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Title: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: Pappy13 on November 02, 2011, 05:12:42 pm
Um, where have I heard this before....oh yeah, it's was me.  >:D

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2011/11/could-ryan-mallett-have-made-a-difference-for-miami.html


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: Sunstroke on November 02, 2011, 05:13:55 pm

There was a fairly large contingent of Mallett-lovers on this board...still wish Miami would have drafted him.



Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: JVides on November 02, 2011, 05:29:39 pm
Then?  Would have been great.  Now?  Please no!  The Pats would ask (and our sorry front office would give) way too much.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: masterfins on November 02, 2011, 05:38:16 pm
Another Stupid Armando column of speculation.  Unless Mallet performed like Brady or P. Manning, the Dolphins would have no more wins than they currently have.  Indy sucks without Peyton.  The Pats lost this week with a less than Brady-esque performance.  Mallet may end up being great in the right situation, but that is not Miami, not this year anyway.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: Pappy13 on November 02, 2011, 05:57:45 pm
Another Stupid Armando column of speculation.  Unless Mallet performed like Brady or P. Manning, the Dolphins would have no more wins than they currently have.  Indy sucks without Peyton.  The Pats lost this week with a less than Brady-esque performance.  Mallet may end up being great in the right situation, but that is not Miami, not this year anyway.
Well that wasn't exactly his point. He never speculated that Miami would have more wins with Mallet, in fact he said they'd probably still be 0'fer, but his point was that perhaps we wouldn't be worrying about our chances to suck for luck right now. Perhaps we would have seen a little potential in Mallet and perhaps we could have spent the first pick on something other than QB next year.

We had 2 chances to grab Mallet and we passed on him twice for Pouncey and Thomas.  Thomas is a nice little back, but I don't think anyone is convinced he's going to be anything special. Same goes for Pouncey, put 2 guards on either side of him that can play and perhaps he anchors a decent line, but he hasn't proven to be anything special.

The biggest knocks on Mallet weren't the measureables so much as it was the unmeasureable. Some said he wasn't a leader. Other's said he was a drunk and perhaps had even worse problems with drugs, etc. That didn't seem to scare New England away, the same New England that already has Tom Brady on their roster.

The assumption at the time was that Miami was gonna get a veteran QB to challenge Henne, but we ended up with Moore.  Hindsight is 20/20, but there were plenty of folks around these parts that were praying for Mallet on draft day. I was one of them.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: Brian Fein on November 02, 2011, 06:57:57 pm
If I was the GM, both Mark Ingram and Ryan Mallett would likely be in Dolphins uniforms right now.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: BigDaddyFin on November 02, 2011, 08:01:36 pm
Ryan who?


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: tubba marxxx on November 04, 2011, 08:08:34 am
Ryan who?


Exactly.



Ya know how I know he'll never amount to anything?  Because Brandon Marshall said he'll be a stud.   ::)


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 04, 2011, 12:53:33 pm
Reality is no one knows much more about Mallet today than they did on draft day.

The only thing we can be confident of is that Bill Belichick (who knows a thing or two about football) thinks Brian Hoyer is a better QB than Ryan Mallet. 


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: Pappy13 on November 04, 2011, 02:17:34 pm
^^What makes you say that? When Hoyer goes in the game before Mallet then you can say that. Depth charts don't mean a thing. Just ask Brady Quinn.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: MaineDolFan on November 04, 2011, 06:19:43 pm
I'd like to ask something...

People all seem to be in agreement that Sam Bradford is a pretty damn fine QB.  Steve Jackson is a hell of a running back.  Yet St. Louis sucks dog ass.  One player, not matter how good, won't change this franchises fortunes completely.  Dan Marino via 1984 wouldn't make much difference for this team right now.  Too many holes.  Who cares about Mallet?  Seriously?  Miami might have one win instead of zero.  I highly doubt it.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: MikeO on November 04, 2011, 08:11:17 pm
I'd like to ask something...

People all seem to be in agreement that Sam Bradford is a pretty damn fine QB.  Steve Jackson is a hell of a running back.  Yet St. Louis sucks dog ass.  

St.Louis does not suck. They almost made the playoffs last year and this year look at their schedule. They opened with Philly, Giants, Ravens, Packers, Cowboys, Redskins (when they were still good), Saints...for a young team on the rise that is tough.They will finish the season close to .500 because their schedule gets much easier. That is not bad team by any means. Their schedule was just front loaded.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: tubba marxxx on November 04, 2011, 08:28:52 pm
St.Louis does not suck. They almost made the playoffs last year and this year look at their schedule. They opened with Philly, Giants, Ravens, Packers, Cowboys, Redskins (when they were still good), Saints...for a young team on the rise that is tough.They will finish the season close to .500 because their schedule gets much easier. That is not bad team by any means. Their schedule was just front loaded.


+1


and not to mention they have been decimated with injuries this year


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 05, 2011, 11:22:10 am
^^What makes you say that? When Hoyer goes in the game before Mallet then you can say that. Depth charts don't mean a thing. Just ask Brady Quinn.

If Brady got injured during a game, Hoyer would go in.  Mallet is inactive on game day. 

That says BB trusts Hoyer more than Mallet at this moment, which may be based on experience not raw talent, we don't know.  But we do know that as of the Steelers game, if Brady is not available Belichick would rather put the ball in Hoyer's hands than Mallet's. 


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 05, 2011, 02:54:26 pm
Why would Mallet be inactive on game day?  The third QB "rule" was eliminated.  There's no benefit to making them inactive.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: BigDaddyFin on November 05, 2011, 06:53:26 pm
IF he's inactive then he must really really suck.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: MaineDolFan on November 05, 2011, 11:05:20 pm
St.Louis does not suck. They almost made the playoffs last year and this year look at their schedule. They opened with Philly, Giants, Ravens, Packers, Cowboys, Redskins (when they were still good), Saints...for a young team on the rise that is tough.They will finish the season close to .500 because their schedule gets much easier. That is not bad team by any means. Their schedule was just front loaded.

Philly started, what?  1-4?  The Giants are not great, the Redskins are terrible.  The Cowboys are less than average.  You didn't exactly rattle off a list of Saints, Patriots, Packers (twice), Ravens...

Any team that is 1-6 sucks.  I love how St. Louis is 1-6 and it's injuries and strength of schedule.  Miami is 0-7 (and by the way, was pretty much in every one of the games minus one) and just suck (although they've had an equally hard schedule and injury issues as well). 

Bradford, plain and simple, isn't the savior in St. Louis.  They had a decent, okay at best season last season.  They might get 5 wins this year. 


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: MikeO on November 05, 2011, 11:11:07 pm
You didn't exactly rattle off a list of Saints, Patriots, Packers (twice), Ravens...


Yeah I did. I named 3 of those teams ::). Ravens, Saints, and Packers. Giants are in 1st place. Redskins started off the year hot before tanking. And Dallas is very good.

But believe what ya want.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: mecadonzilla on November 06, 2011, 12:26:55 am
Miami is 0-7 (and by the way, was pretty much in every one of the games minus one) and just suck (although they've had an equally hard schedule and injury issues as well).   

I might give you strength of schedule, but what injury issues has this team had?  There have been spot injuries for the games, but St. Louis has been missing almost all of their receivers and almost all of the CBs all season long.  The only season ending injury loss Miami has endured is that of the QB, who isn't significantly better than the guy who replaced him.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: Tenshot13 on November 06, 2011, 01:01:12 am
I might give you strength of schedule, but what injury issues has this team had?  There have been spot injuries for the games, but St. Louis has been missing almost all of their receivers and almost all of the CBs all season long.  The only season ending injury loss Miami has endured is that of the QB, who isn't significantly better than the guy who replaced him.
I disagree...if we had Henne we would have at least won the Denver game.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: mecadonzilla on November 06, 2011, 03:32:10 am
I don't see a difference between Henne and Moore.  They might as well be the same person except that Moore is more mobile.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 06, 2011, 02:13:43 pm
Why would Mallet be inactive on game day?  The third QB "rule" was eliminated.  There's no benefit to making them inactive.

Mallet is a paid spectator with a front row view on game day.  Hoyer is the back up QB.  If both Brady and Hoyer went down the game is probably lost, but Edelman played QB in college and would likely be at that position.


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 06, 2011, 08:59:04 pm
According to NFL.com's NE roster list (http://www.nfl.com/teams/roster?team=NE), Mallet is active.

Again, I don't understand why he would not be.  Prior to this season, teams did not activate the 3rd QB because it saved a roster spot.  But that exemption was just eliminated.  So what's the point of not activating Mallet?


Title: Re: Ryan Mallet anyone?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 07, 2011, 09:52:03 am
According to the offical game book on NFL.com (for the Steelers game) we as inactive and Hoyer was did not play.  Not sure what you are looking at.