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Title: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: bsfins on August 31, 2011, 10:54:53 pm
You were just granted the newest MLB franchise,and you can start a franchise with any MLB player right now....Who would you start your franchise with?


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: Sunstroke on September 01, 2011, 10:43:58 pm

Man, oh man...part of me wants to go with the most talented young rising star pitcher out there, and part of me wants to go with the most talented young rising star hitter out there.

So, basically, I'd flip a coin between Stephen Strasburg and Desmond Jennings.



Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: BigDaddyFin on September 03, 2011, 08:54:49 pm
A five-tool centerfielder or a pitcher with a 98mph fastball and a slider that snaps off at a right angle.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: Landshark on September 03, 2011, 10:56:59 pm
Trying to decide between Strasburg and Arroldis Chapman.... but Chapman would be in my starting five. 

Pitching wins games.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: shamrock on September 04, 2011, 06:35:10 pm
As much as I hate the Yankees,it would have to be Jeter.His talent,work ethic,and leadership would not only make him the best player on any new team but a solid mentor for any of the younger players that you would have around.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on September 04, 2011, 08:11:46 pm
I am a Yankee fan and I wouldn't say Jeter. I wouldn't say Jeter with my 75th pick either. He is 37, his best years are behind him.

You obviously have to go with good, but you have to go with young as well. I would go with pitching as pitchers can singlehandedly start or stop winning/losing streaks. Either Strasburg or Clayton Kershaw. Probably Kershaw as Strasburg already has Tommy John and you just never know how pitchers will react to that.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: shamrock on September 04, 2011, 08:24:56 pm
I don't know,Edge,Jeter has the highest batting average in baseball since he's came back.The guy can still play.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: Sunstroke on September 04, 2011, 08:51:07 pm
Either Strasburg or Clayton Kershaw. Probably Kershaw as Strasburg already has Tommy John and you just never know how pitchers will react to that.

I'd have no problem with Kershaw either, the guy is a monster. If I had to, I'd probably consider David Price too...he's turning into a strikeout machine.

...and Jeter is definitely too old to be the "first player" to build a franchise around. Nothing but respect for the guy, but he just isn't the answer to this particular question.

If I were picking one Yankee to build around, it'd be Cano...and even he may be too old (28).



Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: bsfins on September 04, 2011, 10:26:39 pm
I honestly went blank when I was talking with my co workers about this.....So I asked here.... ;D

I really like Kershaw,I'd still think really hard about taking Felix Hernandez (25)

If I had a position player, I'd consider Matt Kemp (I really like Mike Stanton,and Andrew Mccutchen though)


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on September 06, 2011, 05:45:40 pm
I like Kershaw and/or Justin Upton


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 07, 2011, 09:27:25 am
Ted Lilly?


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: Sunstroke on September 07, 2011, 09:36:21 am

^^^ Nice!

If you could take one arm and one bat...I'm guessing Lilly would be joined by Vlad Guerrero or Travis Hafner, right? ;D

Strasburg looked so good last night...I almost forgot about Desmond Jennings.



Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: jtex316 on September 07, 2011, 10:01:40 am
I'm not a big baseball person, but I can't wrap my head around building a franchise around a player that plays every 5th day. (Pitchers).

I think you have to build a team around a big offensive threat either in his prime or right before his prime who can hit for both power and average. Alex Rodgriguez from 6-7 years ago would have been the perfect guy to do just that.

What about that Josh Hamilton guy from Texas? Is he young enough? Does he have the credentials enough?


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: bsfins on September 07, 2011, 10:36:40 am
^^My answer,about taking a pitcher..(I'm not sure if it's the right answer,but it's the way I see it). You can't have enough pitching,and It's kind of hard to find that number 1 top of the rotations guys,especially a young one...I could hand him the ball and I'd be fairly confident that I had a good chance of winning every 5th day.

Where if I took 1 great position player,he can play everyday,but also be taken out of the game offensively ,(intentionally walked,pitched around)...Easier to neutralize...

It's just my take...


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: Sunstroke on September 07, 2011, 11:02:50 am

I agree with Lil_B's take on the stud #1 starter. When you have a guy like Halladay, Sabbathia, Kershaw, etc... at the top of your rotation, it really helps. Get 3 mondo-stud starters in your rotation, and you're ready to dominate the playoffs.



Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on September 07, 2011, 02:58:47 pm
Ted Lilly?

Oh how I loathe Ted Lilly!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: Sunstroke on September 15, 2011, 09:58:52 am

Taking it a step further... Here is my "All Under-25 Foundation Team"

C:  Buster Posey
1B: Eric Hosmer
2B: Jemile Weeks
3B: Brett Lawrie
SS: Starlin Castro
OF: Justin Upton
OF: Mike Stanton
OF: Desmond Jennings

SP: Stephen Strasburg
SP: Clayton Kershaw
SP: David Price
SP: Michael Pineda
SP: Madison Bumgarner
RP: Craig Kimbrel
RP: Johnny Venters
RP: Aroldis Chapman



Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: bsfins on September 15, 2011, 11:19:16 am
Hmmm that looks close to MLB2k11 Cubs roster I'm playing..(a few more cubbies).. :D

C:Soto -Wieters
1B: Hosmer - A.Rizzo
2B:Barney -Ackley (odd to me Both my favorite players,on my favorite teams are wear the Number 15) Barney and Bess  :D
3B:Ramirez - Francisco
SS: Castro
OF: Stanton -Colvin
OF: A.Jones
OF:L:Morrisson

P: Garza
P: Bumgarner
P: Dempster
P: Britton
P: Zambrano

Relievers:Marshall--Sale-Chapman-Cashman-Feliz-Pineda-Lyles

I couldn't get the CPU to trade me Kershaw,Upton,Price,or Strasburg (with out totally cheating)

I like Venters,and Kimbrel but not in the game...


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 15, 2011, 03:28:25 pm
I might start with Jacoby Ellsbury, actually.  For a couple reasons:

1:  Defense:  There isn't much hit to him that he doesn't reach.  The ones he doesn't get to, he'll hold a double to a single 95% of the time.

2:  Offense:  A true lead off hitter that hits for average and power.  Once on base a single is almost always a double.  He works a pitcher to death at the plate and then that work extends to when he's on base.

He's a game changer.

I don't know if I would hinge my "first player chosen" on a position that gets hurt as easily as a pitcher.  Pitching wins games, right along with defense.  I think Ellsbury is a smart pick than a pitcher, to start off with.  I can also name off 100 pitchers that came up through a system with little to no fan fare and became aces...along with 100 more that were aces and, without warning, flamed out to nothing.

If I were building a team I think I would start with Ellsbury first, and then A-Gone, second.  Once I had that foundation, I would nab two pitchers to start my rotation, hit SS and 3rd and then come back to my pitching staff.

...but that's just me.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: tepop84 on September 15, 2011, 03:37:16 pm
I would go with a young power hitter.  Power hitters are much better at drawing fans than pitchers.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on September 15, 2011, 04:14:00 pm
^^^In most cases maybe but I can tell you that Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling alone brought in a ton of fans to the Dbacks!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: MaineDolFan on September 15, 2011, 04:17:27 pm
I would go with a young power hitter.  Power hitters are much better at drawing fans than pitchers.

A power hitter doesn't draw fans like WINNING does.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: tepop84 on September 15, 2011, 04:18:17 pm
^^^In most cases maybe but I can tell you that Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling alone brought in a ton of fans to the Dbacks!!!!!!!!

Yea, but it was mostly cause they were winning.  Stick prime Randy Johnson on a terrible team vs. prime Barry Bonds on a terrible team, and I bet the barry bonds team would greatly outsell the randy johnson one.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: tepop84 on September 15, 2011, 04:19:35 pm
A power hitter doesn't draw fans like WINNING does.

Right, but I don't think the best pitcher would be so much better (if he is better at all) than the best hitter to overcome the amount of fans that would come to see the team if they were losing.


Title: Re: If you were to build an MLB franchise,who would be your first player?
Post by: Sunstroke on September 16, 2011, 09:48:06 am
I might start with Jacoby Ellsbury, actually.  For a couple reasons

I had to exclude him from my list, despite my major Jacoby-love, because of his age (28).

Still...I sure wish that Jacoby had been part of the package Boston gave us for Adrian, rather than players who may or may not at some point in the future, become something or other at the major league level.