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Title: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 22, 2008, 01:14:10 pm
Granted my vote (if I had it) would be conditioned the Dolphins winning this week and could be swayed by Chargers win if Rivers has a big game in win over Denver.

But I am leaning towards.......Chad Pennington. 

This is the list of QB that have thrown more ints than Chad:

Brett Favre 
Drew Brees
Jay Cutler
Gus Frerotte
Ben Roethlisberger
Marc Bulger
Tony Romo
Kurt Warner
Jake Delhomme
Joe Flacco
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Tyler Thigpen
Matt Cassel
David Garrard
Donovan McNabb
J.T. O'Sullivan
Philip Rivers
Trent Edwards
Eli Manning
Kyle Orton
Matt Schaub
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Matt Ryan
Derek Anderson

Other than Chad who did the Dolphins add to the roster between a horrid 1-15 and a very respectable 11-5.

Many say Manning is the favorite.  Chad has a better completion rate and who is Chad's receiving core?  How about Mannings?  It ain't even close.

Much was made of the struggles Farve had learning the Jets offense.  Chad also joined training camp late in fact he became a Dolphin 2 days after Brett became a jet.  Yet he had not problem mastering the new offense. 

I doubt he will get it, but he deserves it. 



Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Rick on December 22, 2008, 01:32:19 pm
no one deserves the 2008 NFL MVP more than Chad Pennington... he SHOULD win this award.



Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Brian Fein on December 22, 2008, 02:10:18 pm
I think he deserves consideration but I don't think he WILL win, because he's not a sexy name, and he doesn't play for a sexy team. 


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: StL FinFan on December 22, 2008, 02:50:38 pm
He doesn't make the highlight reel throws either, so most don't pay him any attention.


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: TonyB0D on December 22, 2008, 04:46:47 pm
the NFL guys at ESPN laughed at me when i said pennington should be in the discussion (i never even said he should GET it).  they all say matty ice or peyton are getting it


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Sunstroke on December 22, 2008, 04:56:13 pm
This is the list of QB that have thrown more ints than Chad:

Brett Favre 
Drew Brees
Jay Cutler
Gus Frerotte
Ben Roethlisberger
Marc Bulger
Tony Romo
Kurt Warner
Jake Delhomme
Joe Flacco
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Tyler Thigpen
Matt Cassel
David Garrard
Donovan McNabb
J.T. O'Sullivan
Philip Rivers
Trent Edwards
Eli Manning
Kyle Orton
Matt Schaub
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Matt Ryan
Derek Anderson

By this logic, you'd have awarded last year's MVP to David Garrard...

I think Peyton is going to win it...and I think he actually deserves to win it. You can make a case for Pennington, but I still see Peyton as the better candidate for the award.



Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 22, 2008, 05:28:50 pm
By this logic, you'd have awarded last year's MVP to David Garrard...

I think Peyton is going to win it...and I think he actually deserves to win it. You can make a case for Pennington, but I still see Peyton as the better candidate for the award.



That was only one reason I listed.  And if this was 2004 with Manning's 49 TD it would be a different story.  But nobody is lights out this year. 

It is not just his not throwing ints, the dolphins went from being the punch line of late night tv jokes to leading the division going into week 17. He got to camp late, he learned a brand new offense in less time than future HOF and Pro-bowler Favre with none of the drama. 





Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Thundergod on December 22, 2008, 05:33:03 pm
Other than Chad who did the Dolphins add to the roster between a horrid 1-15 and a very respectable 11-5.

Last year's returning players (hope I'm not missing anyone): not counting R. Williams since he didn't play...

Offense        Defense          ST

R. Brown      M. Roth            B. Fields
T. Ginn         V. Holliday
D. Martin      C. Crowder
V. Carey       J. Porter  
S. Satele      W. Allen
G. Camarillo   R. Hill


This isn't last year's team coached by last year's crew. He's part of a nice puzzle that has played well together and overseen by a more competent group.

BTW, CP's a short yardage passer, hence his low int's and high completion %, always has been. He doesn't fling it like Favre and throws stupid passes in order to try to make a play. He's a conservative QB. MVP? Debatable, I'm sure.



Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Tepop84 on December 22, 2008, 05:35:19 pm
Pennington is a great quarterback, but I don't think he should be mvp.


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 22, 2008, 05:44:43 pm


This isn't last year's team coached by last year's crew. He's part of a nice puzzle that has played well together and overseen by a more competent group.


Name one person the Dolphins added to the roster other than Pennington and Long, that the fans of 31 teams wouldn't go "who?" if you asked them what position the guy plays. 

Dolphins only significant FA acquisition this year was Chad. 


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Thundergod on December 22, 2008, 05:48:11 pm
^^^

That's not what you originally asked. If you meant by well-known FA/draft pick. Then, yeah, you're right.


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on December 22, 2008, 05:50:23 pm
Name one person the Dolphins added to the roster other than Pennington and Long, that the fans of 31 teams wouldn't go "who?" if you asked them what position the guy plays. 

Dolphins only significant FA acquisition this year was Chad. 

Justin Smiley. 


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 22, 2008, 05:55:36 pm
Jason Ferguson?


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Brian Fein on December 23, 2008, 10:52:29 am
I watch a lot of football and I've never heard of either of those guys before they came to Miami.


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: bsfins on December 23, 2008, 11:01:37 am
Fergason was drafted By Parcells,as a Jet in the 7th round...Went to Dallas because of Parcells...now to Miami...Justin Smiley,was pretty good for the 49ers....I think that signing was a big one IMO....

Can we do something about the size of Hoodies sig Please....


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: jtex316 on December 23, 2008, 11:02:49 am
Why is it that every award in the season should always go to a Miami Dolphin for you guys?

The MVP of the NFL is going to be Peyton Manning. (Not Chad)
The Coach of the Year is going to be Mike Smith who is one game and one Panthers loss from going from Michael Vick to a rookie QB and the #2 overall NFC Seed. (Not Sporano)
The Offensive player of the year should go to Drew Brees / Adrian Peterson (Not Chad or Ronnie Brown)
The Defensive player of the year should go to Demarcus Ware (20 Sacks) (Not Joey Porter)
The Rookie of the year is going to be Matt Ryan (Not Jake Long)
The comeback player of the year - that's what Chad Pennington should win



Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 23, 2008, 11:05:21 am
Why is it that every award in the season should always go to a Miami Dolphin for you guys?


The thread was started by a Patriots fan and several Dolphin fans argued against it. 


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: Tepop84 on December 23, 2008, 11:06:13 am
Why is it that every award in the season should always go to a Miami Dolphin for you guys?

The MVP of the NFL is going to be Peyton Manning. (Not Chad)
The Coach of the Year is going to be Mike Smith who is one game and one Panthers loss from going from Michael Vick to a rookie QB and the #2 overall NFC Seed. (Not Sporano)
The Offensive player of the year should go to Drew Brees / Adrian Peterson (Not Chad or Ronnie Brown)
The Defensive player of the year should go to Demarcus Ware (20 Sacks) (Not Joey Porter)
The Rookie of the year is going to be Matt Ryan (Not Jake Long)
The comeback player of the year - that's what Chad Pennington should win



lol at your post.  no way should adrian peterson win offensive player.  And james harrison should win defensive player of the year.  21 more tackles, 4 less sacks, 1 more interception, 1 more forced fumble.


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 23, 2008, 11:08:47 am


Can we do something about the size of Hoodies sig Please....


I found a smaller one. 


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: bsfins on December 23, 2008, 11:19:02 am
(http://pic.leech.it/i/ce2b3/a218ee5dvinylmagne.jpg) (http://pic.leech.it/pic.php?id=a218ee5dvinylmagne.jpg)
Try that one..Less dead space,Have a great day!


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 23, 2008, 11:31:42 am
(http://pic.leech.it/i/ce2b3/a218ee5dvinylmagne.jpg) (http://pic.leech.it/pic.php?id=a218ee5dvinylmagne.jpg)
Try that one..Less dead space,Have a great day!

Seems to be about the same. 

This is freaking hilarious.  A Dolphin fan helping a Pats fan with his Jets logo!


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: raptorsfan29 on December 23, 2008, 11:33:52 am
Seems to be about the same. 

This is freaking hilarious.  A Dolphin fan helping a Pats fan with his Jets logo!

i think he was referring to the space around the logo.

Now i have seen everything, a pats fan rooting for the jets. It's a sign of armageddon


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: StL FinFan on December 23, 2008, 11:38:26 am
i think he was referring to the space around the logo.

Now i have seen everything, a pats fan rooting for the jets. It's a sign of armageddon

Oh good, then I don't have to pay off all the stuff I purchased for Christmas presents!  ;)


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: bsfins on December 23, 2008, 11:57:23 am
Yours is 300 pixals high,the one I posted is 198pixals..The logo is the same size.....

Someone helping them out,or being nice,is just the way I was raised.(regardless of what colors they root for..).....I live in the middle of Chiefs,Cowboys,and Rams Fans...I'm a Cub Fan living deep in the heart of Cardinal Country.....


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 23, 2008, 12:24:24 pm


Now i have seen everything, a pats fan rooting for the jets. It's a sign of armageddon

not only that but some Jet fans are Billieving and other are actually rooting for the fish cause they hate the pats that much and/or want Mangini fired.


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 23, 2008, 12:26:51 pm
.

Someone helping them out,or being nice,is just the way I was raised.(regardless of what colors they root for..).....I live in the middle of Chiefs,Cowboys,and Rams Fans...I'm a Cub Fan living deep in the heart of Cardinal Country.....

I know.   And THANK YOU.  But you have to admit that a Dolphin fan helping a Patriots fan with a JETS LOGO is pretty freaking hilarious.


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: bsmooth on December 23, 2008, 12:47:47 pm
Why is it that every award in the season should always go to a Miami Dolphin for you guys?

The MVP of the NFL is going to be Peyton Manning. (Not Chad)
The Coach of the Year is going to be Mike Smith who is one game and one Panthers loss from going from Michael Vick to a rookie QB and the #2 overall NFC Seed. (Not Sporano)
The Offensive player of the year should go to Drew Brees / Adrian Peterson (Not Chad or Ronnie Brown)
The Defensive player of the year should go to Demarcus Ware (20 Sacks) (Not Joey Porter)
The Rookie of the year is going to be Matt Ryan (Not Jake Long)
The comeback player of the year - that's what Chad Pennington should win



What's wrong? You couldn't find an NFC player to be MVP since every other catagory you have is an NFC player winning it. Take your own personal blinders off.


Title: Re: League MVP - You will never guess who I think deserves it.
Post by: NADS on December 23, 2008, 06:49:54 pm
Why is it that every award in the season should always go to a Miami Dolphin for you guys?

The MVP of the NFL is going to be Peyton Manning. (Not Chad)
The Coach of the Year is going to be Mike Smith who is one game and one Panthers loss from going from Michael Vick to a rookie QB and the #2 overall NFC Seed. (Not Sporano)
The Offensive player of the year should go to Drew Brees / Adrian Peterson (Not Chad or Ronnie Brown)
The Defensive player of the year should go to Demarcus Ware (20 Sacks) (Not Joey Porter)
The Rookie of the year is going to be Matt Ryan (Not Jake Long)
The comeback player of the year - that's what Chad Pennington should win



I'd agree with Chad as Comeback but from 1-15 to the greatest rebound of a 1-15 team ever puts Sparano over Smith.  I like Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu as MVP but that'll never happen.  Matt Forte over Matt Ryan.  Drew Brees if he breaks Marino's record.