around 4 ties, he would be real confused) Maybe you were thinking of 1931, when they went 11-3. But they still fell short of the Greenbay Packers. Or 1935 when they won the championship. They repeated again in 1953 and 57. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: NADS on December 28, 2008, 11:16:36 am Yea, 1931. That the first year in Detroit?
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 28, 2008, 11:24:45 am ^^^ no, in '31 they were still Portsmouth Spartans.
In '34 they moved to Detroit and went 10-3 but didn't make the playoffs, the 13-0 Bears won the division and then lost to the Giants. (The '72 Dolphins owe several Giants teams a debt of gratitude) Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 28, 2008, 08:56:41 pm The Lions are reportedly interested in Randy Mueller. He wasn't the best GM, but he unfairly takes the blame for everything that went wrong. He would be a good start for the Lions. That would be a good fit for him. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: NADS on December 30, 2008, 09:02:42 pm ^^^ no, in '31 they were still Portsmouth Spartans. In '34 they moved to Detroit and went 10-3 but didn't make the playoffs, the 13-0 Bears won the division and then lost to the Giants. (The '72 Dolphins owe several Giants teams a debt of gratitude) I'll have to look it up and figure out what I was trying to say. I thought the Lions won a championship their first year in Detroit. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 30, 2008, 10:09:46 pm I'll have to look it up and figure out what I was trying to say. I thought the Lions won a championship their first year in Detroit. not according to http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/det/ lions won a championship their second year in detriot. Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 31, 2008, 11:41:33 am They did make it to the NFC Title game in 1991.... but Washington was unstoppable that year.
Title: Re: 1-15 vs 0-16 Post by: Fred Finstoned on January 01, 2009, 07:36:33 am Hey lets not forget 1968 when Alan Alda played for them!! ;D ;D
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