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Title: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: fyo on January 04, 2010, 07:48:11 pm
There's always been one thing in the way of a rookie wage scale: The NFL Players' Union.

For some reason that still escapes me, the NFLPA has turned 180 degrees and proposed... a rookie wage scale.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81581842

Needless to say, they're giving it some massive spin, calling it "the proven performance plan". That's all well and dandy, but why have they been against such a thing for so long then? Could the sudden change of heart be due to the owners opting out of the CBA and the Union getting a bit antsy about 2011?

Personally, I hate the idea of teams throwing millions at players who have proved exactly nothing. On the other hand, teams are getting sole contract rights to a player. That should be worth something. For a top pick, they are essentially getting 5-6 years of whichever player they deem most worthy... and the contract isn't guaranteed. Sure, there's some bonus money -- more than ever these days -- but still...

All that brings me to another point... should rookie contracts be guaranteed? (In the case of a rookie wage scale)


Title: Re: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: Dave Gray on January 04, 2010, 08:09:34 pm
I'd like to see a more standardized pay scale.

There are things that bother me about the current system, especially with veterans. 


Title: Re: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on January 04, 2010, 08:41:34 pm
That big fat contract that usually goes to a #1 draft pick should go to an established veteran who has proven himself.  Additionally, rookie contracts should include insurance policies that will pay out seven figures if the player sustains a serious injury.


Title: Re: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: Dave Gray on January 04, 2010, 11:03:08 pm
I don't like how veteran contracts are often designed not to be seen through to their completion.  It often puts a team in a position where they have a great player that is going to make too much money, so they get rid of him.  That's not in the spirit of the game.  You want to reward teams and fans with the good players that they acquired, especially ones that were drafted.


Title: Re: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: Fau Teixeira on January 05, 2010, 11:00:24 am
i like the NBA does the rookie contracts and the raises and free agency


Title: Re: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: Phishfan on January 05, 2010, 11:08:03 am

Needless to say, they're giving it some massive spin, calling it "the proven performance plan". That's all well and dandy, but why have they been against such a thing for so long then? Could the sudden change of heart be due to the owners opting out of the CBA and the Union getting a bit antsy about 2011?


I would say that is part of it as well as the NFLPA having a new leader now.


Title: Re: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 05, 2010, 02:06:07 pm
The union supporting a rookie pay scale actually makes perfect sense and them opposing it never did. 

Who does the union represent?  Who will vote on approving the contract or not?  Current NFL players (not college recuits and FUTURE potential NFL players).

If we assume a "fixed pie" (total amount of money going to all players combined) then any move that decreases rookie salarys at the benifit of increasing veteran salaries benifits the current members of the union. 


Title: Re: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 06, 2010, 11:54:24 am
i like the NBA does the rookie contracts and the raises and free agency
That wouldn't work in the NFL.  The NBA has guaranteed contracts.


Title: Re: Rookie wage scale being explored...
Post by: Fau Teixeira on January 06, 2010, 12:27:03 pm
not necessarily true .. Good players get guaranteed contracts, most others get either no guarantees, or partial guarantees, just like the NFL