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I think if the season for 5-5 Miami ends badly and out of the playoffs, Sparano could be in trouble based on one factor:

Jon Gruden.

I am told by a source that Gruden -- former Raiders and Bucs coach-turned-broadcaster, and a Super Bowl winner -- holds the imagination of the Dolphins' celebrity-driven owner Stephen Ross.

Because Gruden did such a great job with the Bucs. Anyone could have coached the Bucs to the Super Bowl that year, and what did he do after that? He ran Dungy's team into the ground. No thanks to Chucky.

THANK YOU!  yeah....what Frimp said.

"A source" this morning told me that the Dolphins are really close to re-signing Don Shula to be their next head coach. Sure, that source may have been a homeless dude outside the Panera Bread where I was getting my coffee, but he was wearing an old weathered Dolphins cap, so I assumed he had enough tenure within the organization to qualify as a legitimate source.

;)

LOL, that was awesome!

I wouldn't go that far. He is a better head coach than Sparano who we have now. So off the bat its an upgrade. And Gruden had success in 2 stops. Oakland and Tampa, so I wouldn't write him off so quick. The guy can coach

ZING!!! Awesome, Stroke!

If there's one coach I'd love to see in Miami next year, it would be Jim Harbaugh from Stanford. 

hopefully your talking about university of miami. Do you remember the last coach we had that came from the college ranks?

Harbaugh seems different from Saban though.  He doesn't have that Napoleon Complex that Saban had.  Also, being a college coach, he can relate better to most of the Dolphins as they are a young team. 

He played QB in the NFL for a number of years and has turned Stanford back into a powerhouse.

IF we got a new coach, Harbaugh would be on my list as well.

Harbaugh is worth giving an interview to.  Kick the tires see what is there. But we are coming off Saban, Cam, and Sparano. 3 rookie NFL head coaches with no NFL Head Coaching experience.

While I think Harbaugh will be a good NFL head coach, Miami's situation is we need someone who has been around the block once or twice as an NFL Head Coach who can take us to that next level

I just heard the Gruden rumor on the radio here in Tampa...damn.

I am not supporting letting Sparano go; I think a new O-coordinator and another solid draft could make a big difference.

With that said...

I actually think Gruden would be a great fit in Miami.  If he would retain Mike Nolan, I think the combo could be stellar.  I don't trust Gruden to make all the personnel moves so I am working under the assumption that Ireland or someone comperable would be GM.

I know everyone wants to bust on Gruden for eating Dungy's leftovers but don't forget the work he did with the Raiders.  That team went from suck to pretty damn good and with decent consistency.

At the very least I think the team would be more enjoyable to watch. 

Ireland sucks. So I would want someone better as a GM. Someone with a better track record. I mean Pat White, Sean Smith, Patrick Turner and insulting Dez Bryant by calling his mom a hooker...no talent and no class out of our GM! Those above mentioned items will probably be the death nail of Jeff Ireland's GM career once he leaves Miami. Whether it be after this season or if he happens to survive whenever his time in Miami ends. I can't see another team giving Ireland control as GM with those red flags on his resume

I'm not saying Ireland has any finesse or whatever, by the Pat White pick was apparently all Parcells. "Sources" were quoted BEFORE the draft saying Parcells really liked Pat White.

It's on Ireland's watch he was the GM. So he takes the hit for it. Fair or unfair as it is

This isn't a question of "fairness". You're attempting to judge the abilities of someone with, I hope (since it's the only thing that makes the tiniest bit of sense), the goal to assess how he would do in the future. How does "dinging" him for a pick that was made by his BOSS increase the validity of your assessment?

because you don't know that it wasn't his pick. Post a link that it wasn't his pick of Pat White??

He is the GM. He makes the pick.

Randy Shannon is gonna get fired at "THE U"......Gruden is atop their wish list according to reports on WQAM. Looks like the Fins might have some competition inside their back yard for Gruden.

Don't think the Canes can afford Gruden though. So Ross shouldn't be nervous. He should be able to get his man if he wants him

If he researches the Parcells quote and posts it, wouldn't that make him your "slave"?

We can't have that.

Not to be too picky, but he asked if his mother was/had been a hooker and was her pimp his father. Both of these things are true. WHile your eyes and memory are clouded by his actions on the field so far, people were worried about his character after what happened in college.

Maybe since Uof M just fired their coach.

that's true too .. it really is only a big insult if his mother in fact wasn't a hooker. It's like asking a girl if she's pregnant .. it's only insulting if she isn't.

When someone tells you that their father is a pimp, and their mother worked for their father, what the hell are you supposed to ask...  "Is your mother a nuclear physicist?"

He can do whatever he wants. Once again you have missed the ENTIRE point; I have no problem finding a link for things. But when I read 5 posts attacking me and then you say go find a link. At that point (keeping this clean becuase its a family site) ...go find your own bleepin link. Expect me to jump through hoops for ya. HA! Yeah right.

So you can go find a link saying it was Parcells pick. If ya don't want to, don't!! I really don't care. But from what I understand and the way I see it, the GM is responsible for the picks and he takes the credit and hits for them being good or bad. If an owner steps in or someone higher than the GM steps in and pulls rank and makes the pick. OK, but there is no proof that happened here with Pat White. HENCE, Ireland takes the hit for making a TERRIBLE draft pick

Maybe have some class and don't say anything. Just let it go. What does the kids mother being a possible hooker have anything to do with wheter Dez Bryant is a good NFL player or even a good person in general? Gonna make the kid pay for the parents mistakes. Dez Bryant interviewd with probably 25-30 teams, yet only one asked the "hooker" question. So Ireland has no defense here. Every other GM in the league found a way around this without coming off like a fool. Ireland has no defense here.

What is your problem? Seriously. You have the most condescending, know it all, holier than thou attitude that I've ever seen.

What, I pointed out that the Dolphins drafted Pat White while Jeff Irleand was GM and that upset you?

You aren't alone in that impression, Frimp...it's pretty much site-wide. 

Misery, thy name is MikeO.

does anyone talk football on this site or is it just a bunch of 3rd graders who name-call and get involved in these elementary school playground games?

whatever, if calling me names makes you feel better about your life, by all means go for it! lol

Fuckhead, douchebag, fartknocker...can't say I feel any better about my life, but I don't feel any worse.

spoken like someone who defends a person who abuses women like Larry Fitzgerald. Not surprising

No. Its the tone of 90% of the posts that you make.

Get your people straight...I wasn't even in that discussion, making you WRONG about something.  Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrooooooooong!

The people on this site are capable of discussing football without having to defer to some Napoleon Complex to try to make themselves look like a badass. We all have access to the same info that you do via the web, ESPN, etc. Just because you watch the games and read articles and repeat what you read and see doesn't make you an expert. Stop talking down to people who disagree with you.

If you feel like you are being "talked down too" via a computer message board. Might want to seek some professional help.

If you feel the need to flex your puny muscles to make a bunch of strangers think you are a tough guy, maybe its you who need the professional help. And, no I don't "feel" talked down to. You simply are talking down to people, insulting them, and trying to make yourself appear superior, when all you are doing is making yourself look like a douche. Keep it up, Napoleon. Welcome to Waterloo.

Oh, and for someone who thinks they are so intelligent, nice usage of the word 'too.'

Now you are pointing out TYPO's. That's nice.  I Never claimed to be a genius. Never claimed to be superior.

Just trying to spark football discussion.

Then spark it. But it is possible to disagree with someone without insulting them. Hell, we have 2 Patriots fans here who are more respectful to Dolphins fans than you are.

Pot calling kettle black.  Look in the mirror bro!

^ take your own advice

Don't have to!  8)

Maybe because the other teams were not as interested in a kid who had troubles in college and taking the chance on wasting a draft pick on him only to have him turn into a problem child?
For someone with such a high football "I.Q.", you seemed to have missed where teams are not taking as many chances with troubled players due to the new enforcement rules. Or the number of players with questionable histories in college who do not pan out in the NFL, they do not want to risk a lot of money on a player who may wash out.

And this sums up why you are feeling like everyone is picking on you.

lighten up bro. It's a football message board for christ sakes!

Show me one post where someone said Larry did not abuse his girlfriend? I saw a boatload of people calling out your factually incorrect assertion that he left her in a bloody mess.
Also and more importantly, you were the one who injected the whole Fitzgerald into a thread about one of OUR TEAM'S recievers and his future on our TEAM.
You derailed the thread and then got pissy because you were wrong, and now you question everyone else's football I.Q. because YOU DERAILED THE THREAD WITH YOUR OWN COMMENTS.

Clown shoes for your sir.

LIghten up? You are the one with the martyr complex here. I just keep pointing out your errors in logic and judgement.

even after a nice Dolphins win you are going to continue with this nonsense? Can't you even enjoy the game and a team win? Seriously, its like you come to a football message board to talk everything BUT football.

Ignore me if I bother you so much. Won't have to read one thing I post. Problem solved!

Gruden to coach the Miami Hurricanes for $3 mill a year is being reported in a few places. Not 100% official but that is the story out there on the radio stations and some websites. No big websites though (ie ESPN or anything)

Would be funny if ESPN got scooped on a story about one of their employees! Like they did with Parcells a few years back

Peter King just reported Gruden turned down the Canes job. Guess not enough money for his liking to recruit and coach college kids

Returning to the topic.

I'm amazed at how "in-demand" Gruden has become. I guess people have forgotten how he drove Dungy's Bucs into the ground.  The only reason I hope that Gruden gets an NFL job, is so I won't have to listen to him on MNF next year.  I just hope that job isn't with the Dolphins.

Gruden won big in Oakland and TB. He has 5 division titles on his resume and a Super Bowl ring. He is a winner

I'm not sure why Gruden gets so much of a bad rap. I wouldn't mind him coaching us either.

I don't get it. Some people can't get over the fact he had a few bad years in Tampa. Shula had bad years in Miami. Parcells in Dallas. Gibbs in Wash. Noll in Pitt. EVERY COACH is gonna have a rough patch. You can't hold it against them. Doesn't make them "less great"

I've always felt that Gruden is one of those coaches who excels with a veteran team, and is able to take a very good team and push them over the edge to great (Like he did in Tampa). He's able to get the most out of veteran players. I was talking about him with some friends of mine a season or two ago, when it looked like the Eagles were in a tailspin and Andy Reid might get fired. I think he'd do great with a team like that- which is a team which borders on elite, but can't seem to make it over the hump.

I actually agree with this. I think Gruden is better with Vets than kids. Either way the guy can coach and has a ring to prove it.  And I wouldn't be the least upset if he is coaching the Fins. And Gruden to the Dolphins. The Fins have their share of Vets now. Dansby, Marshall, Bell, Starks, Carey, Pollite. Guys like Long and Henne are in year 3 and aren't kids. Vonte will be heading into year 3 and not a rook anymore. Gruden would do fine in Miami and he is one of my hopes for when we Fire Sparano

I am very happy they won. It is even more joyous since I grew up in the heart of 49er's and Raiders land, and most of my friends are Raiders fans. It gives me a little salt to rub in their wounds.
I do remember you being angry even after the Dolphins won because of Allen, so this statement is a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black.

When was I angry the Dolphins won because of Jason Allen? Please tell. Provide a link. Give me  a date?

I don't even know what game you are talking about since Allen won us no games. I didn't join THIS website until Sep 19th at 8:30pm (which can be checked by clicking on my name). So from Week 3 till Week 6 when he was cut.....what game was I on this board upset over that the Dolphins won because of Jason Allen? 

Nice job LYING on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php/topic,17475.0.html

THANK YOU for proving my point. That post was on Oct 29th. Meaning it came AFTER a dolphins LOSS TO PITTSBURGH!!!! Not after a Dolphins win!!

Thanks for playing. Try again!!!

Read the whole thread.  You kept complaining even after the win Oct 31 against the Bengals.

Thank you for playing...and try to come up with something original instead of copying Maine.

Edit:  Eh, not worth it.

You people must live real boring lives if all you do is come on this website not to talk football but follow me around and just attack me over utter nonsense!!

It's funny. I will admit. 

You accused bsmooth of lying and asked for proof, which I gave you.  Funny how you can demand proof but cannot provide proof of your statements.  Your ability to spin anything to deflect blame is amazing.  We give you the proof you wanted, which took all of 30 seconds, and then we have boring lives for doing it.  ::)

You must have a really boring life when you have over 800 posts and you've only been on this site since mid September.

It's not proof. The THREAD was started after a Dolphins loss. If it continued into the next week, so be it  ::)

God some you people sping everything

It is proof if you would read the thread or any post on the board without you self righteous glasses on.

Not proof at all. His ORIGINAL point was I was angry after a Fins win at Jason Allen. I wasn't. I put up a post upset with Allen after the Fins lost to Pittsburgh.  The date on the post doesn't lie. If the thread went into and continued into the following week, so be it. I have no say on how long a thread will last or go on for.  ::)

Are you seriously this dense?

This post (http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php/topic,17475.msg212539.html#msg212539), made at 6:04 PM Eastern time on October 31, was complaining about Jason Allen, a couple hours after Miami beat Cincinnati.  Therefore, you posted complaining about a player's performance (direct quote: "abused 3 times") immediately after a Dolphins win.  Case closed.

Am I the only one who is noticing an uncanny similarity in modi operandi between MikeO and the poster formerly known as Tommy? 

I served with Tommy.
I knew Tommy.
Tommy was a friend of mine.
MikeO is no Tommy.

If MikeO is Tommy, I will shit my pants. ;)

Sorry...couldn't resist.

nuff said :D

Edit:  eh

But the thread was started after the Pittsburgh game a Miami loss. That was the original point. I had no idea the thread would continue into the following week. It's not that difficult to understand.

NOT TO MENTION...he said it was an angry post. My post wasn't angry!! So you guys are wrong on BOTH fronts.

Do I even have to mention why this thread is locked?