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Title: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: RJINTAMPA on March 31, 2009, 10:49:02 pm

in a statement by the Denver Broncos released tonight it said they will trade cutler sometime before the NFL draft.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f8ac5f&template=without-video&confirm=true




(edited by Sunstroke to correct Cutler's name spelling in topic)


Title: Re: Jay Culter To Be Traded
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on April 01, 2009, 10:50:45 am
I wonder what they'll be asking for.


Title: Re: Jay Culter To Be Traded
Post by: StL FinFan on April 01, 2009, 11:00:56 am
I would be happy to get rid of that cancer if I were a Broncos fan.  Man up and win your starting job, Mary!


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Denver_Bronco on April 01, 2009, 06:41:48 pm
I'm going to jump off of a bridge if Brady Quinn winds up the QB in Denver.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Thundergod on April 02, 2009, 08:01:11 am
^^^

We'll give you Pennington for Cutler. Straight up!   ;D


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: RJINTAMPA on April 02, 2009, 09:02:12 am
I'm going to jump off of a bridge if Brady Quinn winds up the QB in Denver.

Dont Jump, but I think that trade will end up to be the deal Denver will take.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: BeefStewert on April 02, 2009, 12:34:26 pm
I have a buddy that is a huge Broncos fan.  He thinks they will get 2 first-rounders plus a player.  I think he is delusional and would be lucky to get 1 first-rounder and a player. 

His statement made me wonder who the last player traded for 2 first-rounders.  Was it Ricky Williams?


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Tenshot13 on April 02, 2009, 01:40:05 pm
I have a buddy that is a huge Broncos fan.  He thinks they will get 2 first-rounders plus a player.  I think he is delusional and would be lucky to get 1 first-rounder and a player. 

His statement made me wonder who the last player traded for 2 first-rounders.  Was it Ricky Williams?

Was it Jared Allen last year?


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Sunstroke on April 02, 2009, 01:57:57 pm

Any team that gives up a ridiculous trade price to Denver should be slapped for mismanagement. Denver is not in the strongest negotiating position here. You have a QB and HC who flat out don't like each other, you have a QB who isn't showing up for camp, and you have a team that is publicly saying that they're trading him.

I work my way up from the bottom of the possible trade packages before I try bowling Denver over with a ridiculous offer.



Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: BeefStewert on April 02, 2009, 02:01:55 pm
Was it Jared Allen last year?
Nope.  He was a 1st, 2 3rds, and swap of 6th. 


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: BeefStewert on April 02, 2009, 02:02:34 pm
Stroke, don't forget that he's diabetic.  I'm sure that hurts his value too.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Sunstroke on April 02, 2009, 02:35:39 pm

He was diabetic all the way to the Pro Bowl...I don't think that will necessarily lower his value much at all.

Great stat they keep throwing out on TV and radio... In games where the Denver defense gave up 21 points or less, Cutler is 13-1 as a starter.



Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: jtex316 on April 02, 2009, 04:41:21 pm
He was diabetic all the way to the Pro Bowl...I don't think that will necessarily lower his value much at all.

Great stat they keep throwing out on TV and radio... In games where the Denver defense gave up 21 points or less, Cutler is 13-1 as a starter.



Detroit, Jets - 2 equally shitty teams with equally bad defenses. He should play in Minnesota where their defense is bad-ass and their QB is horrible.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: BeefStewert on April 02, 2009, 05:29:56 pm
Maybe Cutler was the last player traded for 2 first-rounders - the Bears just got him.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on April 02, 2009, 05:52:17 pm
Maybe Cutler was the last player traded for 2 first-rounders - the Bears just got him.

Yep.  Denver gets Kyle Orton, plus the Bears first rounders in 2009 and 2010.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373


Any team that gives up a ridiculous trade price to Denver should be slapped for mismanagement. Denver is not in the strongest negotiating position here. You have a QB and HC who flat out don't like each other, you have a QB who isn't showing up for camp, and you have a team that is publicly saying that they're trading him.

Stroke, would you deem what the Bears gave up to be a "ridiculous price"


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Sunstroke on April 02, 2009, 05:52:58 pm

Yep, this year's first rounder and next year's, plus Kyle Orton...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373  (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373)

Good trade for Denver...I wouldn't have thought they could get two first rounders in the deal.

Kyle Orton is not the answer though... ;D



Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: gocowboys31 on April 02, 2009, 06:07:45 pm
Good luck mcdummy with orton.lol...the bears just got a franchise Qb, you just got a ticket to the umemployment line. Within 2 years you're ass is gone. Cutler will come out smelling like a rose, mcdummy will look like an idiot.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: StL FinFan on April 02, 2009, 06:08:24 pm
The Broncos also gave the Bears a 3rd round 2009 pick.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: bsfins on April 02, 2009, 07:15:29 pm
The Broncos raped the Bears,but sadly Cutler is the best QB they've had in many many years...And seeing my Mom jump up and down..with Glee at getting a new QB....Worth every penny....


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on April 02, 2009, 08:46:34 pm
I have to agree with Gocowboys- McDaniels just wrote his ticket out of town. This years first round pick is #18 overall, and next years will probably be lower. Those two players won't make the type of impact that will improve the Bronco's, considering that they were on the decline anyway.

It may seem like the Bronco's "raped the Bears", but only time will tell. If Cutler is able to get the Bears over the hump (and I said "IF"), then the trade was great for the Bears.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: RJINTAMPA on April 02, 2009, 10:43:40 pm
I think time will tell for sure as to who won in this trade. The bears made a bold and big move at the same time as well today.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on April 03, 2009, 08:24:38 am
I will say this.... the Bears butchered their next two drafts in order to win now.  I personally can't say who got the better end of the deal until I see what the Broncos do with these picks.  As it stands right now, the Broncos can easily get Mark Sanchez with the #12 pick.  However, they could package the #12 and #18 picks and move up to get Matt Stafford.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: SportsChick on April 03, 2009, 08:33:59 am
but the Bears don't have a No. 1 receiver (hell, they don't really have a true No. 2 either) and the lost their two best tackles in the offseason. I think they're taking a huge step backwards this season, with or without Cutler


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on April 03, 2009, 08:44:16 am
but the Bears don't have a No. 1 receiver (hell, they don't really have a true No. 2 either) and the lost their two best tackles in the offseason. I think they're taking a huge step backwards this season, with or without Cutler

Hold that thought for a second.  They just picked up Orlando Pace

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/982194.html

I'd be willing to bet they go looking for a top receiver in the draft.  That's pretty much all they need.  That defense is ferocious.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Phishfan on April 03, 2009, 08:53:03 am
I have to agree with Gocowboys- McDaniels just wrote his ticket out of town. This years first round pick is #18 overall, and next years will probably be lower. Those two players won't make the type of impact that will improve the Bronco's, considering that they were on the decline anyway.

It may seem like the Bronco's "raped the Bears", but only time will tell. If Cutler is able to get the Bears over the hump (and I said "IF"), then the trade was great for the Bears.

I agree that getting rid of a Pro Bowl QB is crazy. We know from experience QBs do not grow on tress, but I have to disagree with your comments about the picks. I'm not sure about the Broncos status but you have to consider they should also have their own first round picks to pair with what they receive from Chicago. You can get lots of talent to improve your team making two selections in the first round two years in a row. You also have some good fire power for moving around with those extra picks also.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: bsfins on April 03, 2009, 11:04:48 am
but the Bears don't have a No. 1 receiver (hell, they don't really have a true No. 2 either) and the lost their two best tackles in the offseason. I think they're taking a huge step backwards this season, with or without Cutler

Ahh no faith in Marty Booker? (who I think is gone now)  Devin Hester? Rashied Davis (faster Marty Booker Clone,think Derrius Thompson)

 :D Urlacaher is in his tenth year, Ogunleye is in his 9th,Tillman is in his 7th...Alex Brown I think in his 7th or 8th,briggs is in his 5th or 6th year already..The defense is slipping and aging....While I think Cutler is a better playmaker,and an upgrade,the no recievers are killer...I think they'll continue to utilize Greg
Olsen,Desmond Clark,Matt Forte,and Kevin Jones....We'll see how god Cutler really is with out those really good Wr's he had in Denver....

The Bears haven't made a nice bold move like this since...err firing Ditka?


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: Dave Gray on April 06, 2009, 12:46:00 pm
I think it's worth it for the Bears.  They've been playing QB roulette for years on these bums.  2 First rounders is nothing, if it works.


Title: Re: Jay Cutler To Be Traded
Post by: CF DolFan on April 06, 2009, 05:43:51 pm
I think it's worth it for the Bears.  They've been playing QB roulette for years on these bums.  2 First rounders is nothing, if it works.

I agree.  They got a proven commodity which is more than most that are drafting can say.