Title: Marlins new logo? Post by: Thundergod on September 21, 2011, 07:17:42 pm http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/index?id=6999810
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/721806/uhhhhh.JPG) Marlins president David Samson neither confirms or denies this is the new logo. But, IF this is real, all I can say is... horrendous. This is one Marlins fan that will not be sporting this atrocity. Holy jeeez. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Sunstroke on September 21, 2011, 08:50:59 pm Yeesh, it looks like the sign for a theme park ride. I'll see T-God's "horrendous" and raise it an eyesore... If this is for real, it could become the first team logo that actually causes free agents to take less money elsewhere, rather than have to wear that cartoon trainwreck 162 games a year. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: mecadonzilla on September 21, 2011, 09:37:23 pm I can accept that there are fans that wouldn't wear the logo. What I have a problem with is saying that there are Marlin fans. :D
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Tenshot13 on September 21, 2011, 09:47:48 pm That looks really really really really really gay...not that that is anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Brian Fein on September 22, 2011, 12:56:22 am I am thinking this was "leaked" on purpose, to get a feel for the fans' reaction prior to the official "announcement." Once it is announced it can't be re-done.
So, I suspect that, due to the ridiculously vastly negative response (hell, "Miami Marlins" was trending on Twitter today nationally), this will not be the real logo. I could see the proposal though. The color scheme is an attempt to appeal to the Latin American community (which the Marlins organization really cares about more than anything) and the little jumping Marlins looks strikingly similar to the jumping Dolphin from the Dolphin Stadium logo. Besides, if you're David Samson, you see this atrocity, and the response it is getting, and it ISN'T your logo, why wouldn't you just refute it immediately? My bet is, up until yesterday, it WAS their logo, and the "leak" was a test market for them. I know, if that ends up being reality, I will rock my "Florida Marlins" gear forever, because there's no way I will put that monstrosity on my t-shirt or hat. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Cathal on September 22, 2011, 08:38:50 am How could someone even think that's a good logo?
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: jtex316 on September 22, 2011, 10:06:10 am This is exactly a "leak" to test the market. This happens at Apple and Google constantly (when someone "leaves their iPhone at a bar with new features", that is a controlled leak to test public perception and to build hype).
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Dave Gray on September 22, 2011, 10:28:31 am There are parts of it I like.
I think that just looking at the "M", the color scheme is unique and telling of the product. I don't really like the Marlin itself and the colors chosen there seem odd. I really hate the "Marlins" font. But there are things here that aren't too bad and could make for a cool identity. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Brian Fein on September 22, 2011, 10:52:10 am The jumping Marlin is the only part of it I like.
The font of the "M" is horrendous. How bout some style? curvy lines or something? A "Marlin" is a graceful animal, how bout representing that. The color scheme of the M is completely irrelevant for the team. The team colors are black, silver and teal. Where does the yellow and red come from? I'll tell you - from the Colombian flag. Should they use this logo, they should rename the team to the Miami Mariachis or the Miami Latin Connection or the Miami Muchachos or something else, because they are clearly ONLY interested in recruiting Spanish-speaking fans. This was evident since the moment they chose the location for the new stadium. David Samson is off his rocker and should be immediately fired if they don't draw the predicted 36,000 per game which he claims will be the average attendance. Especially after moving a bunch of their games to 12:40 PM. This guy is ruining this team. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: fyo on September 22, 2011, 10:54:31 am The font and color scheme suck.
I get that they want to use those colors, as they have for the new ballpark logo: (http://planetpit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/MM_Ballpark_RGB-420x522.jpg) But that logo is actually pretty decent. IMHO, it's the black background and white center that are making the logo look garish. I suspect that the logo would look a lot better if the black background were replaced white and the white center of the M simply left out. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Brian Fein on September 22, 2011, 10:57:06 am I don't know where the yellow is coming from? It has never been included before. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Dave Gray on September 22, 2011, 11:15:14 am I really do like the colors. I think it's throwback to classic, Havana nights-style, old Florida, from the 60s. I don't think I like it up against the black, and like I said, it doesn't fit the rest of the logo, but I do like the M.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Phishfan on September 22, 2011, 11:23:17 am As a Mets fan, I think this is a great logo.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: bsfins on September 22, 2011, 11:27:42 am Huh....I thought I was bad at logos... :-\
It just seems off to me,maybe it is the black background... Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Spider-Dan on September 22, 2011, 11:48:09 am I don't know where the yellow is coming from? It has never been included before. I don't get it. Brian,The team is changing the name (Miami Marlins) and the logo. Are you really surprised that they are also changing the colors? Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Dave Gray on September 22, 2011, 12:03:38 pm With logos and branding, do your best not to have a snap judgment. You think you want what already exists, but you just don't know any better. But it is when things break from those conventions, that they make a name for themselves and truly create their own brand.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 22, 2011, 12:23:39 pm I am not a big fan of logo changes. I only starting now to warm up to the fly Elvis instead of Pat the Patriot and that change occurred in '92-'93.
If a team moves should be the only reason for a logo change. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Brian Fein on September 22, 2011, 01:26:57 pm Brian, I guess that's my problem - I am OK with the Miami Marlins (I thought it should have been that the second Tampa Bay was granted a team), but they already have a "M" logo, that it very nice!The team is changing the name (Miami Marlins) and the logo. Are you really surprised that they are also changing the colors? (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZtKKHjRnQ0Q/SczmUVoKixI/AAAAAAAABlk/6sS7ivTvcnc/s320/BP+hat.gif) What's wrong with that? I just think you gotta pick 2-3 colors and stick to it. There's black, yellow, orange, red, blue, green. Hell, every color under the rainbow is in there. Talk about a team with no identity... Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: MaineDolFan on September 22, 2011, 01:36:26 pm ^^The Marlin looks scared, confused and about to be pulled into a boat.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Thundergod on September 22, 2011, 03:38:00 pm I guess that's my problem - I am OK with the Miami Marlins (I thought it should have been that the second Tampa Bay was granted a team), but they already have a "M" logo, that it very nice! (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZtKKHjRnQ0Q/SczmUVoKixI/AAAAAAAABlk/6sS7ivTvcnc/s320/BP+hat.gif) What's wrong with that? I just think you gotta pick 2-3 colors and stick to it. There's black, yellow, orange, red, blue, green. Hell, every color under the rainbow is in there. Talk about a team with no identity... Absolutely. Brian is spot on. Now THIS I would have no problem with. I don't mind logo changes, there have been plenty of logo changes that I've given a personal "thumbs up" to. But then there are times where you just have to wonder who the hell approves, or HIRES the people that create such disasters. The new logo looks like default clip art from a software program. Hell, it's a gas station or motel logo. Prediction: it won't last if it is indeed real. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Dave Gray on September 22, 2011, 03:44:35 pm ^ That logo is the same as the Dolphins logo, in essence. It's also the same as the old Marlin logo. If they are trying to re-brand themselves with a new image, that exemplifies something else, a new logo is fitting.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Spider-Dan on September 22, 2011, 04:31:06 pm I just think you gotta pick 2-3 colors and stick to it. There's black, yellow, orange, red, blue, green. Hell, every color under the rainbow is in there. Talk about a team with no identity... (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/721806/uhhhhh.JPG)orange, cyan, white, yellow (I don't think black is an official Marlins color anymore; that's just the background) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/37/Miami_Dolphins_logo.svg/100px-Miami_Dolphins_logo.svg.png) aqua, orange, white, navy (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Miami_Heat_logo.svg/200px-Miami_Heat_logo.svg.png) white, black, red, orange (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8f/Florida_Panthers.svg/200px-Florida_Panthers.svg.png) red, blue, gold, white What's the big deal? edit: fixed links Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Dave Gray on September 22, 2011, 04:43:24 pm It might be one extra color that you're not counting, Spider -- gray/silver. Either way, it's still very comparable.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: fyo on September 22, 2011, 04:54:34 pm The M has a total of 5 different colors. That's just too much. Looks like something a kid would throw together.
Regarding the black background... if you insist on having WHITE letters for the team name, a dark background is hard to avoid, so black is a team color in this case. You can't have the logo without it. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: EDGECRUSHER on September 22, 2011, 05:52:42 pm None of this matters because Hanley Ramirez sucks now.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: DZA on September 23, 2011, 08:51:18 am OH HELLL NAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Why they just dont replace the "F" with an "M" If this is the logo, you may as well say bye bye to the Marlins in the future. It may be obvious that they not counting on the marlins to stay in South FLA anyways Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: DZA on September 23, 2011, 08:55:49 am http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?83284-Marlins-Stadium-Construction/page15
remember this post a while back Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: CF DolFan on September 23, 2011, 09:26:31 am As was mentioned it looks gay but it's obviously aimed at the Hispanic Floridians and Bahamians. It certainly won't help to boost ratings for the other 80% of the state.
Of course the Astros sported a gay quasi rainbow in the 70's of which most people disliked. I myself liked it but what did I know ... I was a kid. (http://www.chancenarrative.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/astros-320x480.jpg) Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Dave Gray on September 23, 2011, 10:01:54 am I dislike the Pathers logo...always have. Too much going on. I prefer clenliness and simplicity. I wish they would give that an overhaul.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Brian Fein on September 23, 2011, 10:03:39 am I think the Panthers logo is great! I also like the lesser used "palm tree and hockey stick" logo.
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/143082/panthers_secondary_medium.gif) But that would look silly on the front of the jersey. They have it on the shoulders and its great! Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: SportsChick on September 23, 2011, 10:20:43 am I am glad that I have a lot of Florida Marlins stuff if that's the crap they're going with. I'll be rocking the "retro" look
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Spider-Dan on September 23, 2011, 11:30:27 am Regarding the black background... if you insist on having WHITE letters for the team name, a dark background is hard to avoid, so black is a team color in this case. You can't have the logo without it. (http://www.tikget.com/images/miami-dolphins-tickets_cnths_0.jpg)The "Marlins" in the new logo is surrounded by orange. You'd be able to read it perfectly fine on a white background, just like you can read that Dolphins logo. Even if that wasn't the case, you can throw white letters on a cyan or orange background and you're still fine. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on September 23, 2011, 02:09:47 pm That is atrocious.....I for one don't like it but I am not a Marlins fan so I don't really care either.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: fyo on September 23, 2011, 03:57:26 pm The "Marlins" in the new logo is surrounded by orange. You'd be able to read it perfectly fine on a white background, just like you can read that Dolphins logo. Even if that wasn't the case, you can throw white letters on a cyan or orange background and you're still fine. The Marlins in the new logo has a pencil-thin outline, not nearly enough to make it easily readable -- so nothing like the Dolphins logo. And you can't just use cyan or orange as you suggest, since that would ruin the rest of the logo. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Spider-Dan on September 23, 2011, 05:43:21 pm The Marlins in the new logo has a pencil-thin outline, not nearly enough to make it easily readable -- so nothing like the Dolphins logo. (http://www.webwallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/miami-dolphins-desktop-classic-logo-300x225.jpg)And you can't just use cyan or orange as you suggest, since that would ruin the rest of the logo. Looks fine to me. Are you seriously arguing that black is the ONLY color that can EVER be used for the background of the new Marlins logo? Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: fyo on September 24, 2011, 07:55:25 pm Looks fine to me. I wasn't talking about the phins logo, so completely irrelevant. Do note that the two phins logos you showed differ by more than just the background. The latter one has en extra white outline around everything. Quote Are you seriously arguing that black is the ONLY color that can EVER be used for the background of the new Marlins logo? No, what I am saying is that the logo, as is, needs a dark background. White looks like shit unless you really beef up the outline and using one of the colors in the logo ruins the rest of the logo (IMHO). Examples: (http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/fyodor_/marlins-white.jpg) (http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/fyodor_/marlins-orange.jpg) This is a quick and dirty edit (so ignore the inexact nature of it) and I've purposely left in too much black from the outline. The orange is actually quite nice, although very Dolphins-like, but ruins the marlin. As with you Dolphins-logo example, adding some white around the marlin could "save" it (but that would be modifying the logo beyond the background color). Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: EDGECRUSHER on September 25, 2011, 12:28:17 pm The problem for me is the giant "M". It's the biggest part of the logo and is very generic looking.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Brian Fein on September 25, 2011, 12:43:42 pm I chopped up the logo just to see what it would look like, and I think this looks a lot better.
Forgive my shoddy Photoshop skills... Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Sunstroke on September 25, 2011, 12:48:49 pm ^^^ For an ice cream parlor brand...sure. For a theme park logo...you betcha. For a major league baseball team? Gag me with a spork full of rainbow sherbet. (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n7F3kDkuYbM/S-OP-6iKMEI/AAAAAAAAA90/XzgxxPfTWrg/s400/spork.jpg) (http://sandykone.com/rainbow%20sherbet.jpg) Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: fyo on September 26, 2011, 05:48:45 am I'm with 'stroke. Too many colors for the logo of a sports team.
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: bsfins on September 26, 2011, 03:23:24 pm I found this while google searching a better version of the logo....I had worked on an idea that essentially used what the parts of the new logo,using the old colors..I kept Effin up the marlin...It was more 3d,less straight on,but bringing it all together more like the Colorado Avalache logo..
I lost it all when I re-imaged my hard drive back to September 1st.... (http://filesmelt.com/dl/miamimarlinscap.jpg) Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Dave Gray on September 26, 2011, 04:19:17 pm ^ I think that actually looks pretty cool.
My only gripe is that I think that the Marlin itself (as opposed to the M), should have either the white or yellow included, as well. Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Brian Fein on September 27, 2011, 12:44:18 pm It would be so much better if they just got rid of the multi-colored outline around the M
Title: Re: Marlins new logo? Post by: Sunstroke on September 27, 2011, 01:23:07 pm ^^^ Oh yeah |