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Title: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: Denver_Bronco on February 28, 2009, 01:42:34 pm Just saw it on ESPN bottom line.......
Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: Frimp on February 28, 2009, 01:44:58 pm Holy crap. :o
Guess the Patsies are banking that Brady will come back strong from his injury. Shouldnt matter though. With Moss, Welker, and possibly Crabtree, I could be the QB of the Pats, bad knee and everything. Will Cassel do well away from the Pats? We'll see. Edit: AND the #3 overall draft pick?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: bsfins on February 28, 2009, 02:25:35 pm Peter King is reporting The chiefs got both Cassel,and Vrabel for the 34th pick (second round pick) in this years draft...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/02/28/chiefs.trade.for.cassel/index.html?eref=T1 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/02/28/chiefs.trade.for.cassel/index.html?eref=T1) Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: stinkfish on February 28, 2009, 02:29:26 pm Not surprised at all by the Cassel trade, but the Patsies with the #3 pick is very bad for everyone in the AFC East. Damn it.
Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: bsfins on February 28, 2009, 02:31:56 pm They didn't get the 3rd overall Pick!
they got a second round pick.... Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: stinkfish on February 28, 2009, 02:43:10 pm They didn't get the 3rd overall Pick! Super good news. I just heard that from Clayton on ESPN. But did you have to yell like that, B? :Dthey got a second round pick.... Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: bsfins on February 28, 2009, 02:44:37 pm Sorry...you said you were panicking in the other thread..... :D
Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: Sunstroke on February 28, 2009, 02:55:31 pm When I saw that "and possibly Crabtree" comment above, I started to freak as well...wondering what news I'd missed. They definitely aren't getting Crabtree at #34. ;) I'm telling ya, Pioli is going to turn KC around in short order. The guy is pretty damned bright when it comes to personnel. Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: Frimp on February 28, 2009, 03:01:33 pm They didn't get the 3rd overall Pick! they got a second round pick.... HOORAY!!!! Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: raptorsfan29 on February 28, 2009, 03:30:29 pm I'm telling ya, Pioli is going to turn KC around in short order. The guy is pretty damned bright when it comes to personnel. if Pioli can strip NE for players like Parcells did with Dallas, i will forgive him for what he did in NE Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: jtex316 on February 28, 2009, 08:07:57 pm When I saw that "and possibly Crabtree" comment above, I started to freak as well...wondering what news I'd missed. They definitely aren't getting Crabtree at #34. ;) I'm telling ya, Pioli is going to turn KC around in short order. The guy is pretty damned bright when it comes to personnel. He got rid of that idiot Herm Edwards who ruined the explosive Chiefs of the early 2000's....I'm sold. Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: dolphins4life on March 01, 2009, 12:17:45 am I've said it before and I'll say it again. Cassell is AJ Feeley. In KC, he is going to be a very mediocre quarterback. He looked good in NE because he was playing with Randy Moss and Wes Welker.
He is following the same path as Feeley. He was traded for a second round pick. What a heist by the Patriots Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: stinkfish on March 01, 2009, 12:24:18 am I don't see it as a heist by the Patsies. They got one second round pick for two of their top performing guys, Cassel and Vrabel.
Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: Frimp on March 01, 2009, 09:24:31 am I don't see it as a heist by the Patsies. They got one second round pick for two of their top performing guys, Cassel and Vrabel. If Cassel and Vrabel do good with the Chiefs, then its a heist by the Chiefs. ;D Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: bsfins on March 01, 2009, 01:25:38 pm I think it depends ,if it turns out like the Ayodele/Fasano trade...It may be a good trade...for both...
Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: fyo on March 01, 2009, 02:34:20 pm Don't forget part of the trade: NE gets out of paying $16 million guaranteed.
Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: run_to_win on March 01, 2009, 06:55:22 pm Quote Why would Pats turn down 12th pick for Cassel? http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-6-0/Why-would-Pats-turn-down-12th-pick-for-Cassel-.htmlMarch 1, 2009 12:25 PM Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham Circumstances surrounding the Matt Cassel trade keep getting curiouser and curiouser. The more we learn, the more inexplicable it gets. The New England Patriots sent Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel to the Kansas City Chiefs for the 34th overall selection in this year's draft, compensation that seemed a little weak on the surface. ESPN's Chris Mortensen has since reported there was a much better offer on the table, that the Patriots passed on the 12th overall pick in a three-way trade that would've sent Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Patriots did business with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who for the previous nine years worked closely with Bill Belichick in the Patriots' front office. It must be noted new Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels was Belichick's offensive coordinator in New England. Mort and I have exchanged a few e-mails on the subject. Here is how he broke down the proposed three-way deal: This one defies logic, but a source I really trust tells me it's true: The Broncos were willing to offer their own first-round pick (12th overall) to the Patriots for Cassel. Obviously, it was conditional upon Cutler being traded and Tampa Bay was the most likely destination, the Bucs willing to part with their first- and third-round picks. But Belichick never embraced a trade with the Broncos, even though it was a head-scratcher on the value part (second-rounder versus a first-rounder). It suggests two or three speculative thoughts: 1. Belichick has always valued second-round picks (he now has three) and didn't want to be stuck at No. 12 financially for whatever reason; 2. Belichick had an agreement with Pioli all along and wouldn't break his word; 3. Belichick isn't about to help another former assistant. The Broncos sensed resistance all along, which is why they held the Bucs, Lions, Vikings, etc., at arm's length and allows McDaniels his plausible deniability on trading Cutler (and logic supports his denial). However, despite intense efforts to keep this run at Cassel under wraps, enough damage has been done that Cutler may now be on the block. The Broncos/Cutler aspect of the trade was reported by the Boston Globe. A Patriots' leak? Why? To mess with McDaniels? Mort is correct. The information is astounding. Several citizens of Patriot Nation have written into my AFC East mailbag and left notes in the comments section that Belichick didn't want a first-round pick for Cassel, that a second-rounder is more financially palatable. Ridiculous, I say. The Patriots had the No. 10 pick last year and were highly successful with it, selecting defensive rookie of the year Jerod Mayo, a franchise player who could anchor their defense for the next decade. The No. 12 pick is a commodity. The Patriots might've traded it for additional picks, dangling it on draft day to a team that has the hots for, say, quarterback Mark Sanchez, and don't want him to get away. Mort left me with one last thought: It is also interesting that Pioli made the trade without doing a deal with Cassel. This puts a lot of leverage on Cassel's side going forward. Then again, Pioli probably sensed Cassel would have preferred McDaniels and the Broncos for all the obvious reasons, which may have influenced negotiations in Cassel's favor anyway. AFC West rivalry revived here. That's a lot to think about. What do you think happened? Quote 1. Belichick has always valued second-round picks (he now has three) and didn't want to be stuck at No. 12 financially for whatever reason; 4. Belichick finds Denver and their fans as annoying as the rest of us. ;D2. Belichick had an agreement with Pioli all along and wouldn't break his word; 3. Belichick isn't about to help another former assistant. Title: Re: Chiefs acquire Matt Cassel from New England Post by: SportsChick on March 01, 2009, 09:53:39 pm Vrabel was about a $4M cap hit and in the last year of his deal. He's 34. That was behind letting him go. Still makes me sad.
As for Cassel, no shocker there really, Brady as been saying he'll be good to go and from what I understand they're pretty happy with Kevin O'Connell (3rd round pick in '08) so they're banking on that. Wouldn't shock me if they pick up a vet cheap if possible, just in case |