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He is a "good" player, but not great. Better than Hartline but adding him would create a log-jam at WR. Especially if you consider Moore and Wallace as young guys with bright futures.

I don't see how he makes the Fins much better. We need a RB and TE before another "good" WR who has similar skill set to guys we already have

^^ I don't think we need a RB. I think either Ricky or Ronnie will be coming back. Not sure which one at the moment. I'm leaning towards Ricky since I think he could be cheaper to sign, had a more productive year last year and I think he fits better with Daniel Thomas in the Wildcat, Thomas I think would take the snap. Ricky was actually pretty effective out of the wildcat last year.

I would take Sims-Walker on board in a heartbeat.  He's got great size at 6'2'' 215 lbs.  His knee injury in 07 probably slowed down that 4.3 speed a little, but I highly doubt it's all gone, and I don't consider Moore and Wallace to have bright futures..they were both there merely for depth and if they had such bright futures, they would've seen the field a lot more.  Sims-Walker struggled being "the guy" in 2010, and if he was in Miami, he would have a much smaller role.  I fully welcome the idea of Marshall and Sims-Walker on the outside, Bess and Hartline in the slots (where they work better out of anyways) and then Gates in our "new 5 WR packages" to be the burner that stretches the field.  And you can have Wallace/Moore battle for the remaining spot and/or practice squad members..listen, we've complained about the WR position for years now, why not stock pile it?

I can't really believe I am saying this, but I think we are good at receiver right now and he wouldn't be worth the expense.  However, I certainly wouldn't be upset if he came to Miami because he is a very good player.

can he play quarterback?

I wish !!!

can we stop turning every F'in post into something about the quarterback..it's pretty annoying

I'd grab him in a heartbeat.  It will be nearly impossible to double cover him with Brandon Marshall on the opposite side and Davonne Bess in the slot. 

If they pick him up, then let Hartline, Moore, Wallace and Gates battle it out for the two or three remaining spots.

Well then thats a major problem because Ronnie isn't anything special anymore and very average to maybe a poor player entering next season. Not to mention he never stays healthy.  And with what Ricky said after the season about our coaches, I doubt this franchise brings him back.

If we bring one of them back not only is it a mistake, it isn't good for this franchise

I wouldn't say we are "good" at WR. But I don't think Simms-Walker makes us better. He is on par with the Hartline's of the world, and I would rather spend the money elsewhere. Adding Simms-Walker doesn't improve our team. Doesn't improve our offense much. We have guys just like him already at a cheaper price.

Well a lot depends on Daniel Thomas. You think he is starter material or not? If he is, then Ricky is fine as a #2 back. You are way over estimating what Ricky said after the season. No one cares about that except you.

I see what you're saying, but if the price is right (I'm not sure what he makes/would be asking for, sorry lol ) why not bring him aboard?  In this day in age with incentive filled contracts, I'm sure they could figure something out to give our offense another weapon.  I disagree with your comparison to Hartline, I think he's faster and more of a threat than Hartline is on the outside.  Like I said, bringing in another option couldn't hurt..but of course the lock out will have to end in order for ANY of this to happen

ha ha ha, uh, I think the head coach, the assistants, and the GM cares. And maybe Henne and some of the other players he threw under the bus! If you don't think anyone cares your nuts.

Walker has had one good year in his life. The guy has been listed as "questionable" about 75% of the time the past two seasons it seems like. Never 100%. I don't think he is much better than Hartline. The guy is going to want big money and NOT an incentive filled contract, he wants a payday. This will probably be his best shot to get big money in his NFL-life

Fuck Ronnie in the ass with a big fat dildo. I would keep Ricky. He's cheap and he knows what the fuck is up. Not to mention he has a good work ethic.


Not to say, but here we go again. We need a FUCKING quarterback !!! Henne had his time, fuck him with the same dildo that Ronnie pulled out. Give us Thiggy. Give us something............... Thanks for your input tubba, have a good one....................

Ricky is also very OLD by NFL standards. Especially for a RB. He will break down. I wouldn't even consider bringing him back for many reasons, but being old is the main one.

He had his time with a shitty offensive game plan..different game plan will lead to different results..have some patience..but then again judging by the maturity of your post, you don't know the meaning of the word..look it up and then get back to me..stop bailing on every quarterback because his name isn't Dan Marino



Mike-O....Ricky's age is a question mark yes, but in the spirit of friendly argument, he's not the same 34 years old or whatever he is, he's had significant time off over the years (with suspensions, splitting time, etc) and doesn't have the wear and tear on his body that a normal RB of that age would have..Ricky wouldn't be the "franchise RB" anyways so if he's the best option, take him



and BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POINT OF THIS POST..maybe Sims-Walker would be good, maybe he wouldn't..who cares anymore at this point

ricky is serviceable for this type of offense. wannyball 2.0... run left 2 yds, run right 2 yds, short dump pass 2 yds, punt.

We aren't contending for a super bowl. we have questions at QB. Safe to say we are in "rebuilding mode".

No need for a 34 year old RB who badmouthed the QB, coaches, and teammates. No reason to bring him back. If time off is a "factor".....then go sign Tiki Barber for pete sakes. He is well rested after a few years off.

Well if you can badmouth the QB and coaches why can't Ricky ? Actually, mine and your opinion doesn't really matter as far as fixing the team. But Ricky on the other hand knows first hand about what needs to be done and what needs fixing. The coaches and QB should be called out by more of the players in my opinion. You're putting too much into his comments.

Your compaing a "FAN" to a "TEAM CAPTAIN" and the teams "UNION REP".....are you really that stupid? You can't be that f'n stupid?  Well actually you just proved you are!! Nevermind!

I guess you don't believe in Lockeroom Cancers! So when T.O. called Jeff Garcia a fag it was a good thing. Why did they get rid of him? When T.O was picking on McNabb and badmouthing him, hey it was OK. What's the big deal. You really are clueless!!  ::)

unfortunately for team "ground and pound", i think ricky has a role on the team.

now if this was a team playing a modern era style of football, they would have already sent him packing.

There's a difference between criticism and name calling.  Ricky was criticizing.  T.O. was name calling.  So were you.

SPIN....SPIN....SPIN!!!! Criticizing, name calling...its not a positive atmosphere and it creates a lockeroom cancer!!  Also, STOP comparing comments by a FAN to comments by a PLAYER! You both look so silly trying to compare what i say on a message board to what a real player says in a lockeroom to the press that has real consequences!! You both look so f'n stupid doing so!

Take your own advice and look in the mirror.

I'm stupid ? Ha, ha, if you say so. I'm a little too old to worry about ANYONE on the net calling me names. Even if everyone on the whole internet thinks that I am stupid, so be it, I could care less. Your OPINION is of no greater significance or importance than mine or anyone else. The fact that Ricky is a "TEAM CAPTAIN" and most people that have played with him speak highly of him, pretty much ends your "cancer" theory.  Calling someone a fag is totally different than criticizing someone who is not doing their job. If any of my superiors at work fail to do their job and it hinders me from successfully completing my job, I will call their ass out in a heartbeat. I don't call them fags or get personal about it.

BTW, maybe one day SOMEONE will go through puberty and get up enough testosterone and courage to call someone stupid to their face and see what happens. Until that day, I will let you continue amuse and entertain me.

Have a great day and weekend little fella !!!

Give the little guy a break, he's having a bad day. His momma wouldn't let him have any pop tarts for lunch and he is projecting his adolescent anger and frustration on everyone. He does that a lot these days. If it goes on too long, his parents might need to get the boy some counseling or the help he needs. I kind of pity him !!! But then again the entertainment value of his developmental shortcomings kind of makes up for that..............

Can we cut the fucking drama out for once??

MikeO, why do you have to get all bent out of shape every time someone else disagrees with your opinion??  These over the top posts of yours are getting to be unbearable, especially when they suck another member into a pissing contest that causes a thread with a good topic to disintegrate.  

Badger, by responding to one-up him, you're just adding fuel to the fire.   That last post from you is completely uncalled for and is what causes good threads to get locked.

My offer still stands for anyone who wants that boat trip.  So does the rule about personal attacks.  

Another thing to consider is with all of Brandon Marshall's off field problems and drama. We may need to have him in case Marshall has an untimely departure.



Uncalled for ? Really ? I'm not sure how. I don't think anyone should be called names and not respond. As far as I'm concerned the issue is over until the next time he chooses to get personal about things. Just calling it like I see it boss.

Boat trip ?

Yeah, I posted in another thread that I'd take MikeO and everyone that gets into it with him out on my boat one of these days.  We'll load up some fishing lines, throw some Landsharks on ice, and chill for the day.  The one rule is that anyone who personally attacks anyone else will have to swim back to shore.

Good luck with that one, you would probably need to hire a security crew. I pretty sure that he wouldn't go anyhow. I wonder if his last name is "Hoffa" ? ha ha.

Anyhow, back to topic. IMO, If we are going to get anywhere in our division this year, we do need a receiver or two. If not this guy, who do we get ? And like I said earlier, you never know what's gonna happen with Marshall.

A 1 time critical comment does not make a lockeroom cancer.  A cancer is consistently throwing people under the bus. Ricky did it one time as far as I know. Ricky is normally an excellent teammate and has built up his reputation in the locker room. That doesn't just all go out the window because of 1 comment.

1) All it does take is one comment to become a cancer.

2) Combine the 1 comment with all of the failed drug tests, suspensions, and quitting on your team and its more than a one time incident with this clown

MikeO, after all of the "failed drug tests, suspensions, and quitting on his team," Ricky was still one of the most popular players in the clubhouse over the last two years.  That does not sound like someone that is 1 incident away from his last straw.

I think his last straw happened the monday after Week 17 last year.

badger brought up an interesting point too, that being marshall kinda being more of a cancer now for this team than ricky ever was/is.

i'd say, unfortunately given the personality of this team being "ground and pound", ricky has a role on this team where marshall might be expendable. simms walker could be an adequate fill-in with the style of offense this team plays. you could see marhsall not being on this team more so than ricky at this point.

Consdiering Marshall is under contract and Ricky isn't, I disagree. No need for a bad team which is rebuilding to re-sign a  34 year old RB who badmouthed the QB and coaches. No need for it. I can find a back-up RB a lot younger and cheaper with less drama.

I'm no big Marshall fan, and the 30 day window when the offseason begins where Miami can cut him and NOT take a serious cap hit I would seriously considering just flat out releasing the ticking time bomb of Marshall himself for so many reasons. One salary cap, two he underachieved last year, three he is one strike away from a one year suspension, four he has had one too many off the field incidents for my liking. This last one, his fault or not, has shown a new team and enviorment hasn't changed anything with him.

But if I had to predict, Marshall will be on Miami next year and Ricky won't. And if we keep Ricky...its a HUGE mistake on many levels!

im not saying this because i agree with it, but...

this organization is the definition of conservative. the style on offense going into next year is going to be circa 1970's football, "ground and pound". ricky is cheap, knows the system, stays relatively healthy, and has been successful in it. at this point he would be their insurance policy. much like bringing in pennington last year again.

they will explore the market on a 3rd down change of pace back to hopefully compliment the rookie. but if the rook isn't up to speed, and they need help, their entire offensive philosophy is dependent on someone like ricky to execute. he would provide that insurance.

in marshall's case, if they could sign someone that gives them similar traits like simms walker, i could see him being expendable.


again not that i agree with the philosophy, but this is the dolphins we are talking about. the word conservative in the dictionary used to have a pic of wanny next to it, now has ireland/sparano. you have to try and think like them as opposed to thinking logically from a 2011 style of nfl football.

Lex Hilliard can do everything Ricky does at this point in his career at 1/5th the cost and is much younger.

Sure he can. And the world ended yesterday too, didn't you hear ?

Um, Hilliard had the opportunity to show what he could do in '09 after Ronnie went down.

He was so good (ahem) that we basically went to Ricky for the entire run offense (which is why Ricky ended up with over 1000 yards, setting a record in the process).  To repeat: 25-year-old Lex Hilliard could not beat 32-year-old Ricky Williams when they were in direct competition less than two years ago.

I don't understand why Hilliard is even on the team.

because the 09' preseason and season was the be all and end all of everything?!?!  ::)

What does preseason have to do with anything?

The last time Hilliard and Ricky competed for a starting job, during games that mattered, Ricky won.  Handily.  That was less than two years ago.

Since you are the one claiming that Hilliard is better, please explain how you came to that conclusion.  I mean, his stat line for 2010 reads as 0 rush attempts and 1 catch for 3 yards.  Total.

Oh, wait, now I see why you mentioned preseason (when no one else did, to this point).  Are YOU are trying to claim that Hilliard is better based on what he did in the 2010 preseason?  Because he did almost literally NOTHING in the 2010 regular season.

Im claiming you CAN'T live in the past!! That father time caught up with Ricky last year and since we are REBUILDING a youth movement is needed!!!

Hilliard is a better fit for the Dolphins in 2011 than Ricky is. That is the point.

How...

...do you know...

...that Hilliard is not worse than Ricky?

It's one thing to say that Ricky should be gone.  It's another to say that we should replace him with someone that he's recently beaten in an open competition.

There is no evidence to support the claim that Hilliard would be better than Ricky.  If you disagree, cite away.

I think that Hillard would be better than Ricky this year, only because Ricky is old, even for his situation, and Hilliard has some similar physical attributes that Ricky has and is younger.  That being said, anyone from D. Williams, M. Bush or A. Bradshaw would be an upgrade over Hilliard, so I'm pretty confident that FA will prove our solution to a compliment to Thomas in our backfield.

About Sims-Walker, I'd be happy as hell to have him on our team.  He's fast, runs good routes and is a veteran.  Moore and Wallace are the odd men out.  Hartline is average and I don't think he'll be anything but that.  If Moore or Wallace can prove to be better in the little bit of off season we have, than get rid of Hartline....all of them have had ample time to prove who should stay on the team.  MSW is better than all of them IMO.

Nobody said replace him with Hilliard. I want us to go sign Reggie Bush, Michael Bush or someone else. But I am also saying at worst case Lex Hilliard in the year 2011 when Ricky is an old man by NFL standards, I would even take Lex over Ricky. It's not like we are on the doorstep of the Super Bowl. We are rebuilding. YOUTH MOVEMENT time!!!