Title: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: dolfan13 on August 16, 2011, 11:54:37 am As a dolphin fan to the bone, I want to see Henne play well this game.
Daboll's schemes look pretty good, and he will have all his weapons to work with. I want to see Henne overcome all this BS, grow some stones, and lead this team with a good performance on the field. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: fyo on August 16, 2011, 12:56:26 pm I don't expect we'll see much of Daboll's "schemes" in a preseason game. The only flavor in August is "vanilla".
Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: dolfan13 on August 16, 2011, 02:01:27 pm i wouldn't agree with that... this team on offense needs as much reps with the real playbook as possible given the shortened amount of time to get ready for when the bullets fly for real.
henne and the offense need to get off to a fast start this season. they can't afford to learn on the job when the real games count. the early part of this schedule is no cake walk, and if they stroll into it going 1-4 in the first 5 games things will get real ugly. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: mecadonzilla on August 16, 2011, 04:45:08 pm I think it's important to this team's psyche for Henne to lead them to some kind of success. Play as long as the half or more and really try to light it up. Give this team something to rally and build around.
They're gonna have to hit the ground running come week 1. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Dave Gray on August 16, 2011, 04:55:41 pm What would you consider a successful game for Henne?
I just want to see him hit open receivers and not throw picks. I tell ya, it's very disconcerting to see him make bad throws. Even the ones that aren't his FAULT (and I agree that they aren't), he's at least partially responsible for. Last week, that pass that bounced off of our TE, if it were throw to the correct spot and dropped, would've fallen harmlessly to the ground. Instead, it bounces off the back shoulder and pops straight up in the air. As a TE, you still have to catch that pass, but a better throw makes the ball easier to catch, and less problematic, if you don't. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: mecadonzilla on August 16, 2011, 07:48:55 pm At this point, a success for Henne is not throwing an INT. A couple of touchdowns would be nice, but just some nice throws and no picks would be, IMHO, a huge success. The bar is set sooooo low for this guy that meeting minimal expectations might shine positive light on him.
Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Pappy13 on August 17, 2011, 03:34:40 pm I tell ya, it's very disconcerting to see him make bad throws. Even the ones that aren't his FAULT (and I agree that they aren't), he's at least partially responsible for. Last week, that pass that bounced off of our TE, if it were throw to the correct spot and dropped, would've fallen harmlessly to the ground. Instead, it bounces off the back shoulder and pops straight up in the air. As a TE, you still have to catch that pass, but a better throw makes the ball easier to catch, and less problematic, if you don't. I completely agree Dave that the throw could have been better, but Henne seems snake bit. I see guys like Sanchez throw 5 passes a game that are wounded ducks that seem to find the ground and Henne throws a pass that's 1 foot from where it should be and it's picked off. The guy HAS to be the unluckiest guy I've ever seen. Sooner or later that's GOT to start evening out.Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Doc-phin on August 19, 2011, 11:46:44 am A brief scouting report on the Panthers...
I watched the early part of the Panthers 1st preseason game to get a feel for what we would encounter and this is what I noticed. - Clausen did have a silly interception, but looked much better than expected. He was poised and accurate with all but one pass. - Newton was really impressive. His first drive had every chance of being an awesome touchdown drive if it hadn't been for a couple of OUTSTANDING plays by a few corner backs in the red zone. Newton was excellent in the pocket and didn't take off to run. - Their tight ends really seemed to be a primary weapon. Clausen particularly leaned on them and they delivered for the most part. - Williams was running very well. He broke a couple of excellent runs early. Their O-line was way ahead of ours at that point. - They have a pretty good returner that they are jazzed about. There return blocking was pretty crappy and he still was able to get to the edge. - Their defense wasn't weak but it wasn't strong. They played solid, but not top tier. Again, I didn't watch the second half at all. This time Newton is with the 1st team so it is a bit of a switch up. Newton's stat line is a bit deceiving. His passes were much more accurate and creative than expected and he was aggressive at pushing the ball downfield on several attempts. Their receivers seemed pretty good for no big names. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Sunstroke on August 19, 2011, 08:01:40 pm Really impressed with the Miami offense during the first two drives of this game. Reggie Bush looks good, Henne is making smart decisions and hitting his receivers. He just had a play where the pocket collapsed, and Henne slid up and delivered a strike down the middle to Marshall. It isn't a "clicking perfectly" level, but it is a lot better than what I saw from this unit in the first preseason game. Only a couple of penalties from backup OT Murtha on the negative side. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: MikeO on August 19, 2011, 08:07:02 pm Bush can take a 2 yard dump pass into a 20 yard gain. That will be our most succesful play all year. Not complaining but I expect to see a lot of that. Bush will earn his paycheck this season!
P.S....daniel thomas looks terrible Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Sunstroke on August 19, 2011, 08:19:11 pm ^^^ No argument on Thomas...he hasn't shown much at all so far this preseason. Vontae has made two great defensive stops on 3rd down to end Panthers drives. Sky's the limit for Vontae this season...he could step up into that upper echelon of NFL corners. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: MikeO on August 19, 2011, 08:36:11 pm Lex Hillard is our #2 RB on this team. He's just better than everyone not named Bush
Fasano stinks as well. Get a real TE and this offense won't be terrible this year. maybe not great, but not terrible Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: dolphinfamily on August 19, 2011, 09:14:26 pm did i hear correctly the dolphins were in a 5 wide receiver set? when was the last time that happened?
Im getting pumped up for the season. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Sunstroke on August 19, 2011, 10:45:09 pm Good performance by Henne...and Daniel Thomas even woke up a bit. Starting D didn't give up a point, and only one turnover...fumble by Moore when he got sacked. Solid "we can build off it" win for Miami, imo... Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: MikeO on August 19, 2011, 11:29:22 pm o-line played better. Murtha stinks. If he is forced into any action this year due to injury we are screwed royally. Dude had 3 penalties alone in the 1st half.
Liked what I saw out of Pouncey aside from one high snap. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: mecadonzilla on August 20, 2011, 01:38:29 am I might get used to the high snaps. That was his modus operandi at Florida last season.
Henne was passable tonight. I'd say it was a success. NOW...time to build on it. Reggie Bush seems like a good get in yardage leagues >:D Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Spider-Dan on August 20, 2011, 02:07:21 am o-line played better. Murtha stinks. If he is forced into any action this year due to injury we are screwed royally. Dude had 3 penalties alone in the 1st half. Not many teams can survive losing an All-Pro player at a key position, so I think that's a risk that's always out there.The Colts don't have a quality backup for Manning because if he goes down, their season is flushed anyway. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: yuppi on August 20, 2011, 05:31:57 am I promise some of you wouldn't know football between hey arnolds head and some real pigskin
Murtha was easily our most effective blocker. He's showing plenty of upside and flushed out carolina's pro bowl DE all day. Excellent blocking both on passing and rushing downs. Watch the replay if you have too the kid is a stud. Last year the FO had me scratching my head on why they picked him up but their vision is coming into fruition. He has a few penalties but all were mental errors and not "true" drive killers like a personal foul or the dreaded holding call. Great showing. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: MikeO on August 20, 2011, 06:13:55 am 3 penalties in a quarter in a half for one guy....NOT GOOD! You can try and spin it anyway you want
Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: BigDaddyFin on August 20, 2011, 09:40:55 am why the hell is Murtha playing? Did we lose Jake Long for the year because I couldn't find anything on PFW or ESPN about him being hurt.
I liked the playcalling a lot better last night but maybe that's just because it worked. Reggie Bush played well. I like that we threw deep a couple times in the first half even though doofus dropped one and henne missed a guy who was wide open on another. I like that when Henne wasn't sure what to do with the ball, he took off with it on occasion. There's nothing wrong with that. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: MikeO on August 20, 2011, 10:04:01 am Long is on PUP. If he isn't practicing after next weeks game, the Fins will keep him on PUP and he will miss the first 6 games of the year
Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Phishfan on August 20, 2011, 11:58:15 am I promise some of you wouldn't know football between hey arnolds head and some real pigskin Such a brash statement from someone who followed up with this He has a few penalties but all were mental errors and not "true" drive killers like a personal foul or the dreaded holding call. When he did have a holding penalty but that wasn't as bad as his illegal use of hands which did kill a drive. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: masterfins on August 20, 2011, 01:21:59 pm I promise some of you wouldn't know football between hey arnolds head and some real pigskin Murtha was easily our most effective blocker. He's showing plenty of upside and flushed out carolina's pro bowl DE all day. Excellent blocking both on passing and rushing downs. Watch the replay if you have too the kid is a stud. Last year the FO had me scratching my head on why they picked him up but their vision is coming into fruition. He has a few penalties but all were mental errors and not "true" drive killers like a personal foul or the dreaded holding call. Great showing. I like your optimism. It's a nice change from some of the posters that thrive on finding one or two mistakes, then beat it like a dead horse for months. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: Landshark on August 20, 2011, 01:23:59 pm daniel thomas looks terrible ^^^ No argument on Thomas...he hasn't shown much at all so far this preseason. Were you guys watching the same game as me? I saw Thomas make a few nifty runs up the middle to move the chains. 12 carries for 52 yards overall. That's 4.34 yards per carry. Not bad for a power back. Title: Re: Preseason 2011: Panthers at Dolphins Post by: JVides on August 20, 2011, 02:19:27 pm ^^^he picked it up in the second quarter. Thomas started off poorly.
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