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...and the body will die."

You have seen the last of Greg Williams in the NFL.  His indefinite suspension will be a lifelong ban.  Count on that.  In a day & age when the commissioner has made it his goal in life to reduce injuries, specifically head injuries, this could not have been a worse quote to have been caught on tape for this guy.

Hope he managed his money well.  He won't be working in the bigs ever again.

not just the bigs...

Would you hire him if you were an AD at a big time school?

Would you hire him if you were a pop warner coordinator?

Would you hire him if you were a grocery store manager and needed baggers?

He should just go to an unnamed island where no one has heard of the NFL and live under a palm tree.

I haven't been keeping up with it completely, but I also saw on the news that all of the appeals are on hold because criminal charges are now pending because of this.  This story is only going to get larger.  You're right, Williams will be lucky if he is a greeter at Walmart.

There's no such thing as greeters at Walmart anymore.   Which pretty much fits Williams very well.   ;)

Of course not.


Enough folks in NO feel that Williams has been treated unfairly that getting that job at LSU would increase almuni donations. 

So yes, he will work again, but probably only in the big easy. 

Serously? I have not been in quite a long time. I have to pass Target to get to Wal-Mart so that is where I go.

I read the story this morning.  It's simply astounding.  What scum.

They just got rid of them about a month or two ago.   I'll bet Sam Walton was turning over in his grave when it happened.

I think the audio tape that came out sealed the deal.

Maine, you were correct in predicting Goodell's response the first time, and you'll probably be right this time, too.  For once, he actually held management to the same standard he holds players to.

My entire thought process begins and ends on with head injuries on this.  The commissions office has taken this on as a "pet project."  It's self serving, of course, due to the staggering financial liabilities they are facing with the potential link between ALS / concussions, etc.  However, the NFL simply can't have this. 

The commission was recognized by the Sports Legacy Institute (http://nflhealthandsafety.com/commitment/programs/   <---read this article) for his work with concussions and head trauma.  It's the largest crisis the NFL is facing today - Williams is now the poster boy, fair or not.  I promise coaches all around the league have bounty programs.  I also am sure more than one coordinator not named Williams spoke to him team on the side lines about how much easier this game would be if Marino, Young, Elway, Montana, Warner, Gore, etc, were on the sidelines...

But Williams got caught with his hand (voice) in the cookie jar.  Dude is done.

He will go to Canada. Wanna bet? lol

My thing with this, as many other issues, is that, although the NFL is violent game, it's still a business environment.  If any other profession were paying additional money in secret to injure others, they'd be in jail.  I know it's not the same, but it's similar enough to make a big deal out of it.

I'm not in any way whatsoever condoning this, BUT....I'm also not naive enough to believe N.O was the only team doing it. The same way that when Canseco said "half of baseball is juicing," and everyone thought he was nuts, but it turned out he wasn't, it wouldn't surprise me if this only scratches the surface. I'm not implying half the league does it, but I certainly don't think it's this isolated. -EK

I don't see how he ever returns to coaching.

I don't think anyone denies that everyone does this.  (I'd be surprised if everyone was paying players for injuries, but the concept of teaching to "take out" stars, sure...)

But he got caught.  You can't punnish everyone.  You can only punnish the ones you catch, in hopes that those you didn't catch will stop.

Williams can't return. Jeff Fisher can try and add him as a linebackers coach or something down the road but even that will be a tough sell. What owner will put up with him.

Bill Polian on SIRIUS NFL RADIO this afternoon went on a 20 min rant that is must-listen. I wish they archived their stuff so I could link it for ya. Going on about saying this stuff cant be tolerated. That when he was in Buffalo if a guy had a "huge play" or made a "impact play" (ie return a punt or kickoff for a TD, sack on 4th down to ice the game...etc) that they would buy the guy theater tickets or gift certificate to a fancy restaurant something like that. It was called a "reward program" and most teams have it. It's "positive" in nature and such. And he went on with saying in 35 years of being in the NFL a "bounty" has only happened twice. Philly with Buddy and now this. That painting every team in the NFL with a broad brush that well they all do it only the Saints got caught isn't true. That every coach, GM, and owner is forced to sign a form at the end of every season saying their team followed the rules to the best of their knowledge and if they get caught lying the punishment is severe. Not a lot of people know about this. He went on and on about how the Saints have tarnished the NFL  and the punishment is just. It was a great passionate rant. Not to mention it was dead on the point!

On top of that he got caught after he was specifically told to stop. That can't be underestimated as to why he was come down on so hard.

He got caught after telling Goodell and the NFL multiple times they didn't have a bounty system. They lied to the leagues face more than once

MikeO - the more I hear Polian, the more I really like him.  Selfishly I hope he doesn't get another gig soon because he will be very good on TV / radio.  I heard the same interview.

Oh I couldn't agree more. Polian is absolutely outstanding on SIRIUS NFL Radio. You learn so much about how teams operate and what really goes on behind the scenes with him.

Meh, I don't think I buy Polian's excuse.  If this was such a radical, outrageous, one-off program, how Williams have a bounty system on three different teams (Bills, Redskins, Saints)?

I don't think everyone was doing it, but I also don't think no one else was doing it.