Title: Dolphins needs Post by: raptorsfan29 on March 05, 2010, 04:40:19 pm What are the dolphins needs going into this offseason?
Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 05, 2010, 04:52:32 pm Pulled from the Draft thread, where the last bit of chatter has all been about the Phins' needs:
^^^ I agree with those positions being need positions, but I consider ILB to be at the other end of the row. I'd probably lay it out as ILB > WR > NT > OLB > FS Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Doc-phin on March 06, 2010, 11:40:48 am What are the dolphins needs going into this offseason? I would say WR (veteran), NT (draft), Free Safety (Veteran and/or Draft), Running Back (fast guy-likely draft), Tight End (unless Nalbone is ready) and possibly a veteran corner on a short term contract. Otherwise any position upgrade would be fine besides QB, Corner, FB and Strong safety. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: dolfan13 on March 07, 2010, 08:15:01 am given ferguson is now suspended for the first 8 games in 2010, i think nt becomes the biggest priority right now. followed probably by finding a capable fs.
feels like the fins need an extra first round pick now. any ronnie takers? Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 07, 2010, 11:09:51 am given ferguson is now suspended for the first 8 games in 2010, i think nt becomes the biggest priority right now... feels like the fins need an extra first round pick now... I think that the moment Miami signed Dansby, NT became the biggest priority, especially given the talent at the top of this year's NT class. Not sure how this makes you feel like we need a second first rounder now though... If the Phins grab a NT at #12...and I think they will (Dan Williams) now that ILB is addressed, then they've addressed the top two needs before getting out of round one already. Hell, with apologies if I'm being redundant, if we could somehow lure Brandon Marshall down here for our second rounder, we'll have added massive talent at 3 of the 4 primary need positions this offseason, and could spend the middle-late rounds grabbing talented safeties and OL beef. I'd like to say one other thing that might chuck a wrench at the monkey... When we drafted Sean Smith last year, I made it clear that I saw as a good corner who had the potential, due to his specific tools, to become a very good NFL free safety. If Miami starts grabbing corners instead of safeties in the rd 3-4 area, I might not be unhappy either. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Defense54 on March 07, 2010, 11:11:10 pm More Ice Cream Vendors on the Upper levels. Last game I missed about 10 minutes of the 3rd quarter getting a fucking Cup for my kid. >:(
Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Tenshot13 on March 07, 2010, 11:54:47 pm So it's looking like FS might not be a need. Ryan Clark from the Steelers is almost a lock to sign with the phins. I'm also seeing Daren Sharper, but Clark seems more realistic. It's all on NFL.com
Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: BigDaddyFin on March 08, 2010, 06:11:59 pm NT-Ferguson is on his last leg and suspended to boot. I thought he was a free agent did he resign?
S- Get one with experience to go along with Clemmons. We must be strong up the middle if we're going to run a 3-4. OLB (tie)- I'd really like it if we had another proven run-stopping linebacker to play the strong-side. Wake is an above average pass rusher, I'm still not sold on how he'll play the run although I'm sure he'll improve. Charlie Anderson could be capable of filling this role. ILB (tie)- We have Dansby, but I'd like to see us get another hungry bastard like a Zach Thomas to play next to him and really plug the middle. WR- Maybe get one because I'm not sold on Ginn yet but not ready to kick him out of town. RB- Only if Ronnie skips town in a trade/FA Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: bsfins on March 08, 2010, 07:12:37 pm Ryan Clark from the Steelers is almost a lock to sign with the phins. I'm reading ESPN twitter that He's resigned with the Steelers. Looks like were still looking for a FS Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Tenshot13 on March 09, 2010, 08:13:13 am Ya, I saw that. Oh well. Sharper would be cool to have for a season, and I'm sure he could teach Clemons a thing or two.
Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Fred Finstoned on March 09, 2010, 08:53:34 am I've been drinking the Kool-Aid again;
Lets trade Penny( or insert Brown) and maybe a late round pick to pick up and early first round pick. It has been rumored that Detroit might want out of their pick. Grabb Eric Berry he can play just about any DB position and should be a play maker/game changer! Give our first round pick to the Broncos for Marshall give Chad someone to throw to.(play maker) We should be able to get a good young NT in round 2 / a Geno Atkins, Lamarr Houston, Cam Thomas or maybe if he falls Terrence Cody(if you kick him in the ass to keep him going!) As far as OLB we should be able to let the Tuna work his magic and get some help in the late rounds! This would give us a young talented defense. The addition of Marshall would give Henne some help.Line him and Ginn up on the conners, Bess in the slot, just let Ginn run deep ever time! Would keep defenses honest and open up our run game! Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Phishfan on March 09, 2010, 09:07:55 am I've been drinking the Kool-Aid again; Lets trade Penny( or insert Brown) and maybe a late round pick to pick up and early first round pick. It has been rumored that Detroit might want out of their pick. Grabb Eric Berry he can play just about any DB position and should be a play maker/game changer! Give our first round pick to the Broncos for Marshall give Chad someone to throw to.(play maker) We should be able to get a good young NT in round 2 / a Geno Atkins, Lamarr Houston, Cam Thomas or maybe if he falls Terrence Cody(if you kick him in the ass to keep him going!) As far as OLB we should be able to let the Tuna work his magic and get some help in the late rounds! This would give us a young talented defense. The addition of Marshall would give Henne some help.Line him and Ginn up on the conners, Bess in the slot, just let Ginn run deep ever time! Would keep defenses honest and open up our run game! I think you drank more than Kool-Aid. I don't see any incentive for Detroit to trade for either of those players, especially for a first round pick. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Fred Finstoned on March 09, 2010, 09:22:16 am I just threw Detroit out there. Penny could start on a few of the teams over us.He is a proven QB with the ability to mentor a young QB.It was rumored that Detroit did not want to pick 2nd.
Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 09, 2010, 09:26:38 am No one is going to trade a high first round pick for any deal that has Pennington or Brown as a key piece of our side of the trade. Zero chance... Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Defense54 on March 09, 2010, 12:53:25 pm Maybe we can rape the Redskins 1 more time........ ;D
Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 09, 2010, 01:19:22 pm Maybe we can rape the Redskins 1 more time........ ;D Nah, that train has left the station...Daniel Snyder gave personnel control over to Shanny this offseason. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Defense54 on March 09, 2010, 02:10:38 pm Dang. The Dolphins don't give away picks anymore either. Are there NO moronic NFL Teams anymore!!? ;D
Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 09, 2010, 06:41:27 pm Posted this in an anti-fins thread a minute ago, but wanted to put it in here so I could go back and gloat afterwards about my keen vision of the future<g>...I'd never remember it in the anti-fins, as I hardly ever visit that area. It fits this thread just as well. * I really think, barring an impact FA signing prior to the draft, Miami is going to positionally go the following draft direction...(with players named being for "if I could drop a dollar at astronomical odds" purposes only): #12: NT (Dan Williams, Tennessee) #43: FS or OLB (Nate Allen, USF or Ricky Sapp, Clemson) #73: Whichever of the FS/OLB that didn't get taken in rd 2( FS Reshad Jones, Georgia, OLB Navarro Bowman) #107: WR (Danario Alexander, Missouri, Demaryius Thomas, Ga Tech) After: O and D-line, drafted by the pound, with more of a taste for higher upside beef from smaller schools. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 10, 2010, 06:04:25 pm I like how you're thinking Stroke. I see it the same way, except with a few minor tweeks... 1 - NT (Dan Williams)...he may not be available with the Bills and Broncos ahead of us, so OLB (Jason Pierre-Paul) 2- WR (Benn, Tate) OR NT if not taken in the first (Cody or Cam Thomas). I also wouldn't be upset with FS Nate Allen because of my USF homerism. 3 - OLB ( Koa Missi (sp?), Ricky Sapp) if not taken in the first OR FS (Rashad Jones even though I don't think he'll fall that far...I think he's gone in the second round). 4 - go with the best available talent, whether it fills a need or not. I would love nothing more than for Ricky Sapp to last til rd 3, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it unless I thought I looked good in blue. I've now seen Pierre-Paul mocked to the Dolphins and 49ers both a number of different times...methinks I'll get the opportunity to cheer for him next season. More shopping at the Bull Market... The more film I viddy on Nate Allen, the more I like this kid. He makes smart decisions in coverage and is as tough as his college mascot. I'd take him on either SF or Miami in a second. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Defense54 on March 12, 2010, 09:16:06 am Posted this in an anti-fins thread a minute ago, but wanted to put it in here so I could go back and gloat afterwards about my keen vision of the future<g>...I'd never remember it in the anti-fins, as I hardly ever visit that area. It fits this thread just as well. * I really think, barring an impact FA signing prior to the draft, Miami is going to positionally go the following draft direction...(with players named being for "if I could drop a dollar at astronomical odds" purposes only): #12: NT (Dan Williams, Tennessee) #43: FS or OLB (Nate Allen, USF or Ricky Sapp, Clemson) #73: Whichever of the FS/OLB that didn't get taken in rd 2( FS Reshad Jones, Georgia, OLB Navarro Bowman) #107: WR (Danario Alexander, Missouri, Demaryius Thomas, Ga Tech) After: O and D-line, drafted by the pound, with more of a taste for higher upside beef from smaller schools. I like it. we need a anchor at that NT posistion badly. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 12, 2010, 09:23:22 am We've got the Holy mock trinity all on board with Williams... Kiper, McShay and Walterfootball.com all have him landing in Miami at #12 in their most recent draft. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Defense54 on March 12, 2010, 09:46:49 am We've got the Holy mock trinity all on board with Williams... Kiper, McShay and Walterfootball.com all have him landing in Miami at #12 in their most recent draft. Oh boy.......that usually means it ain't gonna happen. But as long as they don't reach for a fast punt returner with a nice family , I'm ok with it. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 12, 2010, 10:19:29 am We've got the Holy mock trinity all on board with Williams... Kiper, McShay and Walterfootball.com all have him landing in Miami at #12 in their most recent draft. Then it is an absolute lock that the Dolphin's won't draft Williams! Put all the eligible player in a hat and randomly draw names and you will be just as accurate as these guys. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 12, 2010, 12:06:49 pm It's easy to throw pot shots at mock drafters, but WalterFootball is usually as accurate as any mock site on the web. If I have some time this weekend, I'll break down the players in the first round last year (or last couple of years) who were mocked unanimously by all three and how many ended up getting selected by that team. I'd bet it's a relatively high number for a mock projection. Dan Williams will be a Miami Dolphin in April...this is my call, and it is beyond mocking. ;D Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Tenshot13 on March 12, 2010, 01:50:45 pm We've got the Holy mock trinity all on board with Williams... Kiper, McShay and Walterfootball.com all have him landing in Miami at #12 in their most recent draft. Actually, Walterfootball.com has us taking Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida. I'm happy with him or Dan Williams. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 12, 2010, 02:52:06 pm Aha! That must have changed recently...I saw Dan Williams there last week. I agree with you though...I'd have no problem with either Miami or SF taking Pierre Paul, though I think Miami's bigger need at this point is a dominant NT. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Tenshot13 on March 12, 2010, 03:54:00 pm Aha! That must have changed recently...I saw Dan Williams there last week. I agree, but I think JPP COULD be the most dominant DE/OLB in this draft, while there isn't that much a drop off from Dan Williams to Terrence Cody to Cam Thomas.I agree with you though...I'd have no problem with either Miami or SF taking Pierre Paul, though I think Miami's bigger need at this point is a dominant NT. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: JVides on March 12, 2010, 04:18:46 pm I know this is later in the draft, but where is Dolfan-dom on Myron Rolle for the hole at free safety? I like his size, speed, hitting, etc...plus, he's an incredibly bright guy; no Jason Allen type problems picking up the defense, for sure. Would you pick him up in the third or fourth round?
Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: Sunstroke on March 12, 2010, 06:24:55 pm I know this is later in the draft, but where is Dolfan-dom on Myron Rolle for the hole at free safety? I like his size, speed, hitting, etc...plus, he's an incredibly bright guy; no Jason Allen type problems picking up the defense, for sure. Would you pick him up in the third or fourth round? I rate Rolle higher than most are mocking him...I think intelligence is a key tool for the free safety position, and when you combine that with his physical gifts (god bless a good athletic gene pool), I see him being that guy who might take a season to get himself up to NFL speed, but will develop into a very good starting safety. Like Pierre-Paul, both teams I love need safety help, and I would love to see Rolle on either team when training camp starts. Title: Re: Dolphins needs Post by: JVides on March 13, 2010, 05:11:22 pm ^^^It amazes me that NFL teams are "worried" he may retire early and pursue medicine. When the average player only lasts 3 seasons in the NFL, should that really be a top concern?
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