Title: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: fyo on January 13, 2011, 10:17:54 am Brad Childress (Vikes ex-coach) is coming to town tomorrow for an interview with the Dolphins.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6017674 He has every incentive to stay out of coaching... the Vikings owe him $3 million over two years, but any pay from the Dolphins would offset from that amount. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Jim Gray on January 13, 2011, 02:15:39 pm I don't know much about Childress; but the media made it seem like the players hated the guy. Why would you even consider bringing someone like that into an organization that is in desperate need of some stability?
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on January 13, 2011, 03:03:19 pm ^^^^
I was thinking the same thing.....if they hated the guy as much as they made us believe we should steer clear of him. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Dave Gray on January 13, 2011, 03:13:25 pm They hated him as a head coach. Does that translate down the ladder to other positions?
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: StL FinFan on January 13, 2011, 03:19:10 pm I hated Cam as a head coach, but look what he is doing as an OC.
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Phishfan on January 13, 2011, 03:31:21 pm I think they hated him as much personally as they did having him as a coach. If you are an ass, it translates to every aspect of your life and every position you coach in.
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on January 13, 2011, 03:48:08 pm I hated Cam as a head coach, but look what he is doing as an OC. Yes and he was a great OC prior to taking the gig as our HC but I do not remember, and I could be wrong, the amount of hate by the players towards Childress fired off against Cam. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: StL FinFan on January 13, 2011, 03:48:59 pm ^ Fair enough. What about the hate fired off towards Sparano before his contract was extended?
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: tubba marxxx on January 13, 2011, 04:31:01 pm some dudes just aren't cut out for head coaching..they're awesome assistants..but cant do the big job..(i.e. Wanny, Wade Phillips, Cam Cameron, Mike Nolan, Mike Singletary, Josh McDaniels, the list goes on)..I wouldn't mind Chilly in Miami..Favre and Moss gave him way more of a bad rep than he deserved
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: MikeO on January 13, 2011, 05:51:29 pm The Vikings players hated him as a person and thought he was a fake "tough guy". That he was a dork who would talk tough and act tough. Jay Glazer said players will respect a dork (ie Jim Fassell) if you are who you are. But if you are a dork who trys to be someone they aren't, then you are considered a clown and players don't respect or play hard for ya. I remember Glazer saying that in an interview and it struck me and I haven't forgotten it. Glazer said that these NFL players are "street smart" and they dont' resepct "fake" or "phony" people. That is why Childress failed in Minny and was hated.
He wouldn't be my first choice in Miami. And considering Sparano's still on the hot seat it would scare the hell out of me if we fired Tony by week 6 or 7 that Childress might become interm head coach, win a few and keep the job full time. For that reason alone I would rather not have Brad Childress anywhere near Miami. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Dave Gray on January 13, 2011, 06:43:40 pm I sort of understand Chilly. He got screwed by having Favre. He was a coach with no power, because Favre called the shots.
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: StL FinFan on January 13, 2011, 06:49:06 pm "Chilly in Miami" I can see it already.
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: badger6 on January 13, 2011, 08:54:38 pm Glazer said that these NFL players are "street smart" and they dont' resepct "fake" or "phony" people. That is why Childress failed in Minny and was hated. Half of the players in the NFL seem to be fake phony posers when the camera is on them. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Alwaysdullfan on January 13, 2011, 11:18:03 pm ...I dont know the guy either, but I think he's a pretty good coach and might do a good job. I think the media made him look like a bad guy, worse than he is, maybe he made some questionable decisions, even taking a chance with Favre that could of cost them a season and his job if you think about it. Favre lost the games for them this season and wasn't much help, so thats why they had to fire him. But they almost got to the SuperBowl year before so its hard to say...he's gotta know his s*** and I think the media made him look worse than it was.
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Spider-Dan on January 14, 2011, 03:36:30 am Yes and he was a great OC prior to taking the gig as our HC but I do not remember, and I could be wrong, the amount of hate by the players towards Childress fired off against Cam. You don't remember this debacle (http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/dolphins/7384) with Cameron kicking Keith Traylor off of the team, the players nearly committing open mutiny (Joey Porter called Cameron a gutless coward (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/01/07/dolphins-joey-porter-called-cam-cameron-a-gutless-coward-camer/) in front of the whole team, and the players applauded), and Cameron sheepishly asking Traylor to come back, only to have him refuse?Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Landshark on January 14, 2011, 09:35:52 am The question is, do we have the personnel to run the West Coast offense?
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Fau Teixeira on January 14, 2011, 10:57:44 am there's only 1 personnel that matters to run that offense .. and we don't have a QB right now that can
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: Pappy13 on January 14, 2011, 11:10:50 am Maybe they do or at least maybe they think they can find enough players in the draft and free agency to implement it.
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2011/01/are-miami-dolphins-headed-for-the-west-coast.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sports%2FMiamiDolphinsweblog+%28Miami+Dolphins+%7C+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs%29 I'm not buying into this whole concept that the potential lockout means you can't make big changes in the off-season either. If there is a shortened practice period before the season, then EVERYONE is going to be effected, not just teams that are making changes. Offenses and defenses are going to be behind what they normally would be. So while you may not have had a lot of time to practice a new offense, your opponent won't have had a lot of time to prepare for it either. There might only be 1 or 2 preason games, they won't have much game tape on you either. Besides, lets face it, the preseason is too long as it is now. Teams really don't need 4 or 5 weeks of preseason games to get an offense ready, they really only need 1 or 2, provided they play the 1st string the whole game. If you are willing to do that, then you can get prepared in half the time. I remember about half way through the season when they were saying that there wasn't gonna be much head coaching turnover this year because of the potential lockout, well that prediction didn't turn out too well. I don't think teams are really approaching this off-season any different then they have in the past. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on January 14, 2011, 01:11:19 pm You don't remember this debacle (http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/dolphins/7384) with Cameron kicking Keith Traylor off of the team, the players nearly committing open mutiny (Joey Porter called Cameron a gutless coward (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/01/07/dolphins-joey-porter-called-cam-cameron-a-gutless-coward-camer/) in front of the whole team, and the players applauded), and Cameron sheepishly asking Traylor to come back, only to have him refuse? Now that you mention it yes...but in all honesty I try to block out and forget as much about that season as I can. It was the worst year of football for me a lifelong Dolphins fan. On the same note I think it was more of a local story then a National one. I mean I only read about it on here not like the shit that was all over ESPN about Chilly.....well at least that I can remember or care to anyways!!!!! ;) Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: MikeO on January 14, 2011, 06:43:21 pm The question is, do we have the personnel to run the West Coast offense? Isn't Tavaras Jackson a free agent?! Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: EKnight on January 15, 2011, 09:25:42 am I hope that's a joke. -EK
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 16, 2011, 10:22:58 am Forget it. He's the last person I want running the offense. Keep the not West Coast offense in the dustbin where that horseshit belongs.
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: MikeO on January 16, 2011, 10:39:06 am There were some reports that the ONLY reason Childress took the interview for the OC job is because he wanted to meet with Stephen Ross. Knowing Ross isn't happy with Sparano might be looking for a head caoch in the near future.
Childress isn't interested in the OC job in Miami unless he thinks there is a chance to move up the ladder. And he wanted to feel out Ross and meet with him. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 16, 2011, 11:56:43 am There were some reports that the ONLY reason Childress took the interview for the OC job is because he wanted to meet with Stephen Ross. Knowing Ross isn't happy with Sparano might be looking for a head caoch in the near future. Childress isn't interested in the OC job in Miami unless he thinks there is a chance to move up the ladder. And he wanted to feel out Ross and meet with him. Do you have a link for this or is this another of the MikeO repeating a theory he heard on talk radio? Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: MikeO on January 16, 2011, 12:34:45 pm Do you have a link for this or is this another of the MikeO repeating a theory he heard on talk radio? here you go again, looking to pick a fight over nonsesne!! Acting like a 4 year old again. This isn't "MEET THE PRESS" or a court of law....its a football message board. For your enjoyment just put me on IGNORE and don't read anything I write. Otherwise just chill out and enjoy the football message board for what it is! I'm telling you what I heard. It was Omar Kelly or Jeff Darlington, one of those on the radio with the report. Sorry I didn't take the exact time, day, and word for word documentation of the conversation ::) Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 16, 2011, 01:26:15 pm ^^^ so random shit mikeo made up. Just what i thought.
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: badger6 on January 16, 2011, 01:57:58 pm Forget it. He's the last person I want running the offense. Keep the not West Coast offense in the dustbin where that horseshit belongs. I myself would like to see Miami go to a run&shoot/spread type offense with plenty O' no huddle thrown in. Although we would have to get a QB to run it !!! Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 16, 2011, 02:47:11 pm I myself would like to see Miami go to a run&shoot/spread type offense with plenty O' no huddle thrown in. Although we would have to get a QB to run it !!! Modern offense has plenty of roots in the run and shoot. Option routes, designed rollouts. Anytime you see a double slot or 4 WR formation, or that stupid hitch pass, that's straight from the run and shoot. You'll never see them run it as a whole offense because unless you're Barry Sanders, you won't run the ball with it for very long. It also tends to wear out a defense. Specifically your own if you can't keep scoring with it. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: badger6 on January 16, 2011, 03:20:06 pm Modern offense has plenty of roots in the run and shoot. Option routes, designed rollouts. Anytime you see a double slot or 4 WR formation, or that stupid hitch pass, that's straight from the run and shoot. You'll never see them run it as a whole offense because unless you're Barry Sanders, you won't run the ball with it for very long. It also tends to wear out a defense. Specifically your own if you can't keep scoring with it. Well not specifically the run and shoot. The run and shoot and spread offense, while they share a lot, are actually 2 different schemes. So when I said that I kind of meant a full time spread offense with a few run and shoot twists. Kind of like a hybrid of the two. Rather get back to primary passing offense. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: dolfan13 on January 16, 2011, 03:27:06 pm just the mere entertainment of chilly as oc, screams henne won't be anywhere near the starting qb for the dolphins next year.
west coast offense is basically anti-henne. requires a qb that can make quick decisions, is mobile, is accurate, basically all the qualities henne stinks at. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: MikeO on January 16, 2011, 03:32:51 pm ^^^ so random shit mikeo made up. Just what i thought. You have derailed the thread once again. Grow up!! Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: badger6 on January 16, 2011, 03:34:32 pm just the mere entertainment of chilly as oc, screams henne won't be anywhere near the starting qb for the dolphins next year. west coast offense is basically anti-henne. requires a qb that can make quick decisions, is mobile, is accurate, basically all the qualities henne stinks at. Which is exactly what we need in Miami. At Qb, not necessarily Childress as OC. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: dolfan13 on January 16, 2011, 03:38:46 pm yeah im pretty much convinced this coaching staff will have a new qb starting for 2011. about the best news that came out of this whole coaching fiasco...
Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: MikeO on January 16, 2011, 03:41:47 pm yeah im pretty much convinced this coaching staff will have a new qb starting for 2011. about the best news that came out of this whole coaching fiasco... There will be solid options at QB. Nobody great. Nobody to build around. But the problem is if the lockout lasts long or goes into July and beyond, any NEW QB (drafted or free agent) will have only 2 weeks or so to learn a new offense and gel with players. which is why I wouldn't be shocked if Henne is our starter and our WR coach is promoted to OC....to have some sense of things already in place. Title: Re: Childress to interview for OC gig Post by: badger6 on January 16, 2011, 03:44:26 pm There will be solid options at QB. Nobody great. Nobody to build around. But the problem is if the lockout lasts long or goes into July and beyond, any NEW QB (drafted or free agent) will have only 2 weeks or so to learn a new offense and gel with players. which is why I wouldn't be shocked if Henne is our starter and our WR coach is promoted to OC....to have some sense of things already in place. That's depressing as hell.............. |