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I'm not too concerned about this.  I actually had a feeling.  Boston is a good team.  The HEAT couldn't hit a jump shot to save their lives, they got no calls (expected on the road) and the superstars passed sloppily.  ...all that said, they still were in the game in the last minute.

There is work to be done, and missing Mike Miller is apparent, but it's a long season.  I hope this week be a wake-up call.

The heat lost this game, and I have a few observations.

The heat are legit and will win a ton of games.

The celtics were pretty much the worst possible opening day matchup. They return a stable long term core of players with an established system playing at home in front of a playoff type crowd. And the heat still came close to tying this game up with a minute left to play.

The heat had no business whatsoever making the run they did in the 3rd and then in the 4th. The celtics showed their age bigtime. Once miami has a few weeks / months together playing to refine rotations, build chemistry and become familiar as a team. watch out nba. you can't count on wade going 4-16 his first game back from an extended absence every game.

It was just ugly play, especially early.  Wade and Lebron combined for 14 turnovers.  None of the supporting cast could hit an open shot.

I think that the HEAT showed some weaknesses, specifically moving the ball inside.  If you can't hit your shots, you will be punished, and we were.

The heat did play really ugly .. the players didn't hit shots .. wade 4-16, bosh 3-11 and boston is the toughest team to play against in the eastern conference .. and yet miami almost won the game .. what happens when the heat don't play this ugly?

Yet Celtics' fans nationwide (their bandwagon has been strong lately) are partying in the street cause they won the opening day game by 8 points.  When the Heat played like kha-kha.

::)

I for one am glad the Heat lost.  I really want to see the Heat lose the rest of their games, but acknowledge that 0-82 is highly unlikely.  I seem to have a problem with players colluding to make a free agent sweepstakes.  I was never a fan of the Heat to begin with, but their current incarnation just seals it.  It'll be nice, for a change, to have the entirety of the NBA fans rooting with me for their demise.

This + Boston having the second worst record ;)

I went from the Heat being my second team to just downright disliking them ... second only to the Lakers. They have instantly become the Yankees of the NBA in my opinion but with that said ...  this game, like a lot of the regular season, means little. They will be just fine.

They'd be a lot more like the Yankees if they were 2x, 3x the salaries of the other teams, but since the NBA has a hard cap, and Miami's payroll is equal to every other team's payroll, the comparison just seems ridiculous.


CF has company in the "ridiculous statement" lounge...  The "entirety" of the NBA fans aren't with you in rooting for the Heat's demise. It's jjust a small, very vocal and very whiny slice of the overall NBA fan base, most of whom are only boo-hooing because it wasn't their team that landed the superstar trio.

I disagree Stroke. I think most people are rooting against the Heat and this is what I was referring to in the Yankees comparison. It seems to me people are either Heat fans or they want them to lose. It doesn’t seem there are many people who are indifferent to them these days.

Thankfully, your disagreement has zero effect on reality...  I'm a Suns fan who doesn't want any such thing.  I spoke with a Golden State Warriors fan this morning...who also doesn't want any such thing. I've spoken with dozens of fans of other clubs since LeBron came to town...and with a couple of exceptions (Celtics fans, Magic fans), none of them "hate" Miami and pray for their failure either.

As I said...it's a small slice of "where's my team's trio of superstar" whiners that is making 99ish% of the anti-Heat noise. You apparently have a seat in that section, but trying to shoehorn the rest of the world in there with ya seems kind of silly.

Someone wake me when the playoffs start. Everything else is meaningless until then.

Your opinion is right and mine is wrong. Sorry to disagree. I forgot you had the market on opinion.

You can believe whatever you want and try to write whimsical retorts on how no one else knows sports but the 2010-11 Miami wasn't voted into SI's top 25 most hated teams of all time because everyone is a fan of them.  ::) Of course SI's opinion is crap as well.

Reality is, the Heat signed three superstars this offseason and is expected to contend, so if for whatever reason they don't, everyone is going to jump all over them. 

I, for one, am definitely not liking this whole alliance thing.  It used to be that you would want to play against the best, not with them.

I wasn't nailing my opinion on top of yours...in fact, I didn't even post my opinion there. I simply felt it necessary to point out that your all-inclusive "people are either Heat fans or they want them to lose" comment was ridiculous, because...well, because of its all-inclusiveness. I'm not a Heat fan (not opinion, fact) and I don't want them to lose...which disqualifies your comment immediately as being first-order hyperbole. The fact that I added additional first hand knowledge (again, not opinion) of other non-Heat fans who don't want them to lose either should serve as support for the hyperbole label I've attached to your comment.

I didn't say that there aren't a lot of people who dislike Miami...because there are. I know there are, because they are both loud and whiny, and ignoring them is difficult. I'm just saying that any assertion made by anyone that "everyone who isn't a Heat fan hates them" is blanket hype and not truth.



(edited to remove my own idiocy)

This 1st of 82 regular season games represents, roughly, ~1.22% of the season. I think that the Heat will be fine for the other ~98.78% of the regular season.

Sorry. Bad mood today has made me both short and defensive. Please disregard my previous defensive response!

You need to address your own hypocrisy by your continued statement that evveryone who wants the Heat ( or more specificaly Lebron) to fail are just babies whose teams lost out.
There are many fans of the game who thought his childish and egocentric games he played with teams during free agency was assinine. Also many people wish him to not achieve his goals of mulitple championships for shitting on the organization that handed him and his pack of BFF's the keys to the city.
His conduct was classless and unprofessional, and people can dislike him and all he represents without falling into your narrowly defined box.
Also many people are tired of hearing all the supposed Heat "fans" who have come out of the woodwork and have made such ludicrious claims as they are going to win 82 games, 7 championships ( Lebron's words), etc.
I also think Bosh is a spineless, wanna be superstar who had to ride someone else's coattails into a prime situation.

A couple of thoughts on this one, Smoothie...

First, I never use the term babies, and I never reference LeBron, just the Heat-haters, so you're introducing a couple of elements to the equation that simply aren't accurate.

Second, I don't mind admitting to hypocrisy when it actually occurs (which it does from time to time), but in this case, after reviewing my comments in this and two other threads that deal with this year's Heat squad, I never say "all" or "every" or anything that implies that "everyone" who hates the Heat are whiny fans who missed out. I use the term "most of" in one instance, and "the majority of which" in another which are obviously unverifiable on my part (how can I know if the 51% required for the majority are whiny, or just 49%?), and I refer to the Heat-haters as a group as being both loud and whiny (which they are, and have been, since LeBron's fucked up exit from cleveland)...but I really don't see much hypocrisy in there at all. The Heat-haters as a whole, for WHATEVER reason they hate the Heat, HAVE been whiny and loud.


Aside from Chris joining the Heat to play with two players he considers good friends and to have a realistic opportunity at a title...which he damned sure wasn't ever gonna see in Toronto, can you point to one other thing that he has done in his lifetime that would spawn such vitriol from you? Did he beat his wife and I missed the news? Did he refer to himself in the third person or otherwise play the diva to the media? Did he once kick you in the nuts at a school dance?  Inquiring minds want to know!

For the record, the Heat won last night and looked very good. Overall record: 1-1.

From your chiding of CF's broadly painted accusations.

"As I said...it's a small slice of "where's my team's trio of superstar" whiners that is making 99ish% of the anti-Heat noise. You apparently have a seat in that section, but trying to shoehorn the rest of the world in there with ya seems kind of silly. "

You are shoehorning everyone who does not like the over the top hype of the Heat and are tired of hearing about it into one group. That is why I called hypocrisy.

Maybe a whiner is completely different from babies in your book, but I hold them to the same standard.

For the record my team was never in the running for either player so your hypothesis fails there too.