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Title: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: Landshark on January 01, 2012, 11:35:39 pm
Here's a thread where we can discuss fired coaches and their replacements.

So far, Del Rio in Jacksonville, Haley in KC, and Sparano with the Dolphins have gotten the ax.  Here's my predicitons for coaches who will meet a similar fate:

Norv Turner-  This San Diego team has grossly underachieved with the talent that is on its roster.  Time to get a coach in there who knows what he is doing.

Raheem Morris-  I feel bad for this guy as it is only his third year and he had a team supposedly on the rise after last season.  However, you can't justify 10 straight losses to end the season

Jason Garrett-  Jerry Jones can say all he wants to the media, fact is, he is good friends with Jeff Fisher, and the Cowboys, like the Chargers, grossly underachieved despite the talent level and many weapons on offense.

Jim Caldwell-  Having such a dismal season after years of being a perennial playoff team gets him run out of town. 

Steve Spagnuolo- Took some giant steps backward after contending for the divisional crown last season.

Andy Reid-  The walrus mustache put together a "dream team" that quickly became a nightmare.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: SportsChick on January 01, 2012, 11:51:37 pm
Reports are that Steve Spagnuolo will be fired tomorrow (Chris Mortenson etc. via twitter)


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2012, 05:30:42 am
Caldwell's job hinges on whether they keep Manning or go with Luck. If they are going with Luck, then Caldwell is done they will want  a new coach to grow with the new QB


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: Pappy13 on January 02, 2012, 09:45:09 am
I don't think the talent level in Dallas is as good as most people think it is. They have a lot of guys that run very hot and cold. They'll make a couple great plays one week and then look very average 2 weeks in a row.  Maybe that's coaching and maybe that inconsistent play from the players.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: Dave Gray on January 02, 2012, 10:43:39 am
I really don't think Reid should be fired.  That's a mistake, in my opinion.  Bringing together a group of superstars is not easy.  They improved a lot at the seasons' end.  I think that they could be contenders next year without many changes, while keeping Reid.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: tepop84 on January 02, 2012, 11:26:41 am
Jim Caldwell is a super retard and should never have gotten that job in the first place. 



Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2012, 11:31:43 am
I really don't think Reid should be fired.  That's a mistake, in my opinion.  Bringing together a group of superstars is not easy.  They improved a lot at the seasons' end.  I think that they could be contenders next year without many changes, while keeping Reid.

Reid isn't getting fired. Not the way they ended the season. They will hire a Mike Nolan or Eric Mangini to run the defense and they will be back in the playoffs/super bowl hunt next year.

 The owner in Philly loves Andy he was looking for reason NOT to fire him. He got them with the December they had.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: EKnight on January 02, 2012, 11:46:28 am
Philly went 5-3 in the second half of the season, same as Miami and with much more talent at the skill positions. Given that Sparano got fired, it's not inconceivable that Reid would be, IMO. -EK


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2012, 11:55:18 am
Philly went 5-3 in the second half of the season, same as Miami and with much more talent at the skill positions. Given that Sparano got fired, it's not inconceivable that Reid would be, IMO. -EK

Reid has gone to 4 NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl for that franchise.

Sparano went to 1 playoff  game in 4 years and couldn't crack .500 the rest of his time here


Little different, bad comparison.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2012, 11:57:20 am
TB just fired Morris


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: EKnight on January 02, 2012, 12:05:54 pm
Reid has gone to 4 NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl for that franchise.

Sparano went to 1 playoff  game in 4 years and couldn't crack .500 the rest of his time here


Little different, bad comparison.

Fair enough, but don't qualify your previous statement with "Not the way they ended the season." They ended the season the same was as Miami, and our coach got axed. THAT part of the comparison is completely valid, given the parameters that you set. -EK


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2012, 12:10:24 pm
Fair enough, but don't qualify your previous statement with "Not the way they ended the season." They ended the season the same was as Miami, and our coach got axed. THAT part of the comparison is completely valid, given the parameters that you set. -EK

don't tell me how to qualify MY statement....It's MY STATEMENT! lol



Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: EKnight on January 02, 2012, 12:13:36 pm
Fine, but if you make that statement, it's illogical to debate someone pointing out its incorrectness. Reid may keep his job because of all of his past accomplishments, NOT because he had the same second half record that got another coach canned. -EK


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2012, 12:21:28 pm
whatever.....

back to the topic. If Norv Turner survives today that dude has nine lives and  ismade of Teflon


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 02, 2012, 03:35:43 pm
Fair enough, but don't qualify your previous statement with "Not the way they ended the season." They ended the season the same was as Miami, and our coach got axed.
This comparison is absurd.

EK, in case you didn't notice, Sparano was fired with 3 games remaining.  Therefore, the end to SPARANO'S season was not 5-3.

And furthermore, Philly's 5-3 end came after a 3-5 run, not a 0-7 run.  So no, it's not even remotely comparable.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: EKnight on January 02, 2012, 03:40:03 pm
I feel like it is. Further, I don't think one conference championship in 13 years is enough to keep a coach with the talent Reid has had. -EK


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: fyo on January 02, 2012, 04:52:33 pm
The Polians are out in Indy. No word yet on Caldwell, but it would be one heck of a shocker if he stayed.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: Landshark on January 02, 2012, 06:04:54 pm
The Polians are out in Indy. No word yet on Caldwell, but it would be one heck of a shocker if he stayed.

Oh shit!!!!  Ross, get rid of Ireland, get on the phone, and get Bill Polian down here!!!


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2012, 06:15:13 pm
This comparison is absurd.

EK, in case you didn't notice, Sparano was fired with 3 games remaining.  Therefore, the end to SPARANO'S season was not 5-3.

And furthermore, Philly's 5-3 end came after a 3-5 run, not a 0-7 run.  So no, it's not even remotely comparable.

Thank you Spider for pointing out the obvious.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: fyo on January 02, 2012, 07:14:27 pm
Oh shit!!!!  Ross, get rid of Ireland, get on the phone, and get Bill Polian down here!!!

Pretty much what I thought initially, but reactions from Indy fans and media have changed my mind. Bill Polian's health is apparently a significant issue and he was being very hands off as President. The Polian running the show these past 2-3 years was apparently Chris (Bill's son), who appears to be pretty much universally hated in Indy by players, coaches, scouts, and the media.

The belief is that Bill is probably going to call it quits and even if he didn't, it would be a package deal with Chris.

And considering the general level of young talent on the team, I'd rather look elsewhere if Ireland were to be replaced.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: fyo on January 02, 2012, 08:42:51 pm
In other coaching news around the league, the Bills fired their DC and replaced him with their linebackers coach. Aka Dave Wannstedt.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: Phishfan on January 03, 2012, 09:55:20 am
Oh shit!!!!  Ross, get rid of Ireland, get on the phone, and get Bill Polian down here!!!

With they way their "talent" performed without Manning? I'd rather not.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: Tenshot13 on January 03, 2012, 04:07:46 pm
Steveo on Phiinzrage posted this

AdamSchefter
 by jakewinderman
Chargers announced HC Norv Turner and GM A.J. Smith will return.


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: MikeO on January 03, 2012, 05:43:26 pm
Steveo on Phiinzrage posted this

AdamSchefter
 by jakewinderman
Chargers announced HC Norv Turner and GM A.J. Smith will return.

One less team Miami is fighting with over Fisher


Title: Re: 2012 coaching carousel
Post by: EKnight on January 04, 2012, 08:19:45 am
They keep Norv at 8-8, but when Marty went 14-2 they fired him? How's that work? -EK