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Title: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: jtex316 on January 08, 2010, 03:29:52 pm
http://bit.ly/83Ka4A

Is this serious? (Click on the link to check out the pic).

You may have thought the Dolphins' home stadium had hit bottom with its "Land Shark" moniker, but now another bizarre retrofitting is in the works.

With NFL officials warning that Miami is about to be on the "Do Not Host Super Bowl" list, stadium officials are suggesting a 621,000 square-foot roof be attached on top of the stadium.

The immediate online responses to the roof ("mind numbing ugly," "could scare away a hurricane") have been brutal. Thankfully, the proposed changes inside are getting much better reviews:

The good news for football fans at both levels is that seating is being brought in closer to the sidelines. The gap between the bleachers and the field was always a gridiron drawback, and it's corrected somewhat with the latest revisioning. Plus those upgraded video screens looks awful sweet.

The roof would cover all the seats in the stadium, while at the same time allowing the sun and rain to come down on the field.

So while spectators would be spared the rain, which plagued the last Super Bowl here, the field and game play would be subject to the elements.

Dolphins CEO Mike Dee made it clear Thursday the renovations are not about the loyal Dolfans who faithfully come to the games during the regular season. This is all about the Super Bowl.

"This is not about the Dolphins or the stadium," Dee said. "It's about economic development. It's about being able to compete for events on a national and international level."

The next question is who is going to pay for all these renovations, which could escalate to close to $300 million.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: gocowboys31 on January 08, 2010, 04:16:25 pm
That thing looks like a piece of aluminum foil with a whole in it. Good luck convincing taxpayers to pay for this.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 08, 2010, 05:34:28 pm
It doesn't look so terrible to me.  These are all things that Mike Dee mentioned (roof, bringing seats closer to the field, etc.) at Web Weekend.

I think that some sort of covering needs to happen down here.  It's just too damn hot to ask your average person to go sit in for 4 hours on a 1PM start.  I took my Dad to a game this year and had to wait for a 4 PM game.  Another friend of mine's dad was literally taken away in an ambulance from the conditions.  It can get pretty brutal.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on January 08, 2010, 05:36:43 pm
That is hideous.....with all of the technology this is the best they could come up with?  :o


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on January 08, 2010, 07:29:41 pm
That is really fucking hideous.  They need a full enclosure on top with a retractable roof.  Better yet, tear the damned thing down and build it up so that it's even better than the new Cowboys Stadium. 


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: dolphantom on January 08, 2010, 09:36:58 pm
That is hideous.....with all of the technology this is the best they could come up with?  :o

comon' man,  we're the dolphins. we go in style!! you really expected more from our franchise?


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 09, 2010, 04:05:10 am
Something tells me this whole roof/upgrade/do not let miami host the superbowl again shit has to do with the fact that it rained on the Colts/Bears and less to do with the actual stadium.

That and the fact that Jerry Jones built the most lavish and bordering on ridiculously extravagant stadium on the planet and now he wants to make some of his money back.

If I were Stephen Ross, I'd say ok, Mr. Goodell, we're tearing down Landshark stadium and we're rebuilding in its place a replica of the orange bowl complete with noisy fans and stands that shake and scare the shit out of the opposing players/fans.  Send the Pro Bowl back to Hawaii, and you can rotate the superbowl between Dallas, New Orleans and Arizona/San Diego for the rest of your tenure here.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: bsfins on January 09, 2010, 11:43:55 am
It looks like some Redneck engineering.....Maybe it's a Celebrity Helicopter Parking...You know it's so hard to find a place to land the Helicopter at these type of events.....I know I've never been there,but when I see shots of the stadium...It looks fairly barron,are they planning on planting all those trees?


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 09, 2010, 01:28:29 pm
I know I've never been there,but when I see shots of the stadium...It looks fairly barron,are they planning on planting all those trees?

I noticed the same thing.  I can see them planting the trees right next to the stadium, but look in the nearby areas.  It's all green fields.  ...not the dirt lots and government housing that is really there.



Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: TonyB0D on January 09, 2010, 02:17:05 pm
JTEX, what is that retarded link you're using?


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Sunstroke on January 09, 2010, 02:25:37 pm

That is seriously butt-ugly, and it reeeeeally doesn't look like it could stand up to some of the extreme weather we have down here.



Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Pats2006 on January 09, 2010, 03:05:54 pm
Who dezined that J-Lo


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: stinkfish on January 09, 2010, 09:52:26 pm
Fail.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Brian Fein on January 09, 2010, 11:34:57 pm
I don't know what will happen when that roof starts collecting water.  Engineering 101 - flat roofs don't work when it rains a lot.  It needs to be pitched somehow, I don't understand why it needs to cover the ramps and concourse. 

I do like bringing the bleachers closer to the field though.  Friggin' soccer... ::)


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 10, 2010, 07:03:04 am
Even "flat" roofs aren't really flat.  They are just given that appearance.  It's probably pitched slightly, but you just can't tell from the picture.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: jtex316 on January 11, 2010, 08:35:55 am
JTEX, what is that retarded link you're using?

It's called a "shortened URL". It's used on Twitter and Facebook to preserve character limits.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: fyo on January 11, 2010, 08:50:58 am
It's called a "shortened URL". It's used on Twitter and Facebook to preserve character limits.

And it's completely retarded, as TonyB0D said. You have no idea what kind of nasty crap you're clicking on -- not without installing bit.ly's plugin to allow previewing of shortened URLs, anyway.

On a forum where there is no character limit, it's COMPLETELY stupid.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: jtex316 on January 11, 2010, 10:20:57 am
And it's completely retarded, as TonyB0D said. You have no idea what kind of nasty crap you're clicking on -- not without installing bit.ly's plugin to allow previewing of shortened URLs, anyway.

On a forum where there is no character limit, it's COMPLETELY stupid.

I don't see anyone else bitching about it. Maybe it's just you?


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Sunstroke on January 11, 2010, 10:38:52 am

^^^ I wasn't bitching...but I wasn't clicking either. ;)



Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Phishfan on January 11, 2010, 10:40:23 am
If we want to take a survey I was concerned about it myself.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Brian Fein on January 11, 2010, 10:56:58 am
Even "flat" roofs aren't really flat.  They are just given that appearance.  It's probably pitched slightly, but you just can't tell from the picture.
if its made out of canvas to allow filtered light to go through, I can see the canvas sagging and collecting water, getting dirty, etc.  Just looks bad, IMO


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on January 11, 2010, 11:03:37 am
if its made out of canvas to allow filtered light to go through, I can see the canvas sagging and collecting water, getting dirty, etc.  Just looks bad, IMO

Maybe its some sort of plastic composite?


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Phishfan on January 11, 2010, 11:09:21 am
I don't foresee canvas as an option. Too much treatment to keep it waterproofed. I think it will be a hard surface.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Brian Fein on January 11, 2010, 11:13:01 am
I don't foresee canvas as an option. Too much treatment to keep it waterproofed. I think it will be a hard surface.
I would think a hard surface would be difficult to remove in the event of a hurricane.  A Canvas could be rolled up and stored pretty easily.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: fyo on January 11, 2010, 02:44:13 pm
I don't see anyone else bitching about it. Maybe it's just you?

I argued my position. Nice 5th grade rebuttal there.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Frimp on January 14, 2010, 09:29:45 pm
I hate it. If its glass or hard plastic, imagine how freaking hot its going to be in there.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 14, 2010, 09:32:38 pm
I hate it. If its glass or hard plastic, imagine how freaking hot its going to be in there.

As long as it's not clear, it will be cooler.  It's already unbearably hot as it is.  This will definitely cool it down.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Frimp on January 14, 2010, 09:46:26 pm
^^

If its glass or plastic, how could it cool it down? Greenhouse effect.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Brian Fein on January 14, 2010, 10:50:15 pm
It would keep the heat in.  Since hot air rises, it would be unbearable.  The "clearness" wouldn't block any sun, and it wouldn't allow the hot air to escape, but rather it would collect and what little breeze there is would never touch anyone.

The only way this works is if it is opaque and provides shade over the seats.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Dave Gray on January 15, 2010, 12:24:22 am
^^

If its glass or plastic, how could it cool it down? Greenhouse effect.

I said "as long as its not clear".


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Defense54 on February 06, 2010, 11:50:16 am
I just like the Idea of moving the fans closer to the field to disrupt opposing Teams. Make sure only Miami fans are down there and leave the Pats and Jets dirtbags up in the rafters and all will be very different come game day.  Think about it............When did Miami start to become a losing Franchise? Right after Joe Robbie was built in 1988. Coincidence? I think not.  All the energy and attitude went with the Orange Bowl. I think a newly designed "football only" stadium is just the edge we have been missing the past 22 years.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Frimp on February 08, 2010, 08:16:23 pm
I said "as long as its not clear".

The picture looks clear.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Dave Gray on February 08, 2010, 10:48:35 pm
It looks white to me.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Frimp on March 10, 2010, 05:10:10 pm
In this one, you can see the suspension towers through it. That's what I was referring to

(http://media.nbcmiami.com/images/600*450/bowl+view+new+no+field+club.jpg)


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Dave Gray on March 10, 2010, 11:50:08 pm
I heard something about this the other day - I don't remember where.  They were saying that these mock-up pictures are just something to help with funding.  ...that once funding comes through, they'll bring in a firm to work out all the kinks and aesthetics and stuff.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Phishfan on March 11, 2010, 08:46:13 am
I heard something about this the other day - I don't remember where.  They were saying that these mock-up pictures are just something to help with funding.  ...that once funding comes through, they'll bring in a firm to work out all the kinks and aesthetics and stuff.

Good luck with any funding going through. The Dolphins have stopped pursuing public funds because of the local economy and I don't know what the likelyhood of private money coming through is.


Title: Re: New Dolphins Stadium "roof" - Is this for real?
Post by: Defense54 on March 11, 2010, 12:15:27 pm
Good luck with any funding going through. The Dolphins have stopped pursuing public funds because of the local economy and I don't know what the likelyhood of private money coming through is.

Yep.  Heizinga is a master at knowing when to bow out.  ;)