Title: Bills new Uniforms Post by: MikeO on July 03, 2011, 07:22:49 am The White Helmet is cool and a good look. Aside from that they are the ugliest damn things I have ever seen. They look like a team from the MAC now.
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Dave Gray on July 03, 2011, 03:19:15 pm I am fine with them. They look normal, kinda simple, which I like.
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 03, 2011, 03:40:47 pm I looked at them and had absolutely no reaction. Neither bad nor good.
Without looking up their old unis, I doubt I could mention even a single change (aside from MikeO's helmet insinuation). Maybe they used blue away pants? Or that could've been a long time ago *shrug*. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: bsfins on July 03, 2011, 05:36:28 pm 3 of the 4 teams in the AFC east now wear white helmets.... :-\
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Sunstroke on July 03, 2011, 06:48:15 pm Not a big fan of the Bills' new uniforms, but since I don't have to cheer for the players wearing them, I really don't care either way. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Spider-Dan on July 03, 2011, 06:52:29 pm 3 of the 4 teams in the AFC east now wear white helmets.... :-\ That was actually the reason the Bills switched to the red helmets (back when Bills, Dolphins, Colts, Patriots all had white helms).The QB of the Bills was color-blind and he was having a hard time telling the teams apart. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Thundergod on July 03, 2011, 08:37:55 pm These aint new, throwback to the 70's-80's unis. Ugly. Go forward people, not back. Looking at you: Jets, Giants, Chargers...
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: MikeO on July 03, 2011, 08:59:33 pm The Bills look like 90% of the high school teams who play in this country. Uni's are bland, dull, and don't stand out in anyway.
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Spider-Dan on July 04, 2011, 01:41:10 am The previous Bills uniforms looked like they were straight out of the CFL, though:
(http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00359/GC159-FBO_CFL_Gr_359307gm-f.jpg) (http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Buffalo+Bills+v+Denver+Broncos+VDeFtPdf51Tl.jpg) (http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/c0/c0098a1a2b4e9c350ef8300c0aacf985/zeroth_down_the_montreal_alouettes_threepeat_quest.jpg) (http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Buffalo+Bills+v+Denver+Broncos+6qP_UjMfO4Kl.jpg) (http://sportsfullcircle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/anthony-calvillo.jpg) (http://images.paraorkut.com/img/football/images/l/lee_evans_buffalo_bills-759.jpg) Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Brian Fein on July 04, 2011, 01:58:34 am The new Uni's look just like the old ones.
Meh (http://prod.static.bills.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/BUF/photos/clubimages/2011/06-June/CM4_6265A--nfl_medium_540_360.JPG) Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: mecadonzilla on July 05, 2011, 10:07:08 am The Bills previous uniforms were amongst the worst in the league. Just about any change would be positive.
I must say that I love the new unis. It merges the best of the old with some new elements. However, I'd rather they went with the standing, grazing red buffalo instead of the rushing bison on the helmet. Love the 60s color, though, and am thoroughly glad to be rid of those red helmets and the garish rags they've worn the last few seasons. I think it's awesome some NFL owners are finally listening to the fans and going retro with their uniforms. The classic uniforms of the AFL in the 60s were some of the best that have ever been in this league, and it's nice to see a return to that styling. The Chargers screwed up their attempt to restyle in that mold by not going closer back to the original, but like the Bills, any change was a good change. Now if only the Patriots would get rid of their monstrosities... ::) I'm very happy the NFL is looking to its past for uniform designs. Simplicity is the key to a good look in a football uniform, and I've yet to see any "new/hip" uniforms look decent on any football team. Fashion trends come and go, but the more you stick with the basics, you're less likely to wear an embarrassment. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Pats2006 on July 05, 2011, 12:29:27 pm The new Uni's look just like the old ones. Meh (http://prod.static.bills.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/BUF/photos/clubimages/2011/06-June/CM4_6265A--nfl_medium_540_360.JPG) Looked like Drew Bledsoe pats jersey. Had to look again.. (http://boston.sportsthenandnow.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1993.drew-bledsoe.jpg) Dont like them.. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 05, 2011, 03:43:25 pm Looked like Drew Bledsoe pats jersey. Had to look again.. The only thing those two jersey's have in common is that the whole base is blue, in addition to the red and white. In other words, they both look like EVERY plain blue jersey with a red-white-n-blue scheme, which (by the bye) is the most popular uniform color scheme (at least according to the repeated rantings of Gregg Easterbrook / TMQ). The Bills jersey uses a different font, inverted colors for the numbers, team name above the numbers, stripes on the sleeves, striped collar, different NFL logo placement, and numbers on the shoulders that actually match the ones on the chest (unlike the Patsies jersey that, for some reason, switches to white instead of red numbers and drops the outline, making it look like it was done with sports tape). Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Spider-Dan on July 05, 2011, 07:16:30 pm There are many different shades of red and blue. The jerseys Pats2006 posted bear more than a passing resemblance.
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 05, 2011, 08:40:44 pm There are many different shades of red and blue. The jerseys Pats2006 posted bear more than a passing resemblance. Much of that is lighting, but regardless, the Bills have been playing in jerseys more closely resembling their new one for decades. And Royal Blue is probably the most common blue variety, so nothing special there. In fact, I'd argue that the Giants jersey of the mid-late 70s and pretty much all the way up to their retro-switch in 2000 or so, looks far more like the Bills jersey than the Patriots one. Those Giants jersey's had bigger numbers, but they were the right color (white with red border -- on both chest and shoulder), the old ones had the striped neck, they all had stripes on the sleeves and no other "modern" crap (wedges of color). Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Spider-Dan on July 06, 2011, 12:11:14 pm Royal blue might have been common before, but navy blue is the new black now. I think the only teams that still use royal blue (excepting the Bills) are the Colts and the Giants.
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 06, 2011, 04:33:16 pm Royal blue might have been common before, but navy blue is the new black now. I think the only teams that still use royal blue (excepting the Bills) are the Colts and the Giants. So only 10% of the league? And since we're not talking about which *current* uniform it looks like, the current status is pretty much irrelevant anyway. But since you brought it up, what teams use navy blue currently? The Bills actually switched AWAY from it with their new unis. (I'm having to look this up, of course): Seahawks: "Seahawks blue", with Navy trim and pants. Bears: "Dark Navy". I'd actually forgotten about them, despite ALWAYS having been Navy. Cowboys: Navy. Switched from Royal to "Dark Blue" for the '97 season and then to Navy in '02. Broncos: "Broncos Navy". Switched away from Royal for the '97 season. Lions: "Honolulu Blue". "It's the kind of blue, I am told, that will match with silver." (Lions VP and GM at the time, who chose the color.) Texans: "Deep Steel Blue". Not quite Navy, but close to my untrained eye. Chargers: Navy and "Powder Blue". Added their Powder Blue's in '07. Colts: Royal Blue. Patriots: "Nautical Blue" (since 2000). They couldn't be bothered to just call it Navy? Really? Giants: "Dark Blue". Looks pretty much like Royal Blue to me. Titans: Navy and "Titans Blue". The conclusion of this little excursion: Navy dominates and has for a long time. There was a switch away from Royal Blue about 10-15 years ago (which matches up well with what you said). The Lions' Honolulu Blue looks a lot like the Powder Blue of the Chargers... which is pretty much just baby blue, IMHO ;). The same with "Titans Blue". The Seahawks, who used to be royal blue, are going with a new uniform design in 2012, coinciding with the switch to Nike. Hopefully, they'll at least get rid of the nauseating green. Another completely irrelevant historical tidbit: The Colts actually had Navy and White uniforms for a couple of years way back in the 50s. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Phishfan on July 06, 2011, 04:56:07 pm What would we consider the Dolphins blue? I have heard it called navy, but it looks a different shade to me personally.
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Brian Fein on July 06, 2011, 05:25:41 pm The Dolphins don't have blue jerseys.
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 06, 2011, 05:31:09 pm What would we consider the Dolphins blue? I have heard it called navy, but it looks a different shade to me personally. Officially, it's Navy, but considering that it's only used for two pencil-thin stripes on the helmet and a bit of shadow on the numbers, there's just not a big enough patch of it that I can tell if its any different than all the other dark blues. If it weren't for the official colors naming it, I wouldn't even have known that it wasn't black. Looks black on the jersey I have and the very, very dark blue on the cap (or maybe slightly faded black). Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Phishfan on July 06, 2011, 06:15:39 pm The Dolphins don't have blue jerseys. I am assuming we are talking about more than just the main color of the jersey itself based on the fact that the words "Navy trim" were included in the post. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 06, 2011, 06:18:37 pm I am assuming we are talking about more than just the main color of the jersey itself based on the fact that the words "Navy trim" were included in the post. In fairness, all the teams listed have some kind of blue as a "main" color. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Phishfan on July 06, 2011, 06:28:59 pm Are we really going to pick this question apart?
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Spider-Dan on July 06, 2011, 06:43:02 pm The Dolphins' blue is navy.
(http://www.fanzz.com/mainstreet/get_image.aspx?domain=fanzz.com&image_guid=2903fa01-eced-467b-b203-4e6fb5478052&size=1) Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Spider-Dan on July 06, 2011, 06:55:59 pm The Lions' Honolulu Blue looks a lot like the Powder Blue of the Chargers... which is pretty much just baby blue, IMHO ;). The same with "Titans Blue". I'd say the Lions are electric blue:(http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Tattoo/Alla-Prima/Electric-Blue/Electric-Blue.gif) the Titans are sky blue: (http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Acrylic/Jacquard/Textile/Sky-Blue/Sky-Blue.gif) and the Panthers are cyan: (http://www.ministryimagery.org/ImagePreview/Basic/Gradient/MI_B_G_GradientCyan.jpg) Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 06, 2011, 07:05:33 pm Spider, your color samples don't match the material I have.
(http://www.ssur.org/research/TeamColors/Football_Outdoor/NationalFootballLeague/images/CarolinaPanthers_FRC_9999_SOL_SRGB.png) (http://www.ssur.org/research/TeamColors/Football_Outdoor/NationalFootballLeague/images/DetroitLions_FRC_9999_SOL_SRGB.png) Anyway, the names I used above are the official team color names. IMHO, they are often rather dumb. "Panther Blue" for the light blue of the Panthers, for example. I'd certainly argue that it's hardly CYAN. If we're talking RGB color composition, it has much less green in it than cyan has. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: Spider-Dan on July 06, 2011, 07:44:31 pm I'm not sure those palettes are accurate. What is the source for that?
(http://www.wholesaletopjerseys.com/upimages/NFL%20Jerseys/Carolina%20Panthers/NFL/NFL%20Carolina%20Panthers%2043%20Harris%20Reebok%20Jerseys.jpg) (http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/d/detroit_lions_jersey-9134.jpg) Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 06, 2011, 07:54:47 pm It's from ColorWerx, formerly known as the Society for Sports Uniforms Research:
http://www.ssur.org/research/TeamColors/Football_Outdoor/NationalFootballLeague/NationalFootballLeague.htm A couple of things regarding colors on monitors: Almost no monitors are even REMOTELY correctly calibrated to display colors accurately. It's really, really bad. And that's disregarding the poor color capabilities of a lot of LCD monitors in the first place (especially TN panels). Then there's the issue of gamma correction and, for photos, lighting. All of it makes it pretty nigh impossible to compare an RGB value from one source to the shirt color from a photo. These guys at SSUR seem like they've put a lot of effort into what they're doing, so I'm going to assume their colors are at least "internally consistent". Sticking with them as a source, here are 10 teams with blueish colors: (http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/fyodor_/blueish-1.jpg) EDIT: The colors from "my" source don't seem to be all that far from the jerseys you posted... just by eyeballing, anyway. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: masterfins on July 06, 2011, 09:51:30 pm Okay, some of you guys have waaayyyyy too much time on your hands to do all this research on uniform colors.
Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: DZA on July 09, 2011, 01:17:22 pm The Dolphins' blue is navy. (http://www.fanzz.com/mainstreet/get_image.aspx?domain=fanzz.com&image_guid=2903fa01-eced-467b-b203-4e6fb5478052&size=1) I used to have this jersey, I wonder why they never used this alternate color scheme Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 09, 2011, 01:32:04 pm Patriots: "Nautical Blue" (since 2000). They couldn't be bothered to just call it Navy? Really? There are multiple shades of blue that can be correctly called Navy blue. Nautical blue is smaller subset of Navy blue and refers to a specific shade. So while it is correct to call the NEP uniform navy blue there are teams with navy blue uniforms that are not nautical blue. Title: Re: Bills new Uniforms Post by: fyo on July 09, 2011, 06:00:10 pm There are multiple shades of blue that can be correctly called Navy blue. Nautical blue is smaller subset of Navy blue and refers to a specific shade. So while it is correct to call the NEP uniform navy blue there are teams with navy blue uniforms that are not nautical blue. I'm in favor of abolishing all but 3 shades of blue. You can get light, medium and dark. Call them what you want ;) |