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Title: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Tenshot13 on September 04, 2009, 03:24:32 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4445891 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4445891)

Make sure you watch the video.  I think this is some bullshit and the Oregon player needs to be suspended for the rest of the year.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Brian Fein on September 04, 2009, 03:29:26 pm
Suspended?  I expect him to be thrown off the team.  I don't think College teams can tolerate loose cannons, but maybe that's just me being too disciplinarian.

I'd consider revoking his scholarship, too, if applicable.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Sunstroke on September 04, 2009, 03:41:08 pm

I think he should be booted off the team...you just can't suckerpunch another player like that, even if he says something that really pisses ya off.



Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: StL FinFan on September 04, 2009, 03:44:35 pm
I also vote for kick him off the team.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Denver_Bronco on September 04, 2009, 03:48:53 pm
The Boise State player deserved every bit of the punch to the face. He got punked and snuffed on national television for everyone to see after he thought he was Mr. Cool taunting that Oregon player.

I loved the jelly legs, you pussy.

The Oregon player only acted inappropriately AFTER hitting the guy when he continued to be beligerant and fight with everyone else.

Had that Boise State player had his helmet on, and was punched or slapped at, which happens in about half of the games, this would be a non-issue, warranting maybe a one game suspension. 

Its only an issue because he got punched directly in the face with his helmet off. The penalty should be no different then a guy would receive for slapping or punching a guy while on the field of play.



Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on September 04, 2009, 04:03:35 pm
I agree with DB.

I watched the youtube videos and the announcers kept talking about sportsmanship and how appalling the RB's behavior was.  It was, I'm in agreement there but they never mentioned what shitty sportsmanship the Boise DE had.  Sore winners are worse than sore losers.  I enjoyed that punch.  Got what ya had comin' to ya, kid!  ;)


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: David Fulcher on September 04, 2009, 04:04:00 pm
I loved the jelly legs, you pussy.

Let's see how you reacted if you got suckerpunched/cold-cocked when you weren't looking (by definition).  I'm not gonna sit here and try to say that that Boise St. (defensive end?) is probably an angel in this situation, supposedly he was talking some mess, but man, you gotta have your head on your shoulders A LOT more than to do what that #9 kid did.  Plus, it's not like the guy even saw it comin', his head was slightly turned or turning when it happened.  You'll notice how #9 starts backing up immediately after he throws the punch.  Not that I blame him, I'm sure I'd have done the same thing (back away, that is...hopefully I wouldn't have punched someone else in the first place, though), but let's not make the guy out to be Billy Badass, either.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Dave Gray on September 04, 2009, 04:16:44 pm
Expulsion.  It makes your school look bad to keep him on.

Send a message.  Get rid of him.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: StL FinFan on September 04, 2009, 04:24:36 pm
I don't care what someone says to you.  Jaw back all you want but verbal taunting does not give you the right to put your hands on another person. 


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Brian Fein on September 04, 2009, 04:34:16 pm
football players jaw at each other the entire game.  Mature players control themselves, maybe talk back.  Immature thugs throw punches as retaliation.

There's no excuse.  I don't care if he called his momma a crack whore.  You throw a punch, you're done.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: BigDaddyFin on September 04, 2009, 04:45:03 pm
if he threw a punch, he's either too dumb or not good enough to get even the right way.  Plenty of shit you can do between plays or during them if a guy is giving you shit and you want to shut him up, or just if you're in the mood to send someone a message.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Phishfan on September 04, 2009, 05:10:10 pm
^^^The punch was after the game. No in between plays then.

I don't think he would have gooten the full season suspension without the after the fact carrying on he did. If he had just walked straight off the field & made the right appology he would have gotten punished, but not thrown away I don't think.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Defense54 on September 04, 2009, 05:57:27 pm

He needs to be Tazed.  (JUST KIDDING.........Relax )

Kicked off the team?  Thats a Battery and I would call Law enforcement. Arrested and Kicked off is more like it.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Dave Gray on September 04, 2009, 06:03:37 pm
^ I agree.

I have zero tolerance for this kind of this.  It's not just a game.  It's assault.  He should be cuffed and taken to jail.

I doubt many of us could sucker punch someone at our jobs and get the right to return.  ...not to mention that this guy is probably on scholarship.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 04, 2009, 07:36:51 pm
Watching ESPN right now.   They are reporting that Blount (The Oregon RB) has been suspended for the remainder of the season and cannot wear any Oregon attire for any college postseason games (Hula Bowl/Shrine Game). 

He's a senior coming off a 1002 yard ant 17 TD season.  This was his year to break out.  Although I think his actions are depolrable and I agree with the punishment, I feel bad for him in a way because this is going to mess up his NFL chances. 

IMO, they should have done this to Brandon Merriweather back in 2006 when he stomped on that FIU player. 


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: bsmooth on September 04, 2009, 11:09:09 pm
He needs to be Tazed.  (JUST KIDDING.........Relax )

Kicked off the team?  Thats a Battery and I would call Law enforcement. Arrested and Kicked off is more like it.

Since we are talking law here, many states have laws in place that if you make a comment to someone that could provoke a person to fight it is the equivilent to throwing the first punch.
We do not know what was said, but I agree with DB, if that punch had not planted him on his ass, this would not be nearly as big a story.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: DZA on September 05, 2009, 01:26:42 pm
what an an idiot one thing to puch the guy in the face... Good punch by the way.   But to go after the fans, come on he should have been using better judgment. He totally messed up his future. 


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Defense54 on September 05, 2009, 09:18:44 pm
Since we are talking law here, many states have laws in place that if you make a comment to someone that could provoke a person to fight it is the equivilent to throwing the first punch.
We do not know what was said, but I agree with DB, if that punch had not planted him on his ass, this would not be nearly as big a story.

Last time I checked words can't hurt. No matter what was said. But it looked friendly enough because the guy that got hit was smiling. I'd like to know of 1 state that has that Law. I can't even see Texas having such a dumb Law.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Defense54 on September 05, 2009, 09:21:50 pm
Watching ESPN right now.   They are reporting that Blount (The Oregon RB) has been suspended for the remainder of the season and cannot wear any Oregon attire for any college postseason games (Hula Bowl/Shrine Game). 

He's a senior coming off a 1002 yard ant 17 TD season.  This was his year to break out.  Although I think his actions are depolrable and I agree with the punishment, I feel bad for him in a way because this is going to mess up his NFL chances. 

IMO, they should have done this to Brandon Merriweather back in 2006 when he stomped on that FIU player. 

Feel Sorry for him? Can you imagine this guy in the Pro's? He would take up a teams Valuable draft pick , get the Team penilized and be a maggot in the Locker room. He's lucky he's not facing Legal charges. He should be.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 05, 2009, 09:24:57 pm
Since we are talking law here, many states have laws in place that if you make a comment to someone that could provoke a person to fight it is the equivilent to throwing the first punch.
We do not know what was said, but I agree with DB, if that punch had not planted him on his ass, this would not be nearly as big a story.

I don't think that there is any state that has such a law.

What many states do allow for is a lessor offense if the comment was outrageous that a reasonable person in a similiar sitution would be unable to control themselves and there was no adiquate cooling off period.  

Calling a player on the losing team a loser would not quailfy.

Telling someone whose sister had been burtally raped and mudered and mutilated, "I was the person who raped your sister.  The best part was listening to her whimpers and beg for mercy as I chopped off her fingers one by one."  Would probably quailfy for the assaliant to get a lessor offense.  Lessor offense....not off scot free.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 05, 2009, 09:38:49 pm
He needs to be Tazed.  (JUST KIDDING.........Relax )



LMAO...

Kudos when they are due.  You literally made me laugh out loud on this one, well done.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 05, 2009, 09:41:15 pm
Feel Sorry for him? Can you imagine this guy in the Pro's? He would take up a teams Valuable draft pick , get the Team penilized and be a maggot in the Locker room. He's lucky he's not facing Legal charges. He should be.

Gotta agree. 

Holy crap, that's twice in one thread.  Think the locusts are coming soon!  ;)

The guy had issues before this as well.  If he can't hack college how will he carry himself when you stuff his pockets with green?  He seems like a bad egg all around.  Case in point is Lawrence Phillips.  That cat should have never been given a shot in the NFL after the crap he pulled while a "student" in college.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: stinkfish on September 06, 2009, 12:34:43 am
I don't think that what he's done warrants expulsion from school. I think that's sort of a knee jerk reaction. Suspend him from the team this season, you betcha, but let him redeem himself next season, and keep an eye on him academically in the mean time.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Dave Gray on September 06, 2009, 02:21:17 am
I am under the impression that physical violence and verbal sparring aren't in the same ballpark of severity.

Hitting something is infinitely more objectionable to me, no matter what has been said.

I'm not condoning trash talk, but you don't hit.  Punching another player is never OK and doing so should result in serious, serious penalties.  In a case like this, where the guy didn't have a helmet on, I'd call the authorities and have the guy arrested.  I wouldn't take one iota of shit.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: stinkfish on September 06, 2009, 02:32:48 am
I'm not condoning punching  a rival ball player either. There's no room for that in competition.  But the opinions I've heard and read on this instance, calling for this kid's expulsion from school go, over the top for me.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Dave Gray on September 06, 2009, 02:38:26 am
I think he should be kicked off the team and his scholarship revoked.  If he decides to stay in school there, fine.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: stinkfish on September 06, 2009, 02:42:35 am
Oh, he's on scholarship? Hmmmm.... I didn't even think about that. My bad.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 06, 2009, 07:52:32 am
Oh, he's on scholarship? Hmmmm.... I didn't even think about that. My bad.

Yes, and if you get kicked off the team for that type of behavior or other misbehavior, your scholarship is revoked.  Doesn't mean you can't get it back later. 

Case in point:  Former Gators and current Patriots WR Jabbar Gaffney.  He was caught stealing stuff out of a teammate's locker as a sophomore and was kicked off the team by then coach Steve Spurrier.  He approached coach Spurrier later with the teammate he stole from, apologized for what he had done, and asked for a second chance.  Spurrier let him come back to the team as a walk on for his junior year, then put him back on scholarship for his senior year.

Now in the case of the Oregon RB, he's a senior, so his college career is likely over.  I don't think you can get a redshirt for being suspended like you can for injuries.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: Gabriel on September 06, 2009, 09:01:29 am
If I were the kid from Boise State, I would press charges.

I don't understand why this kid gets to keep his scholarship? I would have lost my academic scholarship if my GPA fell below 3.0. Why does he get to keep his athletic scholarship when he's no longer allowed to play?


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 06, 2009, 08:40:24 pm
If I were the kid from Boise State, I would press charges.

I don't understand why this kid gets to keep his scholarship? I would have lost my academic scholarship if my GPA fell below 3.0. Why does he get to keep his athletic scholarship when he's no longer allowed to play?

I don't think pressing charges would do anything to Blount.  Blount is in Oregon, and if he commited simple assault/battery in Idaho, I doubt the law would go after him for that.  The county in which Boise State is in would have to pay for Oregon to hold him until they come and get him, and most don't do that for crimes like battery.  So if charges are filed against him, all he'd have to do is stay out of Idaho and he'd be fine..

I'm trying to remember where Defense touched up on that.....  Oh yeah, I remember now  It's in the Carnie Folk thread.

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=13803.0


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: BingeBag on September 06, 2009, 08:53:54 pm
Tommy, It's really a moot point since they came out and said they aren't going to press charges.

As for the fan that had him going into the stands. If you watch the video. You can clearly lip-read the guy on the left hand side dropping the n-word on him. You can sink that up and realize that's where the kid lost it again.

But beyond that, people make huge mistakes in life. I know I have personally gotten into stupid fights with other people in my life because of something verbally thrown at me. Cameras or not, it happens. You can't end this kids life for it. I think they are pretty honorable for keeping him on scholarship and allowing him to practice with the team so he still has a shot at the NFL.


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: bsmooth on September 14, 2009, 03:19:24 am
Defense... California has that law so there is at least one state. Also words can hurt, which is why it is illegal to shout "fire" in a crowded place. You can be arrested for saying you wished the president were dead, even though you are not planing anything.
Hoodie... You don't even have to get that elaborate. Call a minority an ethnic slur and you will usually have a fight.
Jim Rome interviewed the Oregon coach on thusday and he asked ifhe knew what the other player said, and he said he did, Rome then asked if it was something that could have provoked Blount and his answer was he didn't want to discuss it anymore. Why did he just say no? It leaves open the door that maybe something was said and both coaches are trying to bury it so they don't have to deal with it anymore


Title: Re: Oregon player punches Boise State player
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on October 02, 2009, 01:27:38 pm
BUMP

They might let him come back before the season is over.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/10/02/oregon-blount.ap/index.html?xid=siextra_newsletter100209