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Title: What to do?
Post by: Dave Gray on September 25, 2011, 09:47:29 pm
I'm as pissed as everyone else, but I think that we need to be smart.  I think it's important to determine what needs to be fixed and work on the worst areas first.  Sure, we'd be better if we had a better QB or coach, but replacing those positions just because we're bad doesn't make much sense to me.  That's not saying that we shouldn't replace those guys, but don't do it just to do it.  In short, you can't just "replace everyone".  It doesn't work that way.  Find problem areas and find things to build around first.

Here's where I see our biggest problems that need to change:

GM - Ireland has been a consistant negative for us.  Most of our drafts picks have not worked out, and even our free agent acquisitions, though we have gotten some big names, none have really worked out to be what we signed up for.  Brandon Marshall, for example....he's a good player, but he's not been the elite guy that we need, when we're putting so much stock in him.

Dan Carpenter - I like the guy, but he can't make kicks.  Sure, it wouldn't be a big deal i we could score TDs, but you don't evaluate your kicker on how well the overall offense is.  Either he can consistantly make kicks, or he can't.  ...and he can't.  Unfortunately for him, I think you need to get a new guy.  You can't afford to wait until he gets his head straight.  If Carpenter hits his kicks, we're 2-1.

Columbo - I don't really know what to say.  The guy just isn't very good.

Nolan Carol - Same thing.  He just isn't getting it done.

And I think that's it, in terms of areas that are outright broken.

On notice:

Tony Sparano - I don't think that we're winning games if we have a slightly better coach.  The upheaval that getting rid of a guy causes might not be worth it, unless you find someone you really like to replace him.  I didn't like the call to go long at the end of the game when you needed 12 yards, but it was one play.  In general, we were in a position to win that game, all game, and our players didn't produce.

Henne - Same thing.  He's playing well enough not to be replaced.  That's not to say that you don't get a superstar if the opporunity comes along, but he's not the reason we're losing.

Reggie Bush - I'm not sure if it's that he's just not a #1 back or that he's been used improperly.  We need to figure that out.  But at present, we have a big name player that I don't want touching the ball.

Brandon Marshall - He's not worth it, quite frankly.  He is expected to do a lot, and doesn't. 


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: tepop84 on September 25, 2011, 09:52:42 pm
Bring in Gruden. Get rid of Ireland, Sparano and Henne.

Ireland is the biggest problem yet.  He gets rid of players just to bring in Dallas trash, like has been said a million times.  He trades players for nothing, cuts players who contribute, and sucks at drafting.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: tepop84 on September 25, 2011, 09:53:07 pm
This team is so boring to watch too.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: dolfan13 on September 25, 2011, 10:09:16 pm
its 2011, not the mid 80's... this team is not built to win in today's nfl. i.e. put up video game points on the scoreboard.

folks thought it was a "scheme" thing, bring in new "wide open" offensive coordinator. new "schemes", same results... the triggerman that this offense is built around is simply an average care taker at the qb position. he can't win games for you, and in today's game, that is not good enough.

funny how in buffalo, who is the head coach again? oh yeah chan gailey... who is the assistant head coach? oh yeah, some guy by the name of dave wannestedt. funny how a qb can make idiots look like geniuses in this game.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: MikeO on September 25, 2011, 10:14:26 pm


Henne - Same thing.  He's playing well enough not to be replaced.  That's not to say that you don't get a superstar if the opporunity comes along, but he's not the reason we're losing.
 

Henne IS the reason we are losing. Lead a TD drive for pete sakes. One a game isn't cutting it!  What games do you people watch? Seriously. He doesn't make any plays. He's the quarterback.... THAT'S A PROBLEM!


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Dave Gray on September 25, 2011, 10:26:10 pm
In order to lead a TD drive, you need to have receivers get open, have guys block for you, and people make catches.  We have a superstar WR who doesn't catch touch passes, for example.  Marshall is getting huge money to do things like help his QB out.  He doesn't.

Henne is not elite, but you can't just cut him and get another bum and expect things to be different.  I don't even want to defend Henne.  He's not the problem.  I hate to tell you, but you're just wrong.  You can say that the buck stops with him because he's at a position that magifies that, and you'd be right, but if you're looking to win games now, replacing your QB without having a specific upgrade won't help you.  You can't just cut your starting QB and hope for the best.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: miamid45 on September 25, 2011, 10:32:09 pm
Sparano's done...no longer on notice...this team needs a major shakeup, beginning with the coach.  I hope they stay put, though, and ride this shipwreck right to the draft.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: tepop84 on September 25, 2011, 10:32:44 pm
Henne can't get the ball to Marshall.  Marshall is too smart to play with Henne.  Like that Houston game last week.  Jason allen vs. Marshall 1 on 1.  They were on the 15 or 20 yard line and allen lined up on marshall.  just before the snap allen moved back about 7 yards.  Marshall ran his route and allen was still giving him a 7 yard cushion, marshall stops about the 3 yard line and henne throws the ball right to all who was 5 yards deep in the end zone.  Luckily allen dropped the interception, but that is the problem with henne.  he can't read a fucking defense.  Marshall realizes how terrible henne is, and doesn't look like he even wants to play with him anymore.  The whole offense is sick of henne.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: tepop84 on September 25, 2011, 10:33:49 pm
In order to lead a TD drive, you need to have receivers get open, have guys block for you, and people make catches.  We have a superstar WR who doesn't catch touch passes, for example.  Marshall is getting huge money to do things like help his QB out.  He doesn't.

Henne is not elite, but you can't just cut him and get another bum and expect things to be different.  I don't even want to defend Henne.  He's not the problem.  I hate to tell you, but you're just wrong.  You can say that the buck stops with him because he's at a position that magifies that, and you'd be right, but if you're looking to win games now, replacing your QB without having a specific upgrade won't help you.  You can't just cut your starting QB and hope for the best.

How could they possibly be any worse right now.  They are 0-3.  they have lost two games by double digits. The scored 1 td against a terrible defense tonight. 


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: masterfins on September 25, 2011, 10:36:47 pm
Unless Miami goes on some sort of crazy win streak, there is no doubt that Sparano & Ireland will not be back.  Just a matter of picking the most opportune time, which is debatable.  I didn't say anything last week, but when Sparano says after game #2 that he doesn't know what has to be done, then how do you command much respect from your players.  After losing to Cleveland, Jtex may be right, the Fins may go 0-16.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: dolfan13 on September 25, 2011, 10:49:15 pm
In order to lead a TD drive, you need to have receivers get open, have guys block for you, and people make catches. 

red zone efficiency is the problem. it's when the windows are smaller, timing is sped up, and like steve young says "no one is open inside the 20. you have to throw guys open." henne's accuracy is the biggest issue. 50% just isn't good enough...

you're right, the dolphins can't fix their problems this year. but until they get a qb that is accurate, makes good decisions, and actually forces defenses to account for this, the dolphins will play this 3 year regime switching story over, and over, and over.

qb's make idiots look like geniuses. look no further than the success the bills are having right now.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: tubba marxxx on September 25, 2011, 11:07:17 pm
Root for another team....that's what we do



I'm done with this piss poor excuse for a franchise



Absolutely NO direction for the last 20 years


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on September 25, 2011, 11:10:06 pm
Welcome to the Andrew luck sweepstakes!


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Stinger24 on September 25, 2011, 11:31:51 pm




Tony Sparano - I don't think that we're winning games if we have a slightly better coach.  The upheaval that getting rid of a guy causes might not be worth it, unless you find someone you really like to replace him. 

What freaking upheaval we lost to the f-ing Cleavland Browns WITHOUT Hillis it cannot get any worse we would be better of promoting someone as interim and giving them a 12 game interview. If that does not work we look for a coach this off season. He has had enough time .


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Dave Gray on September 25, 2011, 11:49:05 pm
It can get worse.  It can always get worse.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: dolfan13 on September 25, 2011, 11:55:05 pm
the way the nfl is setup, it often takes worse to have a chance to get significantly better...

unfortunately for the dolphins when they were worse, they drafted a running back and a left tackle.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: MikeO on September 26, 2011, 07:11:23 am
In order to lead a TD drive, you need to have receivers get open, have guys block for you, and people make catches.  We have a superstar WR who doesn't catch touch passes, for example.  Marshall is getting huge money to do things like help his QB out.  He doesn't.

Henne is not elite, but you can't just cut him and get another bum and expect things to be different.  I don't even want to defend Henne.  He's not the problem.  I hate to tell you, but you're just wrong.  You can say that the buck stops with him because he's at a position that magifies that, and you'd be right, but if you're looking to win games now, replacing your QB without having a specific upgrade won't help you.  You can't just cut your starting QB and hope for the best.

Win games now? LOL, the season is over bro. 0-3 starts dont come back and make the playoffs. But playing Moore for a game or two won't hurt nothing. How much worse can it be? What we lose games...we are doing that now.  And  we don't have to cut him. Hene is a Free Agent at the end of the year, just don't re-sign him. He won't want to come back anyway so its probably a happy divorce! Henne can't play and he IS the reason we don't score points. Hartline, Bess and the WR's are fine. Don't make excuses for Henne. Henne isn't very good. Henne is 99% of the problem!

P.S.....I was the one who wanted Marshall gone once the lockout ended. We had a 30 day window to not take a cap hit. Everyone here said, no no no...now we are stuck with the SOB and he will hurt our cap for the next few years if we move him. Question I had, when Marshall gave that "cheap shot" to Joe Haden and sucker-hit him from behind and got the 15 yard penalty and made Carpenters FG kick harder, was that the BDP kicking back in or him just being an scumbag once again?


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: CF DolFan on September 26, 2011, 08:23:08 am
Excuse me as I ddn't get to see the game but didn't Bess drop a pass on the last drive that would have put us in FG range? It would have made it 1st and 10 on the 35 yard line or something with 3o something seconds left.  I was listening on the radio and thinking here we go again. Same thing different week.

We never have playmakers when it counts but yet our QB is the problem.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: DZA on September 26, 2011, 08:35:09 am
I dont know what to say, while I do see Henne playing a lot better this season  than in the past, he continues to disappoint me . I am not sure as to whether question his ability or Daboll's play calling or Sparano's coaching ability.  This team is in very very bad shape .  We all knew Reggie Bush was not no #1 option at RB,  What we did not expect is that the defense was going to suck as bad as they do now.  Here they talked about Vontae and Smith like they were the  two best sine SURTAIN and MADISON bullshit.  In now way they are better  that surtain and madison.  Mike Nolan could not hack it as a coach in San fran so why should he do any better a a D-cord.  :-\ 

This season is a lost and i am starting to believe what Golic said about the FINS, we are going to go 3-13  or 1-15 again!  I dont care no more until i see  a winning product on the field. 




Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: dolfan13 on September 26, 2011, 08:43:05 am
it's crazy right... henne is the only qb in the nfl where his receivers drop balls, running backs fumble, etc...

last year it was henning's fault, lack of running game, o line's fault. this year bess and marshall are the problem.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Cathal on September 26, 2011, 09:00:01 am
Excuse me as I ddn't get to see the game but didn't Bess drop a pass on the last drive that would have put us in FG range? It would have made it 1st and 10 on the 35 yard line or something with 3o something seconds left.  I was listening on the radio and thinking here we go again. Same thing different week.

We never have playmakers when it counts but yet our QB is the problem.

I think the defender got there at the last moment and batted it down.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: CF DolFan on September 26, 2011, 09:19:31 am
^^^^According to the Jimmy Cefalo, Joe Rose, and Bob Griese it bounced off his chest after going through his hands.

Look I'm not saying he is perfect but he isn't getting any help. His INTs are really nothing condering two were the last plays of the game when he had to try something. The other time his arm was hit. It's obvious his game has stepped up this year while others continue to play half arsed when we need them to step up.  It doesn't all fall on the freaking QB.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: Phishfan on September 26, 2011, 09:45:49 am
Root for another team....that's what we do



I'm done with this piss poor excuse for a franchise



Absolutely NO direction for the last 20 years

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: lumpp5776 on September 26, 2011, 11:10:57 am
What can we really do? We scream, yell, or maybe even toss a tv. But to no avail. Inept leadership leads to inept play on the field. Its just truly sickening to be trapped on the runaway train, known as The Dolphin Express.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: lumpp5776 on September 26, 2011, 11:14:44 am
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


No kidding. Make sure you turn in your Dolphin Fan Card before u leave.


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: tubba marxxx on September 26, 2011, 11:28:25 am
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.



cute


Title: Re: What to do?
Post by: habfan5150 on September 26, 2011, 01:13:07 pm
In the NFL it seems like 80 % of the games are decided in the 4th quarter, which has been the Dolphins demise. We were playing well against Houston early in the 4th, we had momentum, then Thomas fumbled, then we played like crap.  Yesterday, the Browns couldn't move the ball untill they needed the touchdown to stay alive, which they did, and then the Dolphins got the ball back but couldn't get one friging first down to get into field goal postion.