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For a 5th round pick. The jets continue to extend the gap between themselves and Miami. Hey fat tuna feel free to your job and stop sleeping at the wheel. The jets front office is just embarrasing miami's right now.

The Dolphins continue to be stuck on stupid.

Santonio Holmes is a Jet. Let the footballs fly. I don't buy this character issue thing. All teams have characters on it. A great head coach can put his foot down and control characters and if they don't work out, show them the door or suspend them. If Rex Ryan has the backing of management as far as player conduct, I don't see Holmes being a problem.

Every team in the AFC East has a legitimate deep threat except Miami. Not unless they are depending on Ronnie Brown to play receiver, quarterback, running back or tight end. The Dolphins at this time have no choice but to draft Dez Bryant or swing a deal for Brandon Marshall. That's the only redeeming quality they have.

Don Shula had characters (Jake Scott, Mercury Morris and Bryan Cox) on his team and he was able to channel that attitude to the field. We'll see if Rex Ryan can do that.

I'm not a Jet fan but this is the first time in 40 plus years that the front office looks like they know what they are doing.

Dustin Keller, Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes. Miami better get Vontae Davis and Sean Smith some reinforcements.

Knew I was right in thinking this belonged in the anti-fins section, rather than "Around the NFL"...

 GoCowboys to Parcells = Tepop to Ronnie Brown

It would certainly appear that we trail the Jets in the personel department. I certainly hope that isn't the case.

^^^ Yeah, but if Miami had signed Santonio, GoCowboys would have simply adjusted his post to dog Parcells for bringing in a guy with off the field issues.

You just have to be able to spot the chronic complainers and filter accordingly...

Agreed w/ GC and Ethurst. 3 years later Miami still has shitload of holes to fill, and 3 years later NY is looking at a division title, playoffs, and possibly more.  Jesus...  At least we have a lot of nice guys on our team...

^^^ Three years ago, Miami and the Jets weren't sitting in the same position, as the Jets already had begun replacing their old talent with young studs. Expecting Miami to be at the same stage now as New York would seem a little naive.

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Dude, Miami's been "rebuilding" since Wannstedt left. And 3 years ago Miami started "rebuilding" again. Regardless of the coaching staff, all we have to show for it is Ronnie Brown and Jake Long? Sorry brother, just frustrating.

Holmes has 1 year left on his contract and there's no extension. He'll almost certainly be sitting out the first 4 games of the season, so this is essentially an 8-game deal.

Would you give our 5th round pick for 8 games of Santonio Holmes?

Not sure I would. (Wouldn't be strongly against it, though).

I agree...it's frustrating, but you're oversimplifying our assets in order to feel badly about things, and that just seems wrong. I think both of the 2nd year CBs should be listed there, as should some of our young D-line. You don't list Henne as an asset already in-hand, but I see him as exactly that.

I'm not seeing your glass as half empty at all...but I don't see it as full as the Jets' mug, which it shouldn't be, as they started on their current rebuilding job before we did, and thus have a bit of a head start.

the jets are simply signing "name" players in order to excite their fan base over the sale of the expensive psl's to their new stadium.

santonio is a good player, but the steelers wanted to get rid of him so bad they practically gave him away. lt2 is sooo classy that he literally threw the entire san diego organization under the bus on his way out. looking to add taylor to the mix as well...

so far the jets offseason strategy is to stock up on as many selfish, name recognition players as possible.

ESPN is saying that Holmes was suspended for the first 4 games, so FYO was right- this is an 8 game rental.

Plus, if he fails any other tests, he's gone for a season. We all saw how that worked out for the Fins with a certain RB, so maybe they decided not to touch that.

ESPN also stated that the Steelers called EVERY team, but no other teams had interest due to the off the field issues.

In my opinion this is a lot like the Dolphins signing Ferguson.  He wouldn't count against the 53 roster for the first 4 weeks.  After 4 weeks you will likely have a player on IR or realize one of your 53 isn't worth keeping around.  If after 4 weeks the other 53 are solid and you don't see Holmes improving the team you cut him then. 

you guys are smoking something good if you don't think the jets are clearly going to the superbowl this year.  holmes, LT, edwards, JT.....it makes me want to cry so badly  :'(

Two guys who are washed up, two guys that are inconsistent and a locker room cancer?  Ya, I'm real scared.

look what they did last year.  they also added a top 20 CB to across from the best CB in the league.  sanchez is going to light it up this year; he was great as a rookie.

I don't think "anyone" is "clearly" going to the Super Bowl, but I do believe the Jets improved an already talented enough roster this offseason to be considered a primary contender.

This is the NFL though, so there is no "clearly" involved in the equation. ;)

Holmes is suspended for the first 4 games but the Jets should win those games with the firepower they already have. Don't know what the games are yet, but with their head in the right place, they can do damage.

IMO Holmes got shipped out of town because of the naked picture surfacing on the Internet. That was the last straw. The Rooney Family is a very classy family which believes in values and morals. You can be tough but have some class. I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers are already making plans to replace Big Ben.

I find it hard to believe  the Jets were the only team interested in Holmes, Santonio, not John. And for a fifth round pick? The Jets probably have incentives and fines stated in his contract called the "Naked Gun" clause (no pun intended).

So a lot is being made of the character issue but check this out, how many of us between 18-28 just did stupid stuff? Around 27 or 28 is when you start mellowing out and Holmes is approaching that age.  If the Jets adopt a circus environment under Rex Ryan (which is easy to do) then acquiring all this talent means nothing. But if the environment is balanced which every man is accountable, the Jets are dangerous.

John Madden has one of the highest winning percentages in football and he had plenty of players with character issues. Stabler, Tatum, Atkinson, Ted Hendricks, Alzado, the list goes on and on but Madden was also a demanding coach. Madden knew what buttons to push and when and, got on players when they were goofing off too much.

I don't get Parcells. He won two Super Bowls with players that had questionable character. I don't know what's going on in Davie or whether this is a six year rebuilding process by the Dolphins instead of a three year rebuilding process.

If you set your angst filters to maximum, the previous post actually only contains a sentence and a half.

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Hey Stroke,

Its about time that Dolphin observers give the Jet front office some credit. I applaud any team that is trying to make a move. I might just go have a beer with Fireman Ed.Jets haven't been this loaded since the early 1980's.

All this move does is really make me think that Tannenbaum and the Jets have very little confidence in their ability to draft talent.

Nothing about Holmes impresses me, this was not a very good move IMO.

But I will say that they have made several other moves that I did like.

What people seem to forget is that I've been giving the stinkin' Jets credit for their moves all along. I can point to multiple posts up here and multiple spots on the radio show where I repeatedly warned Dolphins fans to watch out for what the Jets have cooking, because I can see the talent oozing out the edges.

I just don't feel the need to dog Parcells for not being as aggressive on questionable players as the Jets have been, and I don't see an accurate parallel between Miami and the Jets in regards to their current position in the "franchise rebuilding" progression.

Come on, the jets aren't that good.  The only reason they made the playoffs last year was because the colts sat out the second half against them. They were 9-7 last year.  People who are putting them in the playoffs already this year are retarded.

At least call me mentally challenged!  The Superbowl is a bit of a stretch, but making the playoffs is definately within reason (if not likely).

I'd say the Jets making the playoffs is likely, just based on the talent contained on their roster, and the youth at key positions that is still developing and improving.

I sure hope they don't though...nothing would make me happier than to see the Jets go through a gauntlet of lousy fluke breaks, like Sanchez announcing that he's leaving the NFL to join the Ice Capades, or Coach Ryan mistaking Darrelle Revis for a fajita and accidentally eating his star corner.

I was mostly referring to people on other websites.

I'm with 'stroke on this one: The Jets are scary.

Here's hoping for a serious sophomore slump from The Sanchize ;)