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just something i was thinking of.

Should Shoeless Joe Jackson or any of the players that were banned from baseball be reinstated and inducted into the hall of fame

How about Pete Rose, one of arguably the greatest players to play the game of baseball.

I didn't go into talk about the players in the steriods ERA since we are already talking about them. But if you want to tell if they should or not, be my guest.

edited: had to clarify what hall of fame i was talking about

I disagree, but OJ should be removed. 

If they bet on the game and fixed the game, then no, they should not be in the hall. 

Although I think Buck Coffey should not have been banned from the game.  He did not participate in the Black Sox scandal.  He got the same penalty for knowing of it and not saying anything.  That's not right. 

I don't think OJ should be removed.  His actions were completely separate from his life of football, or anything related to the NFL in any way.  Also, he was found not guilty for murder, and his other crime was not worthy of getting him stripped from the hall.

It was a bit different when Shoeless Joe played. Comiskey was notorious for his cheap ways, benching his own players  so they wouldn't reach certain performance bonuses. Still, they threw the World Series. I understand why they did it, but it's still kind of hard to swallow.

Baseball's HOF is full of shitheads (same for any HOF) and morally reprehensible people so what's the difference ?  Way back in the late 1800s a guy near my hometown was great but he was an lush so he didn't get in.  The HOF is full of druggies and alchys and gamblers and roid monsters with a sprinkling of baby rapers.  So, what's the difference? 

The MLB didn't start drug testing until 1991 and didn't give a rat's ass if players were juiced as long as people showed up to watch them knock it out of the park.  The only reason it's an issue now is because the government stepped in.  People want to put an asterisk beside things but once someone is in, they're in.  It's the leagues fault for letting it happen, not the player's.

Rose - no.  He bet on the game.  Period, end of discussion.

Shoeless Joe Jackson was not part of the fix and was on the greatest players ever.  It's almost a crime that he isn't in.

I heard that Shoeless Joe himself later on admitted he was in on the fix. As with Rose, if you tanked a game or betted on it and tried to change it's outcome for money, I can't let you in.

Wrong.  Shoeless Joe Jackson definitely was in on the fix.  It's Buck Coffey that wasn't. 

Betting on a game he fixed is one thing but I don't see how one person can do that in baseball.  I take it this is the worse for you.  Is it because it ruins the "soul" of the game?   

So, that still has nothing to do with the numbers he put up.  I would let him in.

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Um, no he wasn't.  At least I don't believe that he was and there is a lot of evidence that shows that Jackson wasn't in on it at all.

I've seen stuff contrary to what you believe.  The book "Eight Men Out" is a prime example.... as is the move.

Just curious - do you believe everything you read?  If that is the case let me fill you in on a secret about "A Million Little Lies."  People do what they need to do in order to make a buck.  There is ample evidence that Shoeless Joe had nothing to do with that fix - enough evidence that the MLB front office has been considering a reinstatement into MLB good graces.

You either believe he's guilty or you don't, there isn't anything I can toss out there to say anything to change your mind.  But if you dig into the stats of the World Series and accounts of what happened after, you might change your mind.

Shoeless Joe needs to be in.  One of the greatest players ever, top 5 easily.

FWIW, Wikipedia says he is innocent  ;D