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Title: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: jtex316 on February 24, 2010, 10:42:59 am
Which Dolphins Player was the most under-rated to you?

I have a few that pop-up in my brain.

Dick Anderson - Of all of the Dolphins' lore players, when was the last time you heard anyone talking about Dick Anderson? He was a very under-rated DB and a defensive field general.

Jay Fielder - Everyone hates jay Fielder. Guess what? He's the best QB you've had since Dan Marino, including your current QB line-up. He was successful as a starting QB, very intelligent, and played his ass off. No natural talent, but a lot of desire and passion for the NFL game. And for his team. He got the blame when the idiots around him sucked, and got run out of town because of it. A casualty of a situation that was about to go very bad. And did you know he is former NY Knicks player Anthony Mason's step-brother (or half-brother)? Yeah that's very strange to me too.

Tim Ruddy - I think he started like 100 games in a row or something like that? You never really heard anything bad about Ruddy, which for an O-Lineman, that's high praise. And, for a period of time, he looked like Fausto (I'm not even kidding).

That is all for now. How about you?


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 24, 2010, 10:46:14 am
who stole jtex's computer? 


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: Tepop84 on February 24, 2010, 11:38:27 am
I agree with Jay Fielder.  Look at his record as the starting qb vs. the people who were brought in to replace him (griese, lucas...)  He knew what it took to win the game. 


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: Sunstroke on February 24, 2010, 01:13:36 pm

Joe Toledo...

(Mark my words...he'll be back!) ;D



Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: ToticoLicker on February 24, 2010, 02:16:48 pm
Harry Galbreath.  That guy was a beast at guard back in the old Shula days.  Then the Packers gave him big money in free agency and off he went.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: Dave Gray on February 24, 2010, 02:22:53 pm
Reggie Roby.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: Tenshot13 on February 24, 2010, 02:23:34 pm
Brock Marion.  I feel he was always overshadowed by Surtain and Madison, but was a great ball-hawking safety.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: Defense54 on February 24, 2010, 07:06:36 pm
Oronde Gadsden.........he made Jay fielder look good.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: ethurst22a on February 24, 2010, 11:43:53 pm
DB Curtis Johnson - Curtis Johnson holds the Dolphin Rookie record with 6 picks, was a hell of a special teams player (returned two blocked kicks for TD's and almost NEVER got beat on game day. Johnson's assignment in practice was covering Paul Warfield. Enough said.

When Jake Scott and Curtis Johnson went out with injuries in the Sea of Hands game, Oakland attacked them down the middle of the field and with Cliff Branch.

DB Dick Anderson - I agree with Jtex. Anderson and Jake Scott should be in the HOF. Anderson had amazing range for a DB.

QB Jay Fiedler - for the life of me, I don't understand all the hate for Jay Fiedler. Marino threw pick sixes and interceptions. Jay was tough. He played that first year with a torn rotator cuff and had to hand the ball off akwardly to Lamar Smith.

Chan Gailey knew what Fielder was effective at and what he wasn't which led to an 11-5 record that first year.  If Fieldler had not got hurt in that classic game in Denver, I'm sure that Miami would have made it to the AFC Championship.

T Jon Giesler - Jon Giesler was a tackle that just overpowered you. He played on those early 80's Super Bowl teams. When Giesler made a block, he would push the guy six years downfield.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: fyo on February 25, 2010, 07:58:30 am
QB Jay Fiedler - for the life of me, I don't understand all the hate for Jay Fiedler.

Was Fiedler really hated though? Or was it just fans being frustrated with the front office being completely sold on him? If you have a good-but-not-great quarterback, you should be working seriously to find a new one. And you could argue that even if you have a great one, you should probably still be seriously looking into a backup. It only takes one play.

I don't recall people blaming Fiedler as much as they were blaming Wannestedt for being married to the guy.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: bsfins on February 25, 2010, 11:46:52 am
^^^ Nope, I hated Jay Fiedler also....


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: JVides on February 25, 2010, 12:58:41 pm
How about Bernie Parmalee?  UPS driver makes the roster, plays special teams for a few years, then becomes the starter at running back for a couple of years.

All that for an undrafted guy from Ball State.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: doctord56 on February 25, 2010, 01:06:16 pm
I'd say Jon Giesler, a forgotten yet superb left OT....he never got the love Richmond Webb did, and never gained serious consideration for the ring of honor. But he protected Griese, Strock, Woodley, and a young Dan Marino like a suit of armor from 1979 to 1988 in his 10 year career, starting 105 games.  During the days of all the Marc Gastineau hype of the "New York Sack Exchange", Giesler would own and shut down the loudmouth preening Gastineau.

A terrific and largely forgotten Offensive line cornerstone player of the 1980's fins.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: bsfins on February 25, 2010, 02:05:32 pm
good call Jvides...May not have been great....but I like the suggestion


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on February 25, 2010, 03:13:07 pm
Jay Fiedler?!

Did you guys ever see him throw?  Like, you know, how a quarterback is supposed to?  His win/loss percentage means nothing.  Trent Dilfer won the Super Bowl, so is he an underrated QB or one that just happened to play on a team with an awesome defense and solid running game?  I'm going to go with the latter for both Dilfy and Fiedler. 

In fact, I vividly remember everytime Jay would drop back to pass I'd immediately think "interception".  Most of the time I was wrong since most of the time it landed incomplete.  More times than I would like though, I was right.

Better than Henne?   ::)


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: CF DolFan on February 25, 2010, 05:51:57 pm
Jim "Crash" Jensen.  I stold this from his website as it says it better than I.

August 12, 2006-As perhaps the most versatile player in the National Football League throught his 12-year career, Jim Jensen's value to his football team was not lost on his teammates. As a result, the jack-of-all-trades in his era has earned the 2006 Miami Dolphins Unsung Hero Award. Jensen was chosen by vote of the Miami Dolphins Alumni Association from five finalists, which included Oronde Gadsden, O.J. McDuffie, Louis Oliver and Bernie Parmalee. The finalists were determined from a list of 41 nominees by a fan vote on MiamiDolphins.com.

The Unsung Hero Award was established in 2004 to honor a former Dolphins player who might not haved recieved the recognition he deserved during his playing days. Previous winners were Tony Nathan in 2005 and Earl Morral in 2004.

"The one thing that a lot of people saw was that Jim was very versatile," said Alumni Association President Larry Seiple, who was a part of the Dolphins coaching staff from 1988-99 after playing for the team from 1966-77. "He was the backup quarterback, he played receiver, running back and even filled in at tight end. He couldn't settle on one thing so he did a lot of different things and made a lot of big plays. Jim is very deserving of this award."

From 1981-92, Jensen played every skill position on offense, while also excelling on special teams in multiple roles, including holder and deep snapper. His style of play on those units earned him the nickname "Crash". The Boston University product ranks ninth all-time in Dolphins history with 2,171 recieving yards. His 12 receptions at New England on Nov. 6, 1988 was a team record that stood until last season


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: doctord56 on February 25, 2010, 10:44:15 pm
I don't think Jensen was under-rated during his playing days...he was a hugely popular fan favorite, and at the time perceived as a highly valuable clutch player, the overachieving tough guy with great hands who caught the 9 yard pass on 3rd and 7 to keep a drive alive.

A wonderful player, fun to watch, but not under-rated or under-appreciated.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: BigDaddyFin on March 08, 2010, 06:04:03 pm
OJ McDuffie.  Mr. Third Down, our best reciever during the lost years of 1996-2007, Only Dolphin to ever win a recieving title.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: bsfins on March 12, 2010, 07:21:07 pm
I've got afairly recent on...Tim Bowens Played his entire 10 Career as a Dolphin, made the probowl twice,but survived 3 different coaching regimes.


Title: Re: Most Under-Rated Dolphins Player? (All-Time)
Post by: JVides on March 13, 2010, 02:08:11 pm
I've got afairly recent on...Tim Bowens Played his entire 10 Career as a Dolphin, made the probowl twice,but survived 3 different coaching regimes.

I loved TimBo...nice call...