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2 INT's and Wake just killed Romo for a sack. The D looks good so far and both backs are running hard. Nice start. -EK

Not thrilled about the PI on Sean Smith or the non-call on PI against Marshall on the following drive. Smith's receiver tripped on his own and Marshall was turned with a hand on his shoulder, preventing him from going up after the ball.

How about the catch he just made? Watching this game- at least up till now- it's unbelievable that Miami is 3-7 and Dallas is 6-4. Dolphins playing much hungrier. -EK

Moore NOT looking good, except for a couple of nice deep throws. He's put the ball on the ground twice on the snap, taken the ball out of field goal range (47 yarder missed) on a stupid sack, and he could've WALKED to the 5 yard line for a first down on the field goal in the first half.

True. On the other hand, He's been getting killed by the pass rush, and I have to admit I'm impressed/surprised he hasn't put the ball on the ground from that. -EK

FUCK!

Third missed snap by Moore. This one looks to cost a touchdown.

CRAP! Defense looked solid for the whole first half and now this.... -EK

Just as I logged in to predict this game to bring Moore back down to reality he fumbles the snap and 3 seconds later turns into a Dallas touchdown.  

What a scrub.

Look for our coward play callers to sit on it and hope to run out the clock and be satisfied with a 7 point defecit.

Not exactly mistake-free football from the phins in the first half. TWO false starts from Jake Long and 3 fumbles by Moore... to go along with all the other stupid mistakes. Pouncey also missed a chance to snap the ball for a 5-yard defensive offsides when the nose tackle took a few steps forward (right before the Moore fumble, IIRC).

Oddly, we still have a chance to score....I'll take 10-6 over 10-3 and a kneel down.  -EK

^ I'm with you.

I'm surprised we didn't kneel it down. 

What was the graphic they showed?  13 points this year with 2 minutes left and that being last in the NFL.  Typical.

EK, just to finish up the Moore getting crushed thing... I was impressed he didn't drop it when he got blind-sided after the second fumbled snap. Good job of holding on to the ball.

I hope Moore uses the break to clear his head. He's getting stressed out there and not keeping his calm. He rushed the throw to Bush in the endzone, placing it over the wrong shoulder. And followed that by running on a play when the only run that would've had ANY worth was a touchdown. Anything else would just eliminate the chance to run a play on third down... which is exactly what happened.

I thought they should have run out the clock the first time.

Anyway, they got the big play, now they need to finish

Great runs by Bush. Breaking tackles, showing speed and shiftiness...

Long getting beat by Ware... Those false starts show it as well.

And Moore finishes the drive by missing an open Gates for the first down inside the 5.

Matt Moore should have hit that one.

That missed FG in the first half is looming large.

Would've been easier if Moore had thrown it away instead of taking the sack... Would've been a 37-yarder instead of a 47-yarder.

Jake Long is committing a lot of penalties todays

Another Long false start, another good deep strike by Moore...

If they could just find the endzone...

Fucking A right he has the catch and the Touchdown! -EK

AND THEY DO! IT'S A MIAMI DOLPHINS TOUCHDOWN!!!

And of course, the defense gives it right back.  Three times they had him sacked and let him complete passes on the drive

Lots of pressure on Romo, but man his receivers adjust well.

Burnett should have gotten an unnecessary roughness on that tackle / pull-down of Clark and the cheerleader 10 yards out of bounds. That's just stupid.

Best catch by a Dolphin in a looking while; sweet one-hander by Bess for a first down.

Now that I complained about the missing flag for tackling out of bounds by the Dolphins, the refs go and throw one against the Boys. Very questionable, IMHO.

We need a big play on defense now.... Come on, guys!!!!!

Hated everything about that last drive. Conservative in the extreme.

This loss is on Sparano. Completely. Good game by the players, not perfect, but enough to win if it wasn't for their spineless coach.

Another loss because of coaching and poor QB play. Plus Jake Long committing way too many penalties.

Defense played well.....again! Coaching, QB, and offense still sucks against decent opponents which Dallas was.

Other than the snap over Moore's head, this was the costliest play of the whole game

I have been pretty mild tempered this season with the Dolphins and a lurker here over the years but last night was one of the few times I got mad watching a football game.

The last 3 and out by the offense almost had me throwing up my dinner.

Your right, coaching staff laid an egg but the players made too many mistakes at key times as well.

ARRGH....frustrating indeed.

I must've been watching a different game. What I saw was the offense put the team in a position to win, and the defense let Romo march right down the damn field to kick a FG and win the game. Dansby says he's the best LB in all of football, and he comes out with 2 whole tackles? The entire pass rush was non-existant in the fourth quarter. The O-line sucked for the entire game, but the D wasn't exactly stellar in the second half. -EK

^^^ Yeah, I'd agree that the Defense (coaches and players) failed down the stretch once again this year, but they did play well up until that point..  However, the missed snap by Moore and poor offensive line play also hurt.  I'd say this was a team loss, especially when you add in the missed field goal by special teams.

The offense didn't play that well either. They had the ball in good field position twice because of interceptions and all they got out of it was a FG I believe.  Miami had plenty of oppportunities to put points on the board in the 1st half and only had 9 points. If Miami converts just one of those opportunities into a TD, perhaps they are winning by more than 2 late in the game.

Pappy- totally agree. I was simply saying that the D was not stellar. -EK

The defense gave up 2 Touchdowns. One of which the Cowboys started the drive on the 2 yard line.

The defense played well! PERIOD!

^^They also gave up the game winning drive to the 10 yard line without much trouble. I got the feeling that if Dallas needed a TD on that final drive they would have gotten it. Dallas shot themselves in the foot early with a couple costly INT's that Tony will do from time to time. It was nice to see Miami get a couple picks, but both I believe bounced off a player before landing in the hands of a defender. I'm not knocking the D, but lets not get carried away with them either. Let's face it, neither the offense nor the defense could do anything with the game on the line.

You must not argue with Mike. He knows all and sees all. If he says the defense played stellar football, it MUST be true (didn't you see that he said that, "PERIOD?" The entire collapse of the franchise is the fault of Henne and Marshall, not the defense that is 24th int he league and giving up nearly 20 ppg. Haven't you been paying attention? -EK

to be fair, the defense is 16th in the league (pass defense is 24th, run defense is 7th)

Sorry, I shoulda been clearer. They're 24th in points allowed. -EK

No Parcells, Ireland, Sparano, Henne....with Marshall sprinkled in! That's the reason we suck and the collapse of the franchise.

Giving up around 20ppg should be enough to win more than 3 stinkin times!  If an offense can't score more than 20 pts on a somewhat consistent basis in this league with these rules tilted towards the offense, something is wrong with the offense. The defense isn't outstanding but its played good enough to win more than 3 times. Last Thursday was a prime example. They gave up 1 legit TD drive the entire game and we lose because the offense sucks.....AGAIN!

If you want to take the opposite stance of this, feel free but you look foolish!

I look foolish thinking a defense that is supposed to have been top five in the league but is next to last in creating turnovers is somehow supposed to be good enough to win more than three games? Or is it that allowing 20 ppg should be good enough to win more than three games? Giving up three TD's every week is NOT going to win a lot of games. And for the record, the D didn't give up "just one other TD" against Dallas. Cowboys scored 20 points. That means the D gave up 13 points beyond the TD with great field position. Do points scored on FG's suddenly not count? Take away the three games we won-- against teams combined to be 13-20-- and the defense is allowing over 23 ppg. You might be shocked to learn the offense is averaging 19 ppg. Simple math- 19-23= 3-8 record. -EK

So a defense that holds opponents to FG's is a bad thing? You got to be kidding me. Live in your bubble

No, they're not a bad thing, but they DO count. Living in a bubble is repeatedly saying, "the defense only gave up one TD," when the final score was 20-19. -EK

Defense isnt why Miami lost the game though, to say so is foolish

They were winning.....there was less than three minutes on the clock....they ended up losing....just like with Denver. Just like with the Giants. The defense can't stop anyone from scoring when it counts. If your team is ahead, the defense's job- their ONLY job- is to protect that lead. They have shown an inability to do that several times this year, but you keep giving them a free pass and saying they're "playing well," or "they're not the reason we lost." We scored enough to win the game; the fact the we had a lead- AGAIN- within two minutes left shows that we scored enough, but the D is incapable of preserving that lead. That is the definition of "why we lost." Reword it, backpedal, make whatever claims you want. You keep mentioning that the first touchdown didn't count because of field position. If the D was as good as you keep saying, they would have held to a field goal, not allowed a TD. Once again, when it really mattered, they folded. Stop always putting the blame for our season on the guys you hate, and own up. Dansby's popping off that he's the best linebacker in football, then he has TWO FREAKING TACKLES??? The defense is every bit as much to blame as the offense for every loss we've had, and they're equally responsibly for every win. When a team is 3-8, that means both sides of the ball suck. -EK

You are blaming a defense for letting a playoff caliber and division champ for scoring a touchdown when they took the ball over on the 3 yard line and not "holding" them. Are you serious? You say a lot of weird/odd/strange things this might be a home run even for you! Holy Crap!



Worst 2 examples to back up your stance. In the Denver game Marlon Moore DROPS an onside kick to ice the game. The Giants game the offense had 1 first down and 5 total yards in the fourth quarter. Maybe if the defense wasn't on the field the entire 4th quarter they wouldn't have worn out!

We all know your gimmick. If I say UP you argue and say DOWN. If I say LEFT you will argue and say RIGHT. I say this guy stinks, you take the opposite stance and proclaim they are great. I make a simple claim that the defense has played well this year (never said elite or superstar level but well), so now you MUST take the opposite stance and say the defense sucks. Just because thats why you come here. To argue with me in every thread. It's your "gimmick" we get it. But by taking on this approach though it backs you into silly stances like the one you are forced to take. Like blaming the defense for giving up a 3 yard scoring drive.

Yes...in general I take the opposite stance of stupidity at any and all chance. Oh no. You've got me. It's lunacy to claim that ANY portion of a 3-8 team has played well. They haven't played well. They are statistically in the bottom half of the league in almost every category, still can't cover a tight end, still can't produce turnovers, still have a weak pass rush, and yet you label that as- and these are YOUR words- "playing well." I'm not arguing with YOU. Don't flatter yourself by thinking you're that important. I'm arguing against bad logic; it's not my fault you use so much of it. -EK

Keep trolling.

ha ha ha ha ha ha, .......Yeah the defense hasn't been playing well. How did they do vs Oakland today?? As if I needed more proof that THEY HAVE BEEN PLAYING WELL!!

ha ha ha ha ha!!! 

Let it go....this thread was about the Cowboys game, not Oakland....you have some issues, Mike. Maybe get some counseling. This thread was dead, and YOU keep bringing things up. Seriously, guy. I'm concerned for your well being. -EK