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Title: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: jtex316 on August 03, 2011, 09:55:10 pm
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-hyde-brett-farvre-miami-dolphins-020110803-6,0,5554036.column

Jason Taylor, Tiki Barber, and now Brett Favre.

This team would be awesome in 2005. 6 years too late.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: MikeO on August 03, 2011, 09:59:53 pm
I know its just a goofy colum by David Hyde, but nothing surprises me with this group anymore. NOTHING!!  IF that notion were to be even entertained, Ross has to put Ireland/Sparano out of their misery like NOW. Give Nolan the head coaching job. Let Carl Peterson run the GM job for a year. Tell him pretty much do nothing at this point. Just handle the day to day paperwork stuff and do nothing.

Bringing back a lame duck coach and GM has killed this organization. Considering Tiki Baber, signing Marc Colombo, are you kidding me?! We are under the cap and we do nothing. Not giving Solai a long-term deal to reduce his cap number almost in half to free up some SERIOUS cap space. What does Ireland do all day? Just watch film on recently released offensive linemen to see if they are worth signing? Oh wait, we just see who Dallas cuts and then pick up the phone and sign them.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: tubba marxxx on August 03, 2011, 10:23:59 pm
I fucking hate the media


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Frimp on August 03, 2011, 11:14:38 pm
Favre as the starter
Marino as the older backup
Tarkenton as the veteran backup.

Sure, why not. ;)


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: yuppi on August 04, 2011, 04:41:28 am
We have a top 5 defense that will only get better.
Favre can still play.
Idk guys, wr just need a year til we draft Barkley


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: tubba marxxx on August 04, 2011, 11:23:15 am
^^ wow

see last year, Favre can ABSOLUTELY NOT still play..I can't believe this is even a thought


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: mecadonzilla on August 04, 2011, 03:57:30 pm
Agreed.  Favre doesn't have much left in the tank.

But even with Favre putting the ball up for grabs half the time, he still gives this team a better chance to win than Henne.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Pappy13 on August 04, 2011, 04:22:47 pm
Wait a minute...some of you would consider practically the only guy in the NFL last year with a worse TD/INT ratio than Henne? That's called crazy.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 04, 2011, 04:44:57 pm
Wait a minute...some of you would consider practically the only guy in the NFL last year with a worse TD/INT ratio than Henne? That's called crazy.

That is not completely true. 

There were four QBs with worse TD/Int ratios than Henne that threw enough passes to get a rating for the seaons....

Matt Hasselbeck
Derek Anderson
Brett Favre
Jimmy Clausen



Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: fyo on August 04, 2011, 06:21:51 pm
Matt Hasselbeck
Derek Anderson
Brett Favre
Jimmy Clausen

Coincidentally, two of those guys were rumored to be prospects for a Dolphins gig until they (fortunately) got snapped up. Considering that the third is retired and the fourth not available, that's impressive.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: dolfan13 on August 04, 2011, 07:35:47 pm
could this really be something the team is considering??

omar kelly's article is pretty interesting -> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-brett-favre-miami-dolphins-07711,0,3172323.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-brett-favre-miami-dolphins-07711,0,3172323.story)

i mean it certainly seems like the dolphins are not happy right now with the qb position:

=====================================

"I can't rule anything out," coach Tony Sparano said when asked directly about a column the Sun-Sentinel published, advocating on Favre's behalf.

Sparano acknowledged that the former Michigan standout, who is entering the final year of his contract, is the team's starting quarterback "right now."

When asked if the team's finished hunting for a quarterback Sparano didn't even try to sidestep the question."We always have our eyes open," Sparano said, "and are always exploring possibilities."
=====================================

this season is building up to be a train wreck.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: MikeO on August 04, 2011, 08:27:10 pm


this season is building up to be a train wreck.

The season was over in January. We should have overpaid for Harbaugh or just fired Sparano. The ONLY thing we couldn't do is bring Sparano back.

We have a head coach fighting for his job who needs to win at all costs. YET, the GM fighting for his job is being judged on his moves. So if he makes stupid moves (win at all cost moves) he won't get another GM job ever again. Ireland would rather be a smart GM, have the Fins lose, so if he gets fired he can say....not my fault!! I was a good GM who didn't overpay for this or that and valued draft picks. Hence, he sets himself up for his NEXT job.

2 people fighting for the jobs with 2 OPPOSITE philosphy's. IT CAN'T WORK!! IT WON'T WORK!!


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Landshark on August 04, 2011, 09:44:44 pm
Brett Favre is NOT going to be a Dolphin.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2011/08/brett-favre-is-not-coming-to-the-dolphins-period.html


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: mecadonzilla on August 04, 2011, 10:23:16 pm
That's fine.  Never wanted his drama and circus sideshow coming to town.  Just somebody...anybody...please come rescue us from Henne. :'(


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: tubba marxxx on August 04, 2011, 10:25:39 pm
^^ I hope to God Henne lights it up this year so all you people stfu..I'm so sick of hearing it


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Landshark on August 04, 2011, 10:27:28 pm
^^ I hope to God Henne lights it up this year so all you people stfu..I'm so sick of hearing it

I hope so too. 


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: mecadonzilla on August 04, 2011, 10:35:09 pm
Me, too.

But then again, Bigfoot could be real and living in the woods outside my house.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Frimp on August 04, 2011, 11:24:46 pm
^^ I hope to God Henne lights it up this year so all you people stfu..I'm so sick of hearing it

QFT!


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Pappy13 on August 05, 2011, 10:23:48 am
That is not completely true. 

There were four QBs with worse TD/Int ratios than Henne that threw enough passes to get a rating for the seaons....

Matt Hasselbeck
Derek Anderson
Brett Favre
Jimmy Clausen
What!! There were QB's that were WORSE than Henne. IMPOSSIBLE!!!

/sarcasm off


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: dolfan13 on August 05, 2011, 10:32:41 am
^^^ not many...


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Pappy13 on August 05, 2011, 10:35:19 am
^^ And yet some of you would like Miami to sign them...


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on August 05, 2011, 01:51:48 pm
^^ I hope to God Henne lights it up this year so all you people stfu..I'm so sick of hearing it

Agreed......Every fucking thread someone has to chime in about how much Henne sucks.....we get it you don't fucking like him......he is as of now our QB as a real fan of the Dolphins I am going to support him and hope for the best. He is not the worst QB we have had here and his is not the best but he is our only option right now.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: mecadonzilla on August 05, 2011, 03:26:52 pm
I root for Henne to succeed too, so I guess, I am also a real fan.  (Because clearly, that's the only real determining factor, right?)  I was one of his biggest supporters on this entire board last year because I wanted to see what he had.  I've seen enough now.

But any thread that talks about our QB situation will end up at this team's biggest weakness:  Henne.

I hope he lights it up also, but those chances are likely slim to none.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: badger6 on August 05, 2011, 03:41:21 pm
^^ I hope to God Henne lights it up this year so all you people stfu..I'm so sick of hearing it

He that lives upon hope will die fasting. ~ Benjamin Franklin


but those chances are likely slim to none.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner....................... ......


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Sunstroke on August 05, 2011, 04:57:36 pm
He that lives upon hope will die fasting. ~ Benjamin Franklin

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things...and no good thing ever dies."
~ Andy Dufresne

or, with a wee bit of license...

"I wish I could tell you that Henne fought the good fight, and the Fans let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but the NFL is no fairy tale world."
~ Ellis Boyd Redding (sorta)




Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Brian Fein on August 05, 2011, 05:13:09 pm
^^ I hope to God Henne lights it up this year so all you people stfu..I'm so sick of hearing it
Realistically, what does Henne have to do to silence the haters?

Henne throws for 4000 yards, 28 TD's and 6 INT's - does that shut them up?

They will say it was an anomaly, a fluke, it was cloudy those days and Henne can't play when its sunny.  Whatever. 

Haters will hate - all the time, no matter what.  Some people made up their mind on draft day 2008 that Henne sucks.  Those people will never be satisfied.  Ever.  Period.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: mecadonzilla on August 05, 2011, 05:26:26 pm
I wouldn't put my self in the Henne Hater club because, simply, he had his chances and has failed.  I wished he hadn't and I only wish for him to be successful in the future, but...(insert Henne hate here).

For me to to think of him as a success would actually be statistically simple:  Win games.  I don't care what his numbers are because the only stat that matters is the "W" to me.  If he can win games he's supposed to or if he can win games that he's not supposed to...or hell, maybe steal victory from the jaws of defeat a couple of times I'd be happy.  If this team is a playoff team come January with Henne at the helm, then I will shut up about him.

However, based on what we've seen, I think these relatively meager improvements are highly unlikely.  I guess that makes me a "hater" or whatever that vague/useless term means.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: MikeO on August 05, 2011, 06:12:35 pm
Realistically, what does Henne have to do to silence the haters?

Henne throws for 4000 yards, 28 TD's and 6 INT's - does that shut them up?

They will say it was an anomaly, a fluke, it was cloudy those days and Henne can't play when its sunny.  Whatever. 

Haters will hate - all the time, no matter what.  Some people made up their mind on draft day 2008 that Henne sucks.  Those people will never be satisfied.  Ever.  Period.

Not about stats, hell its not even about wins/losses, its very simple!

Don't LOSE us games. Last year Henne LOST games for this team himself. Defense played well but Henne turned the ball over at the wrong time at the worst possible time. Just don't make the play that costs us to LOSE the game. If he can do that we will be fine.

Henne can improve, play well, and we can still lose games for other reaons (bad WR play, defense, special teams..etc). But HE can't be the reason we lose! That's what will make everyone happy

Im not so sure he can do that though. Hope Im wrong.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 05, 2011, 06:49:10 pm
Realistically, what does Henne have to do to silence the haters?

Henne throws for 4000 yards, 28 TD's and 6 INT's - does that shut them up?

They will say it was an anomaly, a fluke, it was cloudy those days and Henne can't play when its sunny.  Whatever.
And yet strangely enough, I didn't hear San Diego fans saying that about Drew Brees in 2004.

The optimists claim that the Henne haters will hate him no matter what he does.  But these same people weren't hating on Noodles when he won the division, now were they?  And he was a lousy, stinkin' Jet.

P.S. If Henne wins like Sanchez has been, I still won't be happy.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 06, 2011, 05:26:22 pm
Looks like Favre is not interested:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6837873/brett-favre-not-interested-joining-miami-dolphins

Retired quarterback Brett Favre quashed any rumors he may be thinking of a return to the NFL on Friday.

Favre, who had been linked to the Miami Dolphins on Thursday, told the Miami Herald he isn't planning any more comebacks.

"I haven't heard anything, and I don't have any interest," Favre, 41, told the Herald when tracked down in Hattiesburg, Miss., on Friday.

"You're from Miami? Don't you have anything better to do?"

The Dolphins signed veteran quarterback Kevin O'Connell on Friday. The Dolphins' roster also includes Chad Henne, Matt Moore and rookie Pat Devlin.

Dolphins coach Tony Sparano fueled speculation Thursday when asked if he would "rule out any possibility of interest" in Favre.

"I can't rule anything out. OK? So, I mean, we don't rule anything out," Sparano said. "I don't know how you want me to answer that. That'll be all over the news now too, but I'm giving you the only answer I can give you."

An 11-time Pro Bowl selection, Favre retired in January after 20 seasons with the Atlanta Falcons, Green Bay Packers, New York Jets and Minnesota Vikings.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: tepop84 on August 06, 2011, 08:40:09 pm
Looks like Favre is not interested:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6837873/brett-favre-not-interested-joining-miami-dolphins

Retired quarterback Brett Favre quashed any rumors he may be thinking of a return to the NFL on Friday.

Favre, who had been linked to the Miami Dolphins on Thursday, told the Miami Herald he isn't planning any more comebacks.

"I haven't heard anything, and I don't have any interest," Favre, 41, told the Herald when tracked down in Hattiesburg, Miss., on Friday.

"You're from Miami? Don't you have anything better to do?"

The Dolphins signed veteran quarterback Kevin O'Connell on Friday. The Dolphins' roster also includes Chad Henne, Matt Moore and rookie Pat Devlin.

Dolphins coach Tony Sparano fueled speculation Thursday when asked if he would "rule out any possibility of interest" in Favre.

"I can't rule anything out. OK? So, I mean, we don't rule anything out," Sparano said. "I don't know how you want me to answer that. That'll be all over the news now too, but I'm giving you the only answer I can give you."

An 11-time Pro Bowl selection, Favre retired in January after 20 seasons with the Atlanta Falcons, Green Bay Packers, New York Jets and Minnesota Vikings.


I bet one of the stipulations on his punsihment for the sexting last year was that he retire at the end of the year.  He did get off light.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: hordman on August 06, 2011, 09:40:24 pm
Agreed......Every fucking thread someone has to chime in about how much Henne sucks.....we get it you don't fucking like him......he is as of now our QB as a real fan of the Dolphins I am going to support him and hope for the best. He is not the worst QB we have had here and his is not the best but he is our only option right now.

Amen, brother, Amen.

here's to a successful season for Henne and for him to shut everyone up!

Go Phins!!!!!!


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: tepop84 on August 06, 2011, 10:58:23 pm
henne is already shutting the fans up.  he has turned the dolphins into an irrelevant team that nobody talks about.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Landshark on August 07, 2011, 12:02:58 am
I bet one of the stipulations on his punsihment for the sexting last year was that he retire at the end of the year.  He did get off light.

Which is why I don't want him as a Dolphin.  Knowing him, he'll text a picture of his package to Jennifer Lopez/Gloria Estefan and draw the ire of Marc Anthony/Emilio Estefan in the process.


Title: Re: I've officially seen it all. Hyde: Why Not Favre?
Post by: Tenshot13 on August 07, 2011, 12:33:00 am
I've mentioned how well he has done in practice in another thread...I know...practice...we talking about PRACTICE? and blah and blah....anyways, let me ask you all a question...

What are Henne's strengths?  Short and intermediate passes.  Well, our new OC is running a west coast type offense that specializes in...wait for it....short and intermediate passes.

What are Henne's weaknesses?  Throwing the deep ball and making bad decisions late in games.  From what I've heard, Henne has been hitting Gates and Hartline on deep throws on more than just occasion.  So that just leaves decision making.  This is the only factor we can't predict until we start playing the season.  We can make a guess due to his history, but won't know until the season is under way.

So to recap, we have a system in place that plays to Henne's strengths and he has improved his deep ball at least in practice.  The only X factor going into this season is his decision making, which I'll admit is huge and the most important factor.  I think he is going to be good this year, but for someone to say he is going to be bad has just as much weight.  We have to wait and see, and while I'm waiting and seeing, I'm going to support our QB and not  fall into "The Sky is Falling" bullshit that a lot of fans are spewing.