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Title: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Dave Gray on March 14, 2012, 03:51:28 pm
Here's how I see his choices:

Denver:
+ Good defense
+ Crappy division
- Bad receivers, will result in running fan favorite Tebow out on a rail

Tennessee:
+ Beloved figure from college

Miami:
+ Lives here
+ Good defense
+ High draft pick to use
- Bad/New management
- Bad receivers (with Marshall gone)

Arizona:
+ New stadium
+ Elite WR in Fitzgerald
- NFC, where he'll have to play Eli in playoffs




Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 14, 2012, 04:01:14 pm
I think you need to add a really poor offensive line in AZ as a negative.

Prior to trading away Marshall I thought Miami might be a no brainer....now I think offensively Tennessee has better overall weapons at Peyton's disposal of the teams in the AFC, which I have heard that he wants to stay in the conference. As of right now I think he is going to Denver.


If I were Peyton I would go to Arizona as they have some nice weapons on offense and they have an up and coming defense as well. They could still add some pieces to improve the line. This of course changed because Miami dumped Marshall.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Dave Gray on March 14, 2012, 04:41:51 pm
Here's what I don't get about Denver:

You have to think that the likelihood of Peyton working out with ANY team is probably below 50%.  They may be OK, but he'll probably play 2 years, maybe get into the playoffs, but if you're a gambling man, the smart money is on Peyton ultimately not working out.

So, with Denver, they love Tebow.  Even though the rest of the country thinks he sucks, they love him.  And if Peyton comes in, he's gone.  Why would Manning want to risk being blamed for running their fan-favorite out of town?  It just seems like an unneeded complication.  If he comes to Miami, nobody is going to be upset that we had to say goodbye to Matt Moore.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Phishfan on March 14, 2012, 04:48:04 pm
I cannot understand why Denver is in the running either. He must really like the staff. I think Tennessee is the leader right now. Also, if I was Peyton there is a team not in the running apparently that I think I would have really considered myself and that is Houston.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: MikeO on March 14, 2012, 05:24:24 pm
I think Manning will be SHOCKED when he see's the financial offers.

Arizona is in a salary cap mess

Denver has the money but talk is cheap, write a check and then tell me

Tenn,  Bud Adams will pay Peyton what he wants? Wait and see on that.  And can he?

The ONLY team with a blank check is Miami but if Manning waits too long he might lose that.

I have a feeling this is over by Friday because the longer Manning waits the less leverage he has. Teams will move on.

I THINK Denver. But I wouldn't be shocked by Miami as long as Miami hasn't moved on Flynn.

P.S...I don't think Denver is any good I have no idea why he wants to go there. Every "decent' team they played last year their defense got lit up and the offense, well why bother!


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: tubba marxxx on March 14, 2012, 05:54:25 pm
Tennessee


Local hero from college days, plus the chance got stick it to Indy twice a year..the only thing that would make it more perfect is if Fisher were still the coach in Tenn


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 14, 2012, 05:59:57 pm
I would go to Miami and

Retire!

He has enough money and is seriously risking never walking again if he gets hit.



Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Pappy13 on March 14, 2012, 06:22:50 pm
He has enough money and is seriously risking never walking again if he gets hit.
Hasn't that been true for the last 13 or so years as well? I think you seriously underestimate the competitive desire in these guys. Marino had surgery on his knees just about every year so that he could continue to play. Manning strikes me as that type of guy too. I don't think he's even thinking about retiring in a few years right now, I think he's thinking about being one of the few guys to lift the Lombardi Trophy for 2 different teams and perhaps how long that might take.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: masterfins on March 14, 2012, 08:29:12 pm
I think he should sign with the Vikings, that's were everyone goes to end their careers.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Thundergod on March 15, 2012, 01:55:10 am
Denver. Denver made it to the playoffs/(won) with that crap offense, and in that crap division. I could only imagine if he returned healthy and they surrounded him with a few pieces on offense... They have the $$ to do it. Why not?


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: MikeO on March 15, 2012, 06:09:01 am
Bud Adams offered Peyton a "contract for life" yesterday

And Miami has a dysfunctional front office? Give me a break


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: DZA on March 15, 2012, 09:33:57 pm

Miami:

- Bad receivers (with Marshall gone)


SO  ::) ::) Devon Bess  ??? Brian Hartline  ??? Anthony Fasano  ??? Ed Gates   

Marlon Moore, Julius Pruitt, Roberto Wallace

The WR corps is a little lacking in the ELITE department but they are not BAD


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Landshark on March 16, 2012, 07:08:15 am
SO  ::) ::) Devon Bess  ??? Brian Hartline  ??? Anthony Fasano  ??? Ed Gates   

Marlon Moore, Julius Pruitt, Roberto Wallace

The WR corps is a little lacking in the ELITE department but they are not BAD

That receiving corps is not going to scare anybody. 


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: CF DolFan on March 16, 2012, 07:45:00 am
That receiving corps is not going to scare anybody. 
Not true. They scare Dolphin fans.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: CF DolFan on March 16, 2012, 09:15:09 am
Is it just me hoping wherever Payton ends up becomes this year's Phildelphia Eagles.  I've gone from being a fan of his to kind of hoping he fails and honestly, I know I don't have a legitimate reason to feel that way.  :-\


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: EKnight on March 16, 2012, 10:02:52 am
I think you DO have a legitimate reason. The guy went from reportedly going to decide before free agency, to now heading into a second week of not making a decision. And sorry, but guess what? None of the teams he is flirting with is going to make the SuperBowl, so what's the freaking difference at this point? Decide, choose, pick, move on with your life, so the rest of the football world can too. -EK


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 16, 2012, 01:25:28 pm
Not true. They scare Dolphin fans.

Isn't that the truth......lol


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Thundergod on March 16, 2012, 01:48:02 pm
Not true. They scare Dolphin fans.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/lordthundergod/lmao.gif)   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/lordthundergod/thumbsup.gif)


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: bsfins on March 16, 2012, 02:23:33 pm
I'd go to the 49ers.....I like that over most of the options,even if I have to face Eli in the playoffs...

Hey it's being reported he threw for Harbaugh,and the O-coordinator (and took physical)..(twitter Mort and Schef)
https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/180718178157068288 (https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/180718178157068288)


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: CF DolFan on March 16, 2012, 03:51:49 pm
I agree. After that I would choose 10-I-see. He may not win int all there but it gives him a great place to retire to hero status.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: MikeO on March 17, 2012, 11:26:29 am
Mike Klis of Denver Post Saturday morning reporting the Broncos have "diminished expectations" they will sign Peyton

Either his workout for them sucked or they ain't paying a 36 year old $90+ mill.

But this makes me happy because it means Tebow is staying in Denver and NO chance they cut him or trade him and our crazy owner Stephen Ross does something stupid!


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Spider-Dan on March 17, 2012, 08:10:37 pm
His workout for them was a week ago.

The last week has consisted entirely of reporters throwing crap against the wall.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: bsmooth on March 17, 2012, 08:15:25 pm
http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/14/trading-cards-give-glimpse-of-peyton-mannings-future/


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: fyo on March 17, 2012, 09:22:54 pm
There were reports that one of the advantages Tennessee had was that they could provide a position within the organization after Manning stopped playing.

I gotta ask... how does the league handle this? Seems like an obvious way to skirt salary restrictions.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Landshark on March 18, 2012, 01:12:28 am
There were reports that one of the advantages Tennessee had was that they could provide a position within the organization after Manning stopped playing.

I gotta ask... how does the league handle this? Seems like an obvious way to skirt salary restrictions.

They can't.  There is no salary restrictions on coaches and front office personnel.  The Titans would have to void the contract he signed as a player and re-do it for him as a front office employee. 


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 18, 2012, 04:59:55 pm
Hasn't that been true for the last 13 or so years as well? I think you seriously underestimate the competitive desire in these guys. Marino had surgery on his knees just about every year so that he could continue to play. Manning strikes me as that type of guy too. I don't think he's even thinking about retiring in a few years right now, I think he's thinking about being one of the few guys to lift the Lombardi Trophy for 2 different teams and perhaps how long that might take.

The question is what would I do if I was in Manning's position, not what I think Manning would do.  If I was in Manning's postion I would take the money and run. 

As for the risk for the last 13 years.  Its different.  He is much more prone to get permantly injured now than was the case 13 years ago.  Plus 13 years ago he didn't have millions of dollars.  So not playing football means being an ordinary Joe.  Now retiring means that he gets into the HOF sooner and he ha more than enough money to enjoy the rest of his life. 


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: Pappy13 on March 18, 2012, 07:00:19 pm
As for the risk for the last 13 years.  Its different.  He is much more prone to get permantly injured now than was the case 13 years ago.
No, he's not. Injured maybe, permanently injured, no.

Plus 13 years ago he didn't have millions of dollars.
He was the number 1 pick. His rookie contract was for 48 million over 6 years, with an 11 million signing bonus. He's always had millions of dollars.

So not playing football means being an ordinary Joe.  Now retiring means that he gets into the HOF sooner and he ha more than enough money to enjoy the rest of his life.
Seriously? He's gonna be in the hall no matter what happens. Who cares whether it's in 5 years or 10, it's gonna happen. He only has a few years left to win another Lombardi trophy. Manning doesn't do what he does because he likes football. He does what he does because football is his life.


Title: Re: If you were Manning, what would you do?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 18, 2012, 07:50:43 pm
No, he's not. Injured maybe, permanently injured, no.

Reports are his much more likely to become paralyzed b/c of the injury.

Quote

He was the number 1 pick. His rookie contract was for 48 million over 6 years, with an 11 million signing bonus. He's always had millions of dollars.


He didn't always have the millions.  He needed to at min play his rookie year to be a millionare. 

But if after one year he said -- I am set for life, time to retire, that would not have been a horible plan from a finacial/injury risk standpoint.  (And what I would have done)