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Title: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: jtex316 on November 29, 2011, 08:50:09 am
1st coach to go.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 29, 2011, 03:55:01 pm
Colts fired their DC -Larry Coyer


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: Landshark on November 29, 2011, 04:10:18 pm
The Jags should consider making Bobby Brown their new head coach.  At least Brown has beaten Houston a few times.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: CF DolFan on November 29, 2011, 05:59:13 pm
A Pakistani native just bought the team.  Is anyone but me interested in how this will work out? I mean, Jacksonville is south Georgia. I know it's not right but I'm concerned this will not go over as well as a Muslim coaching in Tampa. I know it shouldn't matter but I'm thinking it just might.

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBeiaEtnbbAVq22wlodvcskLy-_HwIcQPE40tOBw7JvqWtT8hVBA)


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: Dave Gray on November 29, 2011, 06:17:00 pm
I think that this news is very relevant to the Dolphins.

Basically, there are a few coaches that teams are going to try to get the jump on, like Cowher, Gruden, etc.  Miami can't negotiate with a coach on the payroll, especially because of what went down trying to get Harbaugh on board.  You might see Miami make a move sooner than later.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: tubba marxxx on November 29, 2011, 06:20:15 pm
I think that this news is very relevant to the Dolphins.

Basically, there are a few coaches that teams are going to try to get the jump on, like Cowher, Gruden, etc.  Miami can't negotiate with a coach on the payroll, especially because of what went down trying to get Harbaugh on board.  You might see Miami make a move sooner than later.

Didn't Del Rio play for the Dolphins at one point?


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: tubba marxxx on November 29, 2011, 06:30:16 pm
he was for his last season, a rookie Zach Thomas beat him for the starting spot and he thus retired.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: MikeO on November 29, 2011, 11:22:45 pm
he was for his last season, a rookie Zach Thomas beat him for the starting spot and he thus retired.

if memory serves me correct he didn't make it through training camp. Was one of the final cuts once Zach beat him out. But don't hold me to that it was a while ago


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: Landshark on November 29, 2011, 11:55:42 pm
if memory serves me correct he didn't make it through training camp. Was one of the final cuts once Zach beat him out. But don't hold me to that it was a while ago

He wasn't one of the final cuts.  He got cut after the first preseason game.  He made some good plays, but he only had three tackles in the game and Zach had 8.  Most coaches would've played it safe and kept Del Rio around to mentor Zach.  Not the case with JJ.  He cut Del Rio and promoted Zach.  We all know what happened after.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: jtex316 on November 30, 2011, 07:45:04 am
A Pakistani native just bought the team.  Is anyone but me interested in how this will work out? I mean, Jacksonville is south Georgia. I know it's not right but I'm concerned this will not go over as well as a Muslim coaching in Tampa. I know it shouldn't matter but I'm thinking it just might.

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBeiaEtnbbAVq22wlodvcskLy-_HwIcQPE40tOBw7JvqWtT8hVBA)

Typical "southerner" response (not you specifically but that sentiment). Who gives a shit? On both accounts?

I guess if they do have a problem with it, I'm sure he'll have no problems moving the team to L.A.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: Dave Gray on November 30, 2011, 02:08:51 pm
I heard some sports reporters saying that the NFL is going to love this guy.  He's supposedly more of a fan on the NFL than any of the other 31 owners. 

The real question: Do they move the team?


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: CF DolFan on November 30, 2011, 03:51:30 pm
At this point he guaranteed he wouldn't move the team. Is having a "fan" really good for a team? I mean, in the case of Ross I think that has really worked against him.

jtex ... it is a southerner response.  That's what I was referring to.  Jacksonville is about as southern a big town as I can think of.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: Phishfan on November 30, 2011, 04:05:34 pm
I've never heard Ross being accused as too big a fan. If anything, he has been called too much a business man.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: Dave Gray on November 30, 2011, 04:30:15 pm
^ Yeah, me too.

The knock on Ross is that he doesn't know enough about the game, and only knows about running a traditional business.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 01, 2011, 01:02:19 pm
fired and only 2 years too late.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: Landshark on December 01, 2011, 06:58:48 pm
If this new owner wants to keep the team in Jax and energize the fan base, there is one move he could make that would do it...... make a trade with Denver for Tim Tebow. 


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: CF DolFan on December 02, 2011, 08:40:11 am
I've never heard Ross being accused as too big a fan. If anything, he has been called too much a business man.
Huh? The music star stuff. The flying across the country and destroying your coach. The idiotic predictions about Henne and other stuff about the team. Most of that really has more fan behind it than business. I understand the "star" thing being about money but I still believe it wouldn't have seemed so cool to him if he wasn't starstruck.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 03, 2011, 11:14:03 am
Looks like Norv Turner as well. 

https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/142955614056878080

Chargers would be my first choice if I was a coach.  They have loads of talent and with better coaching they would have won a SB or multiple SBs turning that time span. 


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: fyo on December 07, 2011, 07:58:03 am
A Pakistani native just bought the team.

This is really bringing out the idiots. Check this NFL.com comment by "wickyp":

Lets just hope he is truly legit and a percentage of team revenue isnt going under the radar to fund alqaida trainig in the Pak. read his bio though and no red flags so far. and it would be good PR for the middle eastern/west asian community.

( source: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d824cef5e/article/nfl-finance-committee-supports-khan-as-jaguars-owner )

I don't even know where to begin with shit like that. He read through the guy's bio and "no red flags so far"? OMFG... and, by the way, if the guy has three quarters of a BILLION DOLLARS lying around, why would he want or need to use an NFL team to funnel money to terrorists? Seriously, that's moronic, even for random Internet comments.

In any event, the fans in Jacksonville seem to have taken to their new owner, with the overwhelming concern being whether he moves the team (which he has said he won't).


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: Frimp on December 07, 2011, 08:36:56 am
^^^

I read on another board that the Jags are contracted for at least 10 more years with Jacksonville. Not sure how true that is, but its something


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: fyo on December 07, 2011, 09:07:57 am
I read on another board that the Jags are contracted for at least 10 more years with Jacksonville. Not sure how true that is, but its something

The stadium lease runs until 2029 (!) and is supposedly "tight". However, a lawyer involved in negotiating that lease said the owner would have to pay the city of Jacksonville about $90 million to move (link (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/article/229172/3/General-Counsel-said-Jaguars-Lease-is-Tight)).

To me, that sounds like peanuts when considering the money involved and that the team "only" cost $760 million. A team in LA could easily be with significantly more than a billion dollars. The most recent Forbes list had half the teams in the NFL at or above $1B, with the 'Boys in first place at $1.8B. The Forbes list had the Jags in last place at $725, which is reasonably in line with the purchase price.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: CF DolFan on December 07, 2011, 09:17:24 am
I don't get the love with LA. Am I missing something? I mean ... it sounds good in theory but how many teams have to fail there to prove it won't work? Heck, their storied baseball team can't even succeed. What's to think football version 3.0 would work?

I guess people are taking to the new guy even going to sporting his trademark mustache.  It's all fun and games for now but I really hope he brings in a coach with some character.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: MikeO on December 08, 2011, 07:33:46 pm
I don't get the love with LA. Am I missing something? I mean ... it sounds good in theory but how many teams have to fail there to prove it won't work? Heck, their storied baseball team can't even succeed. What's to think football version 3.0 would work?

I guess people are taking to the new guy even going to sporting his trademark mustache.  It's all fun and games for now but I really hope he brings in a coach with some character.

Because this time they are doing it right for football, not making the teams play in the ghetto (The Coliseum) and having fans take their lives in their hands getting to and from the stadium. They are building it next to STAPLES CENTER and building up the LA LIVE district. Making it something special. AEG has huge money behind it. If you see the blue prints of not just the stadium but the entire area around it its amazing. They want to break ground in 2012. Have a team by 2016 and then have the 2017 Super Bowl. It will have a "deployable roof" which they can put together on the ground and put over the stadium for certain events and if they don't want a roof for certain events not use it. So for all football games it will be a TRUE open air stadium. But if they want a political convention or a Final Four they put together the roof and just have the stadium have a roof that way. Much better than a retractable roof. Same general concept just cleaner looking and much better all around.


Title: Re: Jack Del Rio fired as HC of Jags
Post by: bsmooth on December 09, 2011, 12:50:47 am
A Pakistani native just bought the team.  Is anyone but me interested in how this will work out? I mean, Jacksonville is south Georgia. I know it's not right but I'm concerned this will not go over as well as a Muslim coaching in Tampa. I know it shouldn't matter but I'm thinking it just might.

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBeiaEtnbbAVq22wlodvcskLy-_HwIcQPE40tOBw7JvqWtT8hVBA)


Of course there will be some negativity. There are certain elements in politics and media who have demonized a whole religion and over 1 billion of its follows as evil.