Title: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: CF DolFan on September 15, 2009, 08:22:49 am I know that no one wants to hear this but it is very possible and I don't mean this just because we looked like a JV team on Sunday. We still have Indy on MNF and then San Diego on the road.
History shows that it is almost impossible to make the playoffs if you lose the first 3 games. Since the playoffs were expanded to 12 teams in 1990, 211 teams have began their season 0-3 and only 3 of the 211 teams made the playoffs. So, my question is this ... if we lose the first three games do they bring in Henne or does Sparano keep playing Penny to win a game first? Edited to note that means we would only have a 1.4 % chance of making the playoffs. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 15, 2009, 08:41:53 am I would keep Pennington in there if they start off 0-3. Once the season is hopelessly lost, then I put Henne in. 0-3 is tough to overcome but not impossible.
On a side note, when Defense was up here, we hung out at the Ale House one night and met this dude who had met Bill Parcells several times. He told us that coaching runs in Parcells blood and if the Dolphins start off bad this year, don't be surprised to see Sparano pushed aside and Parcells taking over the coaching reins. If the Dolphins do start 0-3, let's see if this guy's theory is correct. Disclaimer: This does not mean that I am calling for Sparano's head. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: Phishfan on September 15, 2009, 09:10:22 am You don't change QBs after three games unless Pennington is just horrible.
I don't see Parcells stepping into the coaching reigns ever again. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: Dolphster on September 15, 2009, 09:12:25 am Barring injury, I doubt we would see a QB change until fairly late in the season. And that would only be if the record was 2-10 or something. I think that Sparano will be the coach for the remainder of the year, no matter what the record is. I think that Sparano is a good coach and I think Parcells knows that.
Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 15, 2009, 06:04:59 pm Shouldn't any thread that is prepositioned on the team's season being over in September belong in the anti-fins section?
Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: DZA on September 15, 2009, 10:32:06 pm Oh god here goes the Bench Penny thread ..
Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: Defense54 on September 15, 2009, 10:50:59 pm I would keep Pennington in there if they start off 0-3. Once the season is hopelessly lost, then I put Henne in. 0-3 is tough to overcome but not impossible. On a side note, when Defense was up here, we hung out at the Ale House one night and met this dude who had met Bill Parcells several times. He told us that coaching runs in Parcells blood and if the Dolphins start off bad this year, don't be surprised to see Sparano pushed aside and Parcells taking over the coaching reins. If the Dolphins do start 0-3, let's see if this guy's theory is correct. Disclaimer: This does not mean that I am calling for Sparano's head. That dude was Nuts. :P We might go 0-3 , I don't know. But I like what I've seen of Sprano. No WAY he doesn't get results out of this bunch. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: Dave Gray on September 16, 2009, 04:55:20 am I am of the belief that unless it's down the stretch and you're several games out, that you put the player in the game that gives you the best chance of winning TODAY. If the coaches think that's Henne, then fine, but I don't want to see Henne play for what he might do tomorrow.
Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: Phishfan on September 16, 2009, 09:10:09 am Oh god here goes the Bench Penny thread .. Hard to beleive CF started it. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: CF DolFan on September 16, 2009, 10:31:05 am My point is if we lose our first three games we are pretty much out of it. Maybe not mathmatically becasue it's actually really easy in the NFL to go on an 11-2 run ::) but I would not count on anything if my chances were only 1.5 % of it happening. Secondly it's not "if" Henne takes over for Penne it is "when" as was mentioned in this months Dolphin Digest. So ... if we are out of it, and most rationale people would say a 1.5% chance is out of it, why wait to see how well Penne does when it really doesn't matter anyway.
Postponing Henne's development for the sake of winning the championsghip is one thing but to do it just because is entirely another issue. As in the case of Aaron Rodgers, no amount of sitting behind a good QB makes you a a good QB. It takes game situations and mistakes to grow from for most people. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: Thundergod on September 24, 2009, 07:31:48 am As in the case of Aaron Rodgers, no amount of sitting behind a good QB makes you a a good QB. It takes game situations and mistakes to grow from for most people. Once again, WORD. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: JVides on September 25, 2009, 02:24:30 pm Maaaaaan, I thought this would be a fill in the blank thread, and I propose we make it one. As in:
"If we lose our first three games, I ____________________________." I'll go first: If we lose our first three games, I will avoid the site for a good three days so I won't have to get into fights with the "FIRE SPARANO" crowd that will surely start ranting. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on September 25, 2009, 02:26:19 pm Maaaaaan, I thought this would be a fill in the blank thread, and I propose we make it one. As in: "If we lose our first three games, I ____________________________." I'll go first: If we lose our first three games, I will avoid the site for a good three days so I won't have to get into fights with the "FIRE SPARANO" crowd that will surely start ranting. Sorry, after all this time, I just couldn't resist!!! :D I will shit my pants if the Dolphins lose their first three games of the season Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: JVides on September 25, 2009, 02:32:09 pm ^^^I was thinking of that one, too...
Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: StL FinFan on September 25, 2009, 02:53:11 pm Maaaaaan, I thought this would be a fill in the blank thread, and I propose we make it one. As in: "If we lose our first three games, I ____________________________." I'll go first: If we lose our first three games, I will avoid the site for a good three days so I won't have to get into fights with the "FIRE SPARANO" crowd that will surely start ranting. I will avoid the site to avoid not only the "fire Sparano" crowd, but the "we want Henne now" crowd and the "Ted Ginn sucks crowd" and oh wait... to late... Let's blame the offense when it's the defensive backfield that can't stop anyone. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: CF DolFan on September 25, 2009, 09:43:38 pm Let's blame the offense when it's the defensive backfield that can't stop anyone. Who has blamed the offense? I'm ready for Henne but I haven't once said he is our savior. We've got other holes to fill but acting like QB isn't one of them isn't helping anything either. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 25, 2009, 10:03:54 pm I will avoid the site to avoid not only the "fire Sparano" crowd, but the "we want Henne now" crowd and the "Ted Ginn sucks crowd" and oh wait... to late... Let's blame the offense when it's the defensive backfield that can't stop anyone. I am still waiting for the fire Parcells thread. Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: Khaotic on September 27, 2009, 10:20:06 pm I think we really need to face it that last year was really a fluke. How a team comes back from 1-15 and goes into the playoffs has a lot more to do with how we did against our own division, then it does any serious talent on the team.
Now it looks like we're trying to pick out the backlash.... I don't expect Parcells to go on the hot seat, it takes time to rebuild --- We still have needs on both sides of the ball, so sure - its only game 3. but its time to start building talent. Penny is a lot of things, and he isn't a lot of things - and a franchise leader he is not. So lets get him coaching our next QB..... Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: DZA on September 28, 2009, 02:53:28 pm I think we really need to face it that last year was really a fluke. How a team comes back from 1-15 and goes into the playoffs has a lot more to do with how we did against our own division, then it does any serious talent on the team. Now it looks like we're trying to pick out the backlash.... I don't expect Parcells to go on the hot seat, it takes time to rebuild --- We still have needs on both sides of the ball, so sure - its only game 3. but its time to start building talent. Penny is a lot of things, and he isn't a lot of things - and a franchise leader he is not. So lets get him coaching our next QB..... You cant say LAST season was a fluke. Its take a lot to go 0-2 the win the division. This is football man, if you dont bring it on sundays then you are shit out of luck. The fins are not clicking right now, teams are gunnin for the fins. Its very hard to duplicate the sucess of last year. Did you figure the FINS would have won the division Last yer after that those 2 horrific starts by NY and the blowout at Arizona only to beat ass at New england to find winning ways through the season. Come on, many of you really should have seen this comin; The shedule is a lot tougher, teams are being careful of the Wildcat, the Offense and defense are somewhat not gel - ing ;) For the impatioent, give it some time to make your verdict .. ::) ::) Easy to say that as we all had VERY HIGH expectations coming in to this season. :P Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: CF DolFan on September 28, 2009, 05:36:32 pm Should I edit this to say ... if we lose our first three games and Penny goes down for the season ...
Title: Re: If we lose our first three games ... Post by: DZA on September 28, 2009, 07:33:35 pm I was gonna add
Well Miami lost its first 3 games ::) |