Title: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: dolphins4life on December 19, 2010, 06:27:22 pm Ok here's what the first four moves this offseason should be:
1) Dump Henning 2) Dump Henne 3) Dump the wildcat 4) Dump some more of the coaches What next? You guys decide Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: IowaDolfan on December 19, 2010, 06:32:27 pm We need to hire someone on the sidelines that smokes so we always have matches available to light a fire under these guys asses when we are in shorttime situations
Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: masterfins on December 20, 2010, 08:24:57 pm The wildcat has been useless all year with Brown, who is afraid to get hit. He's been trying to avoid getting injured so he can sign a contract next year.
Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: Dave Gray on December 21, 2010, 01:01:20 am I think that your ideas are reactionary crap, if I'm being quite honest.
If you dump everything and start new, you are in a perpetual state of awful. You can't go at our problems with a battle axe. You have to go at it with a scalpel -- find what is the problem and remove only that, while giving the other areas, though not perfect, time to grow and improve. I'll take your suggestions one by one: 1) Dump Henning OK. I think this one takes care of itself. Word on the street is that he'll retire at the end of the season. If not, I think that replacing him is fair. He is old and seems to not be able to make this group gel. 2) Dump Henne Unlike Henning, where there's always another guy in line for the job, there isn't a guy waiting in the wings to be QB, so you can't just dump your best option at your most important position. I am against acquiring another stop-gap QB (like McNabb) for a high draft pick, but if you want to draft a guy, fine. I still think that since Henne is the best QB on our roster, we keep him for next year and start him until someone takes the job. Dumping him leaves you with a guy that couldn't beat him out. 3) Dump the Wildcat I like the wildcat. People take a dump on it, but it's just a run play. It was responsible for a TD for us as recent as last week. It seems the same people who want to get rid of Henne are the same people who are pissed that we take him out of the game to use the wildcat. Which is it? I like the Wildcat better when we actually use the various wrinkles and not just run off-tackle every time. Remember, it's only a formation and we only use it a couple of times a game. 4) Dump Some More of the Coaches The only other coach I think it makes sense to replace besides Henning is possibly the special teams coach, and that'd be only if the interim guy wasn't the long term choice of the management. As far as the individual position coaches, we fans have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, so it'd be stupid to even speculate, but say, Sparano wanted to replace the defensive backs coach in favor of someone who could coach up their interception-making abilities, fine...whatever. As for Sparano, I think it would be a bad move by the organization to replace him. It's not even a defense of Sparano, so much as it is the disgust for more upheaval. He came to a 1-15 team and is well above .500. I wish that Sparano wasn't so conservative in his approach to the game, but that's how most of the NFL is, and I'm willing to live with it. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 21, 2010, 08:40:06 am 3) Dump the Wildcat I like the wildcat. People take a dump on it, but it's just a run play. It was responsible for a TD for us as recent as last week. It seems the same people who want to get rid of Henne are the same people who are pissed that we take him out of the game to use the wildcat. Which is it? I like the Wildcat better when we actually use the various wrinkles and not just run off-tackle every time. Remember, it's only a formation and we only use it a couple of times a game. I think the Dolphins should bring back the wildcat it worked very effectively for them in 2008. What the Dolphins ran this year is NOT what they ran in 2008. In 2008, Pennington would stay in the game and thus it would catch defenses off guard. What they do know is take Henne out of the game and telegraph the intentions to the opposing defense. Similiar to what the Jets do with Brad Smith. They are totally different plays. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: Landshark on December 21, 2010, 08:47:10 am I think the Dolphins should bring back the wildcat it worked very effectively for them in 2008. What the Dolphins ran this year is NOT what they ran in 2008. In 2008, Pennington would stay in the game and thus it would catch defenses off guard. What they do know is take Henne out of the game and telegraph the intentions to the opposing defense. Similiar to what the Jets do with Brad Smith. They are totally different plays. The difference is, Brad Smith was a QB in college and can throw on the run. Ronnie can't do it half as good. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: tubba marxxx on December 23, 2010, 03:43:05 pm Unless we sign Brad Smith since I'm almost possitive he'll be a FA this year..just a thought
Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: Pappy13 on December 23, 2010, 04:11:39 pm Agreed with 1, 2 and 4.
I'd like to see Henne given another shot with a different offensive coordinator and see how he does, but he's on a short leash. And I'm all for bringing in someone to compete for the job as well, just don't think we should "dump" him. As far as the Wildcat, I think it's lost it's effectiveness. Teams now know how to stop it, so there's really no advantage to be gained from running it. Personally I'd rather see them run a play action or set up a screen or something else than the Wildcat. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: MikeO on December 23, 2010, 04:56:20 pm Ok here's what the first four moves this offseason should be: 1) Dump Henning 2) Dump Henne 3) Dump the wildcat 4) Dump some more of the coaches What next? You guys decide If your gonna dump that many coaches, why not just dump the head coach and start over. Seriously and you don't dump Henne. At worst he is a decent #2 QB. Someone who can hold the fort if your #1 QB goes down. Those guys are tough to find. Plus Henne is cheap right now so what incentive is there to dump him? Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: tubba marxxx on December 23, 2010, 05:57:43 pm Becuase by dumping your Head Coach you concede that you're in rebuilding mode/starting over..again, the team has a couple holes but it's not a canyon
Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: MikeO on December 23, 2010, 07:22:38 pm Becuase by dumping your Head Coach you concede that you're in rebuilding mode/starting over..again, the team has a couple holes but it's not a canyon by dumping a bunch of assistants you are rebuilding. What you think new assistants will come in and run the same friggin stuff that FAILED for 3 years??? Plus if your head coach can't hire decent assistants the first time around, what makes you think he will do a better job this time around? Some of you people treat the head coach like a spectator. Like he has no say in anything, he's just along for the ride. The head coach has VETO power and he doesn't veto any of these people and lets his crappy coaches do crappy things. Hence, there is blood on his hands! Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: Tenshot13 on December 23, 2010, 08:35:05 pm by dumping a bunch of assistants you are rebuilding. What you think new assistants will come in and run the same friggin stuff that FAILED for 3 years??? Again, I point to Raheem Morris who fired his OC and DC his first year, and the Bucs are playing pretty good football now.Plus if your head coach can't hire decent assistants the first time around, what makes you think he will do a better job this time around? Some of you people treat the head coach like a spectator. Like he has no say in anything, he's just along for the ride. The head coach has VETO power and he doesn't veto any of these people and lets his crappy coaches do crappy things. Hence, there is blood on his hands! Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 23, 2010, 09:27:40 pm Mine would look like this.
Dump Henning. Draft some running backs. Tell Bill Parcells he can get aids n die Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: badger6 on December 23, 2010, 10:01:36 pm On an off note. Why did Marino quit when he was hired as the Senior Vice President of Football Operations in 04 ???
Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: dolphins4life on December 24, 2010, 01:50:12 am ^^^^
Family issues, I believe. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: MikeO on December 24, 2010, 03:35:13 am On an off note. Why did Marino quit when he was hired as the Senior Vice President of Football Operations in 04 ??? Because it was a BS position. Marino thought he would be able to hire the head coach and be working with the GM and help draft players and sign free agents. Wayne wanted him as a figurehead which he had no power and was just there because of his name. And Marino would have NO power or say in anything. So once Marino found out he was just a puppet, he quit Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: masterfins on December 27, 2010, 03:54:25 pm I'm feeling pretty positive heading into the off-season, although obviously disappointed by this years performance by the Fins. If the Fins can eke out a win next week (although it probably won't be a "true" win), I'd be happy all things considered. The Fins played the better teams tough all season. Had a couple crappy loses (Pitt, Buffalo, Lions). Too many dropped INT's, poor running game, overall poor offensive calling.
I liken this season to the 1-15 year, not really as bad as the record indicates, a team with a lot of potential for improvement. Need a new OC, possibly a new HC - I think that depends upon whether the players still have confidence in Sparano. Draft a couple O-Lineman, a RB, and bring in some QB's to give Henne some competition, maybe find a few diamonds in the rough. Anybody know who's on the schedule for next year? Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: Pappy13 on December 27, 2010, 04:22:57 pm Anybody know who's on the schedule for next year? The Jets, Patriots and Bills. They'll have to play a lot better next year against those 3 teams to have any kinda of shot at the playoffs.Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: MikeO on December 27, 2010, 05:26:44 pm The Jets, Patriots and Bills. They'll have to play a lot better next year against those 3 teams to have any kinda of shot at the playoffs. We play the NFC East (at NY Giants and at Dallas on Thanksgiving is all but official). Home vs Philly and Washington. And the AFC West home vs Denver and KC; and AT Oakland and San Diego. We will also play AT Cleveland. And HOME vs Tenn or Houston. Looks like Tenn though. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: masterfins on December 28, 2010, 12:53:50 pm ^^^ Thanks MikeO. Looks like it will be a tougher schedule next year vs. this year. The Fins better improve.
Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: CF DolFan on December 29, 2010, 08:52:03 am On an off note. Why did Marino quit when he was hired as the Senior Vice President of Football Operations in 04 ??? He didn't want to be that involved. He qucikly realised he didn't want to put that kind of time into the team. He said his weekly gig gave him enough to do. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: Landshark on December 29, 2010, 10:39:53 pm 1) You got that right. Ross better not even think about bringing back Henning as offensive coordinator next season unless he wants to see more empty orange seats.
2) I think you have to keep Henne for two reasons. First, and most importantly, who else is there to be had? Second, I think he's been poorly coached. With the right offensive coordinator and qb coach, he'll develop into a seasoned professional. 3) The new offensive coordinator needs to see it for what it is, a gadget play that should be used sparingly 4) Dump Sparano and David Lee. Get a guy like Jim Harbaugh to coach this team. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: tubba marxxx on December 29, 2010, 11:47:53 pm by dumping a bunch of assistants you are rebuilding. What you think new assistants will come in and run the same friggin stuff that FAILED for 3 years??? Plus if your head coach can't hire decent assistants the first time around, what makes you think he will do a better job this time around? Some of you people treat the head coach like a spectator. Like he has no say in anything, he's just along for the ride. The head coach has VETO power and he doesn't veto any of these people and lets his crappy coaches do crappy things. Hence, there is blood on his hands! dude he didn't hire the staff..Parcells did..we all know you hate Sparano..but don't make outlandish claims to try and prove a point Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 30, 2010, 12:42:40 am I agree about Hennig, though the Wildcat is fine when it isn't 100% of the time a run play. It is also fine when it isn't used during a successful drive, because it messes up the flow.
Henne is not the answer, but I'd rather see him with a new OC rather than another stop gap. If they can draft a franchise QB or trade for one then so be it, but if it's Henne or McNabb, I'll take Henne. I would also keep Sparano. He isn't great, but he isn't terrible either. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: MikeO on December 30, 2010, 04:17:56 am dude he didn't hire the staff..Parcells did..we all know you hate Sparano..but don't make outlandish claims to try and prove a point So your saying an NFL head coach didn't hire any assisatants? Give me a break. Come back to reality! You have no idea what your talking about. Title: Re: Looking ahead to the offseason Post by: badger6 on December 30, 2010, 05:58:48 am I agree about Hennig, though the Wildcat is fine when it isn't 100% of the time a run play. It is also fine when it isn't used during a successful drive, because it messes up the flow. Henne is not the answer, but I'd rather see him with a new OC rather than another stop gap. If they can draft a franchise QB or trade for one then so be it, but if it's Henne or McNabb, I'll take Henne. I would also keep Sparano. He isn't great, but he isn't terrible either. The thing that I don't get about the use of the wildcat package is that Ronnie really isn't a threat to throw the ball. I know he has a few times but not that many. I don't see why they don't utilize Thigpen with Ronnie and Ricky in the wildcat. That shy they wasted a draft pick getting Pat White for anyhow. The only difference is that Thigpen can complete a pass. And has probably run for more yards too. I haven't checked that last stat, so I may be wrong on that. If the defense has to cover the run and the pass in the wildcat it would probably work more often than it has this year. |