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Anyone applies who was on the 2010 roster, even if their contract is up.

Your reason can be that they suck, that they eat up too much cap, that their backup is better but not getting playing time, that they're on the road to nowhere, attitude, etc.

Pick someone, and give your reason.

Chad Henne, because he sucks and is quite possibly the ugliest QB in the league. He's not all charm and hunky like Aaron Rodgers, and that probably doesn't help him to some degree.

Are coaches eligible?

Jake Long and Camron Wake.   >:D

Chad henne.

^^^That shocks me coming from you, I would have never guessed that!!!!!   ;)

Ricky Williams

this guy is a cancer to the team, IMO.

Channing Crowder.  He's expensive, loud, obnoxious, and allergic to the offense's backfield.  He talks a great game but doesn't back it up.

Plus, upgrading at the MLB position is so far down the list of needs that I feel like if they get around to this it's because they've been able to address their other problems.  A man can dream...

that's a good pick too.  He runs his mouth like a superstar but he fucking blows.

It's hard to say.  I'm happy with most for the most part.  Except for Chad Henne and Crowder.  Despite my displeasure and let-down with Henne this year I still think he'd be a suitable back-up.  I also doubt we'd get any positive out of just dumping him and we couldn't get a herpes sore for him in a trade right now.  I think maybe with some different coaching we may be able to salvage something and develop him into something serviceable. 

So I'd say Channing gets my vote.  I don't see any possibilities with him.  Let him go somewhere else and take a spot and eat some cap space on another team for no return.

Another vote for Channing Crowder.  If you are going to be that much of a distractions, you need to be more of an impact player.

^^^ Gotta go with Crowder also, too much of a distraction - not enough benefit. 

I gotta say I'm not agreeing with all the hate for Crowder.  The guy may not put numbers in the box scores but the middle of our defense is remarkably softer when he's not in the game.

The guy is a presence.  He's not Zach Thomas.  But he's a serviceable ILB.

If you call serviceable making tackles 4 yards from the line of scrimmage, then I say Tim Dobbins is serviceable too (and cheaper).  Crowder forces no turnovers, makes no impact plays.  We have to pay $4 M a year for that?  39 tackles in 11 games, man.  39!!  For a MLB!!

I'm kinda with Brian.  He's not a superstar, but when he's out, I think you feel it.

I think Crowder gets much more criticism than he deserves. He is a solid player.

I'll jump on the undeserved criticism pile then...I'd love to see Channing Crowder somewhere else.

I don't hate Crowder, and I think he's a serviceable guy.  But since you asked for a name, that's what I came up with up.  Right now, there aren't  a lot of guys on the team who stand out as being a detrimental weak link.  Most of the players are okay, just nothing special.  Crowder gets attention because he runs his mouth.  Some of the stuff he says embarrasses me as a Dolphin fan (i.e. - his comments after the trip-gate). 

Some may point out Henne as a weak link, but I think we still need him on the roster in 2011........either as a backup, or as the starter if we are unable to improve at the position.  No point in dumping players when there isn't an option to upgrade.

Benny Sapp...just not a good player and I'd rather give a younger, up and comer a chance.  He makes the occasional big play, but gives up more big plays.

Don't hit me, but I think mine might be Ronnie Brown (or RUNNY BROWN, as he's known in some circles).  I think he's a good player, but if we go back to a cap, I'm just not sure he's worth what he will cost.  He isn't the game-changing player that we've been playing for.  I think he doesn't bring much more than a free-agent type back.

I'm surprised so many people are picking players who would add some depth even if moved into a backup role. I'd have to say I don't want Pennington on the roster next year. The guy did a great service to us one year, but his time is over.

I'd like to change my vote.  I forgot about Pennington.   

Yeah, me too.  But, at the same time, I still don't want Ricky around.  After what he put out in the media earlier this off-season, I'm not interested in having players like that.  And, he's not the Ricky of old.  He runs out of bounds, avoids contact, and is generally slower.  If he had a better attitude, so would I.

Looks like the Dolphins have some cleaning house to do:

Ronnie Brown
Ricky Williams
Chad Pennington
Channing Crowder

These guys are all older and 3 of the 4 were the mid-2000's "core" players. It's 2011 and I think the Dolphins need to do some mini-house keeping here.

If you watch Crowder, he is pretty damn good at pointing out where the play is going and getting his guys adjusted.  He is a solid tackler and although he isn't an interception machine he doesn't get burnt in coverage.  I say keep him a little longer!

Ronnie is a guy I am ready to see go.  Really Ronnie and Ricky since I always worry about Ricky dropping the ball and am not a fan of his attitude.  Both are slow and overpaid.  Time for some speed and elusiveness at that position.

I'd love to upgrade over Crowder, but he is serviceable and we don't have anyone ready to step up. If we want to be a contender, we need to get his upgrade in place before getting rid of him.

Now that is just too rational for this group. You should be yelling about walking papers.

^^^Now, now...I led the charge on the Crowder brigade, but I specifically stated that he's so far down the list of upgrade needs that if they get around to him, it must mean they've upgraded at the "really need" positions.

I don't think he will cost that much.  His numbers last year were pretty unimpressive for a former 1st round draft pick, that added to his past injuries, I don't think other teams are going to be offering him big bucks.  Unless the Fins get lucky and draft a good RB I think he'll be back.  Hopefully, the new O-Line will open some 5 yard wide holes for him to run through.

Well thats using a little false logic, by assuming the Fins won't bring someone in to replace him.

Ricky Fumbling Williams...

I, too, am annoyed with Crowder's mouth, but seeing the absolute farce of a job that his replacements (Dobbins and Carpenter) did, I can't agree with the calls to boot him... yet.  We need a replacement first.

On a related note, my vote is actually for Dobbins.  In nearly every game I watched, I saw #51 getting burned, failing to make tackles, and just all-around sucking.  The guy is an unmitigated liability on the field.

"Out", meaning "out of the lineup".

SpiderDan made my same point. 

Yea, but that is because they are playing the backups.  of course the backups are going to be worse than the starters.  you aren't going to be able to pay somebody who is starter material to come be channing crowders backup.

Well based on this theory I think everyone, including his supporters, would want to see Henne gone. If it means we automatically get an upgrade at the position then heck yea ... sign me up. The problem is it doesn't quite work that easy. It's hard to replace known commodities and the reason why most teams don't just dump players whenever fans cry wolf.

If he is giving you solid play, and I think most people would say he is, then the priority in upgrading gets pushed down the list.

He's not giving solid play though, he is giving play that is better than the teams backups.

Well following this train of thought the topic should be more aptly titled "what 2nd stringer do you want to see moved up the depth chart ahead of the existing starter" ... I'll stick with my point that you are using some false logic as I don't think that was the point of the topic.

As for SpiderDan, you make a very good point about Dobbins.  Now that you mention it I recall him running around missing a lot of tackles.

Bryan Cox. ;)

Hey, he is a Dolphin, and I don't want him on the player roster! lol

I look at it this way:  if you think someone is doing such a bad job that you're willing to roll the dice on a replacement (in, say, the 5th round of the draft), that's the person you should name for purposes of this conversation.

I'm not thrilled with Brandon Marshall's antics, but since any replacement would almost certainly be a downgrade, he's not a good selection.  Similarly, while Crowder's shenanigans are old, it's clear that he's better than any-bum-off-the-waiver-wire.  If we had a better backup for him, he'd be a better candidate for demotion/release.

That's why I want to get rid of his backup.

this is an easy one,  CHANNING CROWDER ;D ;D

Ronnie or Ricky. Doesn't matter which, but Lex is a beast who shouldn't be riding the bench and will turn some heads if he gets playing time this year. -EK

I can think of a few but my top pick is Channing Crowder.  He's the one weak spot on our defense.