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Title: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: ethurst22a on January 25, 2010, 08:40:15 am
Now I wish this record hound can just retire unless he's planned to break George Blanda's record for years in the league. Maybe he will become a punter for the next 7 years. You knew it was coming. Farve always throws the ill-advised pass at the wrong time. That pass was easy pickins for Porter.

He should hang em up, but knowing him, he'll be back for some kind of record.


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Brian Fein on January 25, 2010, 09:09:37 am
He'll retire shortly after the Super Bowl and then un-retire right after training camp ends.


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Denver_Bronco on January 25, 2010, 09:28:42 am
He'll retire shortly after the Super Bowl and then un-retire right after training camp ends.
QFT


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Sunstroke on January 25, 2010, 09:51:07 am

Unless any of you can answer the following question "yes," then this thread (and all dogging of Favre today) is patently goofy. The question is...

"Would Tarvaris Jackson have taken Minnesota any further than Brett Favre did this season?"

Exactly...the correct answer is:

"Tarvaris Jackson wouldn't have even gotten Minnesota TO the playoffs."




Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Denver_Bronco on January 25, 2010, 09:55:34 am
Favre absolutely played his guts out yesterday. I gained so much more respect for him after watching him being drilled repeatedly and standing in there and just eating it.

He deserves zero blame today.


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Sunstroke on January 25, 2010, 09:58:28 am

^^^ Maybe if Brett had signed with Denver, they might have made the playoffs...



Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on January 25, 2010, 10:02:27 am
Unless any of you can answer the following question "yes," then this thread (and all dogging of Favre today) is patently goofy. The question is...

"Would Tarvaris Jackson have taken Minnesota any further than Brett Favre did this season?"

Exactly...the correct answer is:

"Tarvaris Jackson wouldn't have even gotten Minnesota TO the playoffs."




Word.

I'm cheering for the Saints, but if Minnesota had won, I would've cheered for them.


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: CF DolFan on January 25, 2010, 10:14:23 am
I've always been a Favre fan because he is so tough. That and we are the same age!! Other than his "retirement" crap I have always liked him


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Phishfan on January 25, 2010, 10:15:27 am
Stroke, while I agree the Vikings definitely went further than they would have otherwise I have to disagree that they would not have made the playoffs without Favre. They were their division favorite even with Jackson. There are some stars on that team and while they would have lost something I bet they still would be in the playoffs.

That said, Geaux Saints. I am a Manning fan, but I would like to see something positive happen for the Saints.


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: CF DolFan on January 25, 2010, 10:18:04 am
I thought they brought in Sage to be their QB ths year?


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Brian Fein on January 25, 2010, 11:04:08 am
They did...

I have nothing against Favre other than this "retire-un-retire" charade we have to hear about every year.  Just say you don't wanna go to training camp.  Be up-front.  I'm sick of hearing about Favre, I'm glad we don't have to watch 2 weeks worth of BJ's from ESPN on Favre's jock.

The sports coverage people make us sick of Favre. 

Personally, I think he's a bit overrated.  For the amount of picks he throws, they call him a "gunslinger" but they would call someone else "terribly inaccurate."


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Phishfan on January 25, 2010, 11:08:04 am
Did anyone else find the poetuic justice or the Karma of the final play Favre made? His last throw as a Packer when we thought he would retire was an interception to end a game. Perhaps this interception to end the game was his final throw?


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Brian Fein on January 25, 2010, 11:30:55 am
His last throw as a Jet was also an interception.


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on January 25, 2010, 01:19:32 pm
BTW- Wasn't the "12 men in the huddle" penalty right before his INT? Only reason I bring it up is that on 3rd and 10, he wouldn't have had to have thrown as far as he did on 3rd and 15. Shame on the entire offense for that stupid blunder.


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: fyo on January 25, 2010, 01:30:10 pm
Some people claim that Favre's last int didn't matter, that it was essentially just a punt, since it was third and long and they were out of field goal range. I just think that, considering the total situation, it was 4-down territory. I'm not sure most coaches would have gone for it on 4th, but I think NOT doing it would've been a huge mistake.

Considering that it was 4-down territory, I also question the play-calling on that final Vikings drive. Especially since a field goal would've been almost as good as a touchdown.


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Brian Fein on January 25, 2010, 01:43:05 pm
Agree with Philly - the 12-man penalty was the killer.  What's worse is that Favre tried to call timeout to avoid the penalty - after coming out of a timeout. This would have been a delay of game penalty for calling 2 timeouts in a row, and they only had one timeout left which should have been saved to bring Longwell on at the end to try the winning FG.

That whole 3rd and 10 was a fiasco.  They should have run the ball up the middle, let the clock tick down to 3 seconds, called the timeout, and then kicked the potential game winner.  I wonder which of those 12 men wasn't supposed to be out there.... 


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: Denver_Bronco on January 26, 2010, 10:09:03 am
^^^ Maybe if Brett had signed with Denver, they might have made the playoffs...


I doubt it..... ;)


Title: Re: Farve giveth..Farve taketh away...
Post by: David Fulcher on January 26, 2010, 04:23:55 pm
Unless any of you can answer the following question "yes," then this thread (and all dogging of Favre today) is patently goofy. The question is...

"Would Tarvaris Jackson have taken Minnesota any further than Brett Favre did this season?"

Exactly...the correct answer is:

"Tarvaris Jackson wouldn't have even gotten Minnesota TO the playoffs.

Stroke, while I agree the Vikings definitely went further than they would have otherwise I have to disagree that they would not have made the playoffs without Favre. They were their division favorite even with Jackson. There are some stars on that team and while they would have lost something I bet they still would be in the playoffs.

That said, Geaux Saints. I am a Manning fan, but I would like to see something positive happen for the Saints.

Well, while I hate to be a b*tch here, I guess I'm gonna have to be.  :D I mean, Minnesota DID make the playoffs just this past season with Tarvaris at the helm.  They did get knocked out in the first round at home against a good Philly team, and I do agree with Phish that they likely went further with Brett than they could've with Tarvaris (or Sage for that matter), but the fact still remains that just the season before they did win some games with Tarvaris...or maybe it was usually in spite of him.   :D

I'm of the opinion that they would've won the division again with Jackson at QB, but they probably wouldn't have gotten a bye and either lost in the first round again or won that game but gotten beaten by the 1 or 2 seed in the next round.  Pure speculation, obviously, but hey!  It's a free country, isn't it?  ;D

As an *aside*, I do agree with others talking about how Farve's toughness impressed them the other day.  I always knew the guy was a tough SOB, but he still managed to impress me Sunday night.  The INT definitely hurt, but the penalty hurt more because even with Longwell's leg, I think it put them at a point on the field where they couldn't just run another one into the line and expect Longwell to just bang it home, even in the 'Dome.