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Title: fire ireland petition Post by: MixLovesThemPhins on March 19, 2012, 08:25:08 am http://www.change.org/petitions/the-miami-dolphins-fire-jeff-ireland (http://www.change.org/petitions/the-miami-dolphins-fire-jeff-ireland)
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Cathal on March 19, 2012, 08:34:47 am Seriously?
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: MixLovesThemPhins on March 19, 2012, 09:01:07 am yep, this man is ruining my team
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: CF DolFan on March 19, 2012, 09:40:33 am Like Peter King said ... Jeff Ireland. In the history of NFL general managers, Ireland is on the coldest streak ever. He needs to do something right.
No doubt he and Ross has to be feeling the effects of not accomplishing anything nor appearing to not have an actual plan. Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Cathal on March 19, 2012, 10:23:27 am What I meant by seriously is that an online petition has never solved anything. It's just a waste of time. I want them gone too but an online petition isn't the way.
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: EKnight on March 19, 2012, 10:56:02 am ^^Completely agree. Whiffing on three- maybe four, now- QBs this offseason isn't entirely his doing (I believe Ross had a hand in some of that), but even if it was, that hasn't been enough for Ross to fire him, so somehow an online petition will change ownership's mind?? -EK
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Doc-phin on March 19, 2012, 12:02:32 pm ^^Completely agree. Whiffing on three- maybe four, now- QBs this offseason isn't entirely his doing (I believe Ross had a hand in some of that), but even if it was, that hasn't been enough for Ross to fire him, so somehow an online petition will change ownership's mind?? -EK First of all it would be a "whiff" on two. And considering the way the Payton Manning thing has gone there will be a lot of teams that will fall into your "whiff" category. Second, I wasn't sold on Flynn. I was more nervous about him than excited about him. If Philbin thought he was all that good, I am pretty sure we would have offered him whatever he wanted. All this tells me is that Philbin doesn't think he has shown him anything to demonstrate he deserves top tier money. Lastly, they didn't whiff on Moore last year. We were all scratching our heads on that signing (including me) and he did a very good job considering no training camp and coming in off the bench. The biggest whiff is on the Brandon Marshall situation. But there is still a chance to remedy that a bit in the draft. Of course it is going to take a couple of years for a receiver to develop, but still too soon to call it a whiff. Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: MixLovesThemPhins on March 19, 2012, 12:45:17 pm i dunno if this shit works or not but fuck it it's something
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Cathal on March 19, 2012, 01:06:45 pm I like your attitude. lol
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: bsmooth on March 19, 2012, 01:27:58 pm First of all it would be a "whiff" on two. And considering the way the Payton Manning thing has gone there will be a lot of teams that will fall into your "whiff" category. Second, I wasn't sold on Flynn. I was more nervous about him than excited about him. If Philbin thought he was all that good, I am pretty sure we would have offered him whatever he wanted. All this tells me is that Philbin doesn't think he has shown him anything to demonstrate he deserves top tier money. Lastly, they didn't whiff on Moore last year. We were all scratching our heads on that signing (including me) and he did a very good job considering no training camp and coming in off the bench. The biggest whiff is on the Brandon Marshall situation. But there is still a chance to remedy that a bit in the draft. Of course it is going to take a couple of years for a receiver to develop, but still too soon to call it a whiff. Why is this fallacy still being oushed around. MikeO showed with articles how the buck stops with Ireland for all player decisions. So you and others keep mentioning Philbin as not being high on Flynn, just because Miami did not sign him. It seems the only person(s) not really interested is Ireland and maybe Ross. Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Pappy13 on March 19, 2012, 01:37:46 pm Why is this fallacy still being oushed around. MikeO showed with articles how the buck stops with Ireland for all player decisions. So you and others keep mentioning Philbin as not being high on Flynn, just because Miami did not sign him. It seems the only person(s) not really interested is Ireland and maybe Ross. Yes because we should believe what we read in articles rather than believe what came out of Ireland's and Philbin's own mouth.http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_seasonticket/2012/01/does-jeff-ireland-have-final-say-over-miami-dolphins-personnel-decisions.html “Technically, it’s mine,” Ireland said Thursday during a visit to the Sun Sentinel offices, “but we’ve talked about this too. We’re in this thing together. I believe in finding players for the head coach to help this franchise be successful. Again, it’s a team game". “Just like he’s going to have expertise over me on hiring a coaching staff, but it’s not like he’s not going to talk to me about it. And I’m certainly not going to draft a player or trade for a player or sign a player that I haven’t talked to Joe about. So that’s where it’s a mutual decision-making agreement that we have.” Philbin, for his part, said, “Some of that stuff’s overrated” when it comes to final say over personnel. Those are direct quotes, not from "sources". Straight from the people involved and yet people don't want to believe it. I can't help that. Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Doc-phin on March 19, 2012, 02:17:04 pm Yes because we should believe what we read in articles rather than believe what came out of Ireland's and Philbin's own mouth. http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_seasonticket/2012/01/does-jeff-ireland-have-final-say-over-miami-dolphins-personnel-decisions.html “Technically, it’s mine,” Ireland said Thursday during a visit to the Sun Sentinel offices, “but we’ve talked about this too. We’re in this thing together. I believe in finding players for the head coach to help this franchise be successful. Again, it’s a team game". “Just like he’s going to have expertise over me on hiring a coaching staff, but it’s not like he’s not going to talk to me about it. And I’m certainly not going to draft a player or trade for a player or sign a player that I haven’t talked to Joe about. So that’s where it’s a mutual decision-making agreement that we have.” Philbin, for his part, said, “Some of that stuff’s overrated” when it comes to final say over personnel. Those are direct quotes, not from "sources". Straight from the people involved and yet people don't want to believe it. I can't help that. Word. Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: tubba marxxx on March 19, 2012, 02:40:59 pm Can we Impeach Ross too?
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: tubba marxxx on March 19, 2012, 07:58:26 pm http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Dolfans-Backlash-Hits-Wikipedia-143328866.html
fucking amazing Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Thundergod on March 19, 2012, 08:00:18 pm ^^^ HA!
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Doc-phin on March 19, 2012, 08:15:05 pm http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Dolfans-Backlash-Hits-Wikipedia-143328866.html fucking amazing Gotta admit, that is pretty unbelievable. I don't agree with it but still, PRETTY DAMN FUNNY. Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Cathal on March 19, 2012, 08:39:02 pm How can you not agree with it?
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Doc-phin on March 19, 2012, 08:53:30 pm How can you not agree with it? After the Garrard signing, I am starting to change my mind. Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: Cathal on March 19, 2012, 08:58:04 pm I used to defend these guys but this offseason has changed my mind as well. I'm just seeing this team sucking for a long time to come so long as both of these guys are in control.
Title: Re: fire ireland petition Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 20, 2012, 03:15:00 pm That Wiki page was great I wished I had seen it.
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