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Minnesota, St. Louis, Miami and indy all winless so who do you think will be the last to win a game. or who will lose all their games?

definitely miami because we're the only ones whose coach is getting fired this week

Miami or Indy

I'm going with Minnesota.  They have huge leads at halftime and still lose. 

I'm also going to say the Vikings.

Miami

I'll say St. Louis.  They play some tough teams coming up.

Miami doesn't have any winnable games until they play the Chiefs week 9.  And that's their only winnable game of the season as it looks right now.

This is silly.

You mean to tell me that as of today, WSH, NYG, NYJ (x2), DEN, and OAK are all "unwinnable"?  Those teams are all light-years ahead of anything MIA can put on the field?

BUF just lost to CIN.  PHI just lost to SF.  But MIA over DEN is unthinkable?

Yes.

Miami has "at least" a shot at beating both Washington and Denver. Not saying they will, but I don't see those two teams as being light years ahead of the Phins.


Made my weekend...what a shocker that was!

Miami and STL have a bye this week so they are safe.  Indy is home against KC this week so thats a win, and Minny is home against the Cards so I think they will win.  After the bye the Fins will lose to the Jets and STL will lose to the Pack.  So week #7 will knock one of them out, The Fins play Denver at home and STL plays @ Dallas; since Dallas blows every other game they will lose to STL.  Therefore, the Fins will be the last to win a game this year, if at all.

Indy is going to win tonight vs a ridiculously overrated Tampa Bay team.

It'll be interesting to see if Painter can ignite the team... he seems to be the players' favorite, so we'll see if he can deliver.

You should drop some money with your local bookie then...

Indianapolis is going to get its ass handed to them tonight. They were arguably one of the worst defenses in the league already (29th), and they just put Gary Brackett and Melvin Bullitt on injured reserve this week. Tampa is healthy, they're at home, and their young D will face Curtis Painter at QB.

TB by 13 (and a healthy cover of the 10.5 spread)

...and Indy advances to 0-4 in the Suck for Luck Sweepstakes!

From your mouth to the football gods ears Stroke (I started the Bucks D against Tampa in fantasy this week)

What is your reasoning for TB being overrated?

Have to agree...so far they look terrible.  Painter looks like Manning.

Opinion.  Pre-season, people had Freeman as the next Tom Brady and Blount was Jerome Bettis.  Just not seeing it.

There's a reason I don't bet on football...

This seems like a bit of an exaggeration... I love Freeman (he's QBing my YJFF squad), but don't think anyone really had him owning property in Bradyville.

If you watch Freeman much you will see that he comes through when he needs to. He isn't steller all the time but has the potential to be.

Blount looked pretty darn good, although part of that was certainly playing against an undersized Indy D.

Miami DOES have a bye week this week, but I understand the bye week is a 6.5 point favorite. I believe the Colts will win 5-6 games this year, and Minnesota will be the last to win a game, but finish with a better overall record than Miami. -EK

He did that against ATL too.  He always plays like that.

Wow, up from 6 pts earlier in the week.  Since Miami is home that's like 9 pts actually.

Vikings and Colts with EARLY leads right now.


Minny up 14 and the place is rockin they are pumped. Indy up 7 at home.

Vikings up 28-0 in the first quarter. McNabb's qb stats were... bizarre... 2 of 6 for 41 yards, 0 touchdowns, 0 ints. And they were up 28-0 with no defensive touchdowns. And AP had 59 yards and 3 touchdowns. The last touchdown was a McNabb scramble. Wow. Just weird.

Indy has been up the entire game but letting it slip away. We need an Indy win here bad. Indy might be a team that is in every game, lose a bunch of nail bitters and finally quit halfway through the year.

Sort of like Cam's year in Miami. Miami lost a bunch of close games early and then just quit. Indy could be the same way. They had Pitt beat, lost. They had TB beat lost. They have led vs KC the entire game but now only up 3. Would like to see Indy get a win here or else they might not win more than 1 or 2 all year and get that #1 pick

Indy blew it.

At 0-5 and no hope in sight, Indy will just shut down. They won't have a team meeting to announce that they should stop trying to win, but once you know the season will end in December, you stop giving that extra effort subconsciously.

Only thing going for us is Indy plays Jax TWICE. So they might get a cheap win or 2 there.

Then you gotta hope Jax wins a game or two more elsewhere. Which with that group might be impossible.

I think aside from Denver Miami is screwed when it comes to finding wins. But they could get a cheap win late if NE shuts it down for a week or something. I would hate to lose Luck because of that. Want the Fins to have a nice 2 game cushion going into December for that #1 overall pick

Down to Miami, Indy, & STL - Indy has a shot to win again this week, playing against Cincy.  Miami & STL should both lose (jets/packers).  If Miami can manage to lose to Denver, hopefully STL will pull out a win against Dallas.

No team in the NFC West scares me. They all suck and all play each other. So St.Louis/Arizona/Seattle will all win at least 3 or 4 or 5 by default by having to play each other. None of them will have the #1 overall pick.

I may have to evaluate, after Henne went down.  As much as people complained about him not winning games, I think we'll see a dropoff at the position.  I think that Denver is our big chance, but after that, it'll be a tough road.

Of course its a drop off. Henne sucks. Moore sucks even more. Denver is Miami's best chance to win a game.But we have a short week and Denver coming off a bye, so I think Denver may have a slight edge. After that maybe the best chance to win is a late December game if a team we are playing (Pats, Bills...etc) has a spot locked up and rests a bunch of guys.

If KC and the Giants were at home both are winable. They are on the road though and I think Miami will have issues.  Washington at home I guess is winable I mean Rex Grossman doesn't scare anyone and can always put up a stinker. But their defense should have no issues with Moore.

The second the D starts playing well (which might happen), the offense is going to get a boost as well.

On offense, the main issue has been minor mistakes (dropped passes, mainly) and play calling (Bush up the middle?).

I don't know if it's bad preparation or what, but unless the players just gives up on Sparano first (a definite possibility), I think they'll start performing reasonably well.

Minor Mistakes on offense?

Marshall can't catch the ball
O-line can't block for anything
QB can't throw a decent ball in the redzone and now we are with that QB's backup
And our o-coordinator doesn't seem to bright
If our injury prone RB Thomas is hurt, we have ZERO running game

Those are MAJOR mistakes any way you spin it.

You are right. My choice of words was very poor. (Not that you'll agree with what I meant, either).

What I meant to say was that these are minor issues (but major mistakes), in the sense that it isn't that the players are incapable of e.g. blocking or catching balls, it's just that for whatever reason, they are not doing it right now. As I said, I don't know WHY they are playing like shit, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they suddenly got their collective act together and won some games.

They are playing like shit cause they simply don't care.  There's no motivation and its only going to get worse with every additional loss added to the standings.

I have seen Brandon for 2 years now drop a ton of passes. I question whether he can be a legit #1 WR anymore. To me is peaked and is on the decline. He has turned into another WR sideshow act who makes headlines off the field and not much noise on the field anymore.

I haven't seen Carey, Colombo, or Incognito block anyone all year. So I don't think they are capable of being quality o-linemen.

Moore...Henne...both suck. Next!

And after Daniel Thomas we have no running backs. Lex is a great FB and quality short yardage guy. But Bush sucks. And we don't have a work horse after Thomas.

There is no magic light-switch that will be flipped.  This team is not capable of turning it around on offense

Very true.  +1

That's why I think Sparano will be axed at some point soon.  If the apathy starts building more steam around the locker room, Ireland/Ross will have no choice but to can him.  That's what happened to Wade Phillips last year in Dallas.  Jerry Jones had never fired anyone mid season before and desperately tried not to do it, but it was obvious Wade had lost the team and they were better off with out him.  I think that scenario is playing out right now in Miami.

How do you list a guy as "injury prone" after 4 games in his rookie season? -EK

When you have missed 2 of the 4.....lol

Oh wait, Thomas has been limited in practice all week, not looking good for Monday. Might be 2 out of 5. IRONMAN he isn't!

Perfect example in the 2nd half tonight against the Jets.

No one said he's an ironman, but ye of great hyperbole, labeling a player as injury prone after 4 games (now 5) is just absurd. Arian Foster has missed as much time this year as Thomas- is he injury prone? -EK

Foster has 1 year under his belt of playing 16 games on his resume. DT doesn't.

decided to bump this thread, we are down to 2. Miami and Indy.

Well, it's certainly possible that both Miami and Indy will go winless.  However, I think it's Indy.  As bad as Miami is, Indy is worse.  They are mailing it in.  I guess they feel without Manning, no one is going to blame them for sucking.  Say what you will about Miami's lack of talent, I don't think you can accuse them of not playing hard.

If Miami gets a win, it will be in the next 2 weeks against the Chiefs or the Redskins.  If we lose those 2 games, it will be very hard to get one this year.

The easiest games for the Colts are the Jaguars (twice) and the Panthers, but both of those teams are playing tough and I can't see Indy doing anything against them.  Indy looks like a lock for 0 - 16.

I agree. I thought Miami would be last team to win a game this year but Indy just looks like absolute trash. That being said, I could see both teams going 0-16.

What do they do in that case insofar as the draft is concerned? The reverse of tie-breakers to get into the playoffs? Like- whoever had an EASIER schedule sucked more, and gets the higher pick? -EK

This question has been asked in other threads, but I don't think there has been a definitive answer.  If Miami and Indy tie with the worse record, then who gets the number 1 pick?

^^The answer is definately whomever has the harder schedule gets the lower pick. If Miami and Indy both finish 0-16 Indy gets the first pick.

How can you say that with certainty not knowing the outcome of every game from now until Week 17?  How can you determine the record of the 13 teams on each schedule to calculate the strength of schedule?

A couple of you guys are just a tiny bit off in regards to the SoS tiebreaker. If Miami and Indy both finish tied for the worst record, it is the team with the "lower" strength of schedule between the two that ends up getting the first pick.

Example: 

Indy finishes 0-16, with their opponents' combined winning percentage at .438
Miami finishes 0-16, with their opponents' combined winning percentage is at .485

Indy would get the first pick in this example.

Isn't that the same thing?  The "lower pick" meaning the worse pick, a.k.a #2

Indy has Jacksonville twice and Miami has the Redskins.  Those look like the only winnable games for either team

Indy has Carolina at home too

Miami will be the last, its just that bad in miami.  The LOLphins have shit for luck and shit will roll down hill.  I try to stay optimistic from week to week but i cant especially when the fins play like a hockey team, Good for three periods.

Yeah but Cam Newton should have a field day on that secondary

Call it a hunch.

I am going to say Colts.

Miami is losing close games and are bound to win one evenually by accident.

Colts are never even in the game. 

Colts played some teams tough early, don't forget.  Also, the Colts schedule is pretty weak.  They play the likes of Jacksonville and Tennessee in there a few times.

Indy had KC beat for 3 and a half quarters, up 10 at the half and up 3 going into the 4th quarter. KC had to score with 5 min left to beat them. Indy also went to the wire with Pitt. Indy had the lead going into the 4th quarter and Pitt needed 13 4th quarter points to win that game. They held Pitt to 1 offensive TD the entire game and that was in the first quarter. Indy shut them down.

This could come down to a matter of minutes next week, as Indy plays Jax and Miami plays the Skins.

Hoodiedamus

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/box-score/20111106011/atlanta-falcons--indianapolis-colts

Well i can put my foot in my mouth now,  ???

Damn, the only way that Indy wins this year is if the opposing teams start running in the wrong direction.