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Title: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 04, 2010, 08:13:32 pm
NFL trival what do these four men have in common?

Bill Belichick as a headcoach
Tony Dungy  as a headcoach
Mort Anderson
Brett Favre

These four have done something nobody else had done (at least I think they are the only 4).

What have they done? 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: jtex316 on August 04, 2010, 10:19:00 pm
Well - I'm pretty sure that they are not the only 4 (there are probably several others), but these four men have "Going to the Super Bowl with their 2nd team (chronologically)" in common.

Follow the logic and you'll get what I mean:

Brett Favre's 1st team: Atlanta
Super Bowl: Green Bay (2nd team)

Mort Anderson's 1st team: New Orelans
Super Bowl: Atlanta (2nd team)

Bill Belichick 1st head coach team: Cleveland
Super Bowl: Patriots (2nd team)

Tony Dungy 1st head coach team: Tampa Bay
Super Bowl: Indy (2nd team)


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 04, 2010, 10:26:59 pm
^^^ that is not what I had in mind, and you are right there are probably others -- Eli Manning comes to mind, although he was on the Chargers for even less time than BB was head coach of the Jets. 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: Phishfan on August 05, 2010, 09:33:21 am
I have no idea, but since Eli never signed in San Diego does he count as being on the team? I would say he needs to sign a contract first.


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 05, 2010, 09:42:05 am
I have no idea, but since Eli never signed in San Diego does he count as being on the team? I would say he needs to sign a contract first.

You're probably right. 

3 hints for the trivia.

1. Mort achieved this milestone first.
2. Belichick and Dungy achieved this milestone on the same day.
3. Farve would never have achieved this milestone as a Packer and didn't have a chance when he was on the Jets.
 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: fyo on August 05, 2010, 09:52:49 am
NFL trival what do these four men have in common?

Bill Belichick as a headcoach
Tony Dungy  as a headcoach
Mort Anderson
Brett Favre

These four have done something nobody else had done (at least I think they are the only 4).

What have they done? 

Beat all 32 teams?

Favre did it when he beat the Pack last year and I know Dungy was the first HC to do it. I'm assuming Mort is Morten Andersen, the kicker, and while I don't know for sure if he did, it seems likely considering his long (and successful) career with multiple teams. Belichick could have done it as well, considering the success the Pats have had under him -- and he did win quite a few games as HC of the Browns (although with a sub .500 record). The Browns and Patriots are both AFC teams, of course, but considering the number of seasons he's been a HC, he could've beat all 32 (he did at least beat the Patriots).


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: fyo on August 05, 2010, 09:53:36 am
I'd like to point out that I was slow typing my guess and didn't see Hoodie's hints until after I had posted :p


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 05, 2010, 10:14:58 am
Fyo is correct. 

While Dungy was the first.  Both BB and TD did it on the same day.  Colts had a 1 pm game, Patriots had a 4 pm game.  On that same day Brady and Manning joined the ranks of having beaten all 31 teams not their own. BB's first win as a HC was against the Patriots.   


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: jtex316 on August 05, 2010, 11:32:37 am
Can a kicker be considered to "beating" all 32 NFL teams? A head coach and a QB, yeah...but a kicker?


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 05, 2010, 12:00:36 pm
Can a kicker be considered to "beating" all 32 NFL teams? A head coach and a QB, yeah...but a kicker?

I would say any player that was active for game day and played at least one down could be considered on the winning side. 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: fyo on August 05, 2010, 02:19:21 pm
Can a kicker be considered to "beating" all 32 NFL teams? A head coach and a QB, yeah...but a kicker?

Kicker's aren't the most important players on the team, but hardly the LEAST important either.

That said, I'm with Hoodie, any player "on the team" counts.


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 06, 2010, 12:23:08 pm
I was checking on something else and just realized with a win over the Texans, Steelers and Dolphins (and the Jets play all three this year) as certain defensive end could be joining their ranks. 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: jtex316 on August 06, 2010, 12:43:12 pm
I was checking on something else and just realized with a win over the Texans, Steelers and Dolphins (and the Jets play all three this year) as certain defensive end could be joining their ranks. 

I want this "certain defensive end" to have beaten everyone except the Dolphins and then the media and game-day announcers to talk about it to no end when the Jets play the Dolphins, and for the Jets to be successful.


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 06, 2010, 12:53:42 pm
I want this "certain defensive end" to have beaten everyone except the Dolphins and then the media and game-day announcers to talk about it to no end when the Jets play the Dolphins, and for the Jets to be successful.

Can't happen that way.  At least not this year.  Both Dolphin games are before the Steelers.  Dolphins could win both games this year, Jets beat Steelers and Texans and then it happen next year. 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: dolphins4life on August 07, 2010, 01:53:04 am
Kerry Collins would have achieved the feat if he had beaten the fish this year


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 07, 2010, 01:38:22 pm
An interesting question for which I have no answer is as anyone been on the losing side of all 32 teams?  Would be almost impossible for a QB or coach to pull that off as if you lost that often you wouldn't have the logevity necessary.  But a good player in other positions particularly punter or kicker on a couple of really sucky teams might be able to pull it off.   


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: Landshark on August 07, 2010, 04:31:50 pm
I was checking on something else and just realized with a win over the Texans, Steelers and Dolphins (and the Jets play all three this year) as certain defensive end could be joining their ranks. 

Take out the Steelers and you'd be correct.  The Dolphins beat the Steelers in 98 with JT starting at DE. 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 07, 2010, 04:58:50 pm
not according to

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylJa03/gamelog/


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: David Fulcher on August 07, 2010, 05:04:18 pm
not according to

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylJa03/gamelog/

Hoodie, I think Landshark might still be right because from looking at your referenced table/gamelog, that thing is only keeping track of *major* stats for a defensive player such as sacks, INT's, and maybe FF's/FR's...it doesn't even have tackles recorded on there.  I know that Jason played a full season of 16 games several of those seasons and yet not all 16 games are listed for some of those seasons.  So, Jason very well could have played and even started in that 1998 game against Pittsburgh and it not be in that Pro Football Reference gamelog if he didn't register a sack, INT, or maybe FF/FR (can't remember if those were on there or not).


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 07, 2010, 05:14:38 pm
if you say so.  you would have better recollection of his play time from the 90s than me. 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: David Fulcher on August 07, 2010, 05:25:42 pm
if you say so.  you would have better recollection of his play time from the 90s than me. 

I would hope so.  ;)


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 08, 2010, 05:16:02 am
Jason Taylor played in 16 games in 1998:

http://www.nfl.com/players/jasontaylor/careerstats?id=TAY338550

So cross the Steelers off of that list.

P.S. Lest you be inclined to think that those 16 games might have included the playoffs, check Tom Brady's NFL.com profile (http://www.nfl.com/players/careerstats?id=BRA371156).  16 games per year, even in playoff years.


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 08, 2010, 08:19:14 am
^^^ then Jtex could get his wish if the Dolphins win the first match up and then the Jets beat the Texans and win the second match up. 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: Phishfan on August 09, 2010, 08:58:38 am
This isn't the first time we have found an issues with that reference site (I can't remember the other, but it wasn;t too long ago). You may want to find a new source.


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: Landshark on August 09, 2010, 01:43:18 pm
This isn't the first time we have found an issues with that reference site (I can't remember the other, but it wasn;t too long ago). You may want to find a new source.

I'm a business professor at a North Florida community college.  Situations like this are exactly why I don't allow my students to use answer or reference sites as sources when they're working on papers.  Most reference/answer sites can be easily edited and are not considered scholarly sources.


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 15, 2010, 06:03:18 pm
I'm a business professor at a North Florida community college.  Situations like this are exactly why I don't allow my students to use answer or reference sites as sources when they're working on papers.  Most reference/answer sites can be easily edited and are not considered scholarly sources.

I am not writing my doctoral thesis or filing a brief with the supreme court...we are discussing triva on a football forum. 

I would not use such a source if the info really mattered. 


Title: Re: NFL trival what do these four men have in common?
Post by: Landshark on August 16, 2010, 01:30:09 pm
I am not writing my doctoral thesis or filing a brief with the supreme court...we are discussing triva on a football forum. 

I would not use such a source if the info really mattered. 

Regardless of whether it really matters or not, your source turned out to be misleading.  You need to use more reliable sources, son.