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Title: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: bsfins on May 02, 2012, 02:04:31 pm
TMZ is reporting that a shooting has taken place....
TMZ Link (http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-shooting-police/#.T6F24OtYtv0) to story

Sorry had to practice making links shorter..

Link to confirm he's dead through TMZ
 TMZ confirming his death (http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-dead)


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Brian Fein on May 02, 2012, 02:20:32 pm
Wow this is somewhat sudden.  I saw the DolFan Bandits tweeted it first, and then not only 5 minutes later it is everywhere.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Frimp on May 02, 2012, 02:22:17 pm
I hope they get the punk who did this


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: bsfins on May 02, 2012, 02:26:37 pm
^^ they're reporting Cops suspect suicide....(but they keep clarifying,nothing confirmed yet)


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Frimp on May 02, 2012, 02:29:27 pm
^^

I saw that, but I highly doubt he killed himself. Hope I'm right about that


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Dave Gray on May 02, 2012, 02:33:31 pm
Holy crap.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Phishfan on May 02, 2012, 02:33:38 pm
Wow.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: SportsChick on May 02, 2012, 02:36:24 pm
Wow is right


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Doc-phin on May 02, 2012, 02:50:34 pm
Honestly shocked!  That is horrible!


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: CF DolFan on May 02, 2012, 03:08:22 pm
Reports I see strongly insinuate suicide. Or accidental I guess if you are optimistic.

OCEANSIDE, Calif. -- Police have responded to a reported shooting at the ocean front home of former NFL star Junior Seau.

The North County Times is reporting that the 12 time Pro Bowler has been found dead of an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound
.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/ktla-junior-seau-shooting,0,2601149.story


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: tubba marxxx on May 02, 2012, 03:29:29 pm
I have a little hard time believing the reports of suicide, but just 2 years ago he drove his car off a cliff.  Who knows.  Still horrifically sad.  Seau always seems like a class act.  Definitely will be missed.

RIP #55


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: EKnight on May 02, 2012, 03:39:26 pm
Speechless.  :( -EK


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: fyo on May 02, 2012, 04:08:10 pm
Another victim of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy?

EDIT: Several sources are reporting that the gunshot wound was to the chest. Can't help but think of Dave Duerson...


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: suck for luck on May 02, 2012, 04:26:18 pm
Apparently left a note saying that he shot himself in the chest because he wants his brain studied.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: masterfins on May 02, 2012, 04:53:10 pm
Prayers to his family.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: bsfins on May 02, 2012, 05:10:07 pm
Apparently left a note saying that he shot himself in the chest because he wants his brain studied.

That's being refuted right now....@ArmandoSalguero: RT @nytbishop: Officer said #Seau did not leave a note


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on May 02, 2012, 05:18:35 pm
I was genuinely shocked when I heard the news. He was one of my favorite players in the league and was a class act. I feel terrible for the children that he left behind.

RIP Junior!!!!!


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: el diablo on May 02, 2012, 05:42:47 pm
Unbelievable. Truly one of the best football players in my lifetime. RIP, Junior.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Landshark on May 02, 2012, 07:29:59 pm
Apparently left a note saying that he shot himself in the chest because he wants his brain studied.

If that is the case and its found out he was suffering from dementia, then you can expect sweeping changes across the NFL and a major crackdown on violent hits.

The guy was never on an injury report while in San Diego but hit very hard.  I think dementia is exactly what happened.

My prayers go out to his family


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: MikeO on May 02, 2012, 09:04:50 pm
If that is the case and its found out he was suffering from dementia, then you can expect sweeping changes across the NFL and a major crackdown on violent hits.

The guy was never on an injury report while in San Diego but hit very hard.  I think dementia is exactly what happened.

My prayers go out to his family

He once did drive his car off a 50 ft cliff like 2 years ago after he was accused of domestic violence. That's not normal behavior. Either is taking one's life. I think Seau was a "troubled" person and this might not be concussion or head trauma related when the story does finally come out.

It's a sad story either way but I am not so sure this is a "head injury" case. Guess we just have to wait and see.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: mecadonzilla on May 03, 2012, 12:58:06 am
I'm very sorry to hear about Junior's passing and I wish his family and friends nothing but the best possible condolences.

However, http://deadspin.com/5867720/death-is-stalking-the-1994-chargers
I had no idea any of these guys were dead.  I wonder how many other Super Bowl squads in recent memory incurred this number of untimely deaths.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: EKnight on May 03, 2012, 08:16:30 am
^^That's morbid. Where do you even find something like this? -EK


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: mecadonzilla on May 03, 2012, 02:22:49 pm
^^That's morbid. Where do you even find something like this? -EK

Just ran across the Deadspin article whilst perusing the internet and thought it was interesting.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Garrett on May 03, 2012, 02:58:18 pm
I hate to sound like a dick, because I really admired Jr, and he seemed to be a great citizen. But... I've personally had 2 very close people in my life commit suicide. I feel it's the most selfish act any person can commit. "I'm sad, boo hoo!" Just seeing how distraught his mother was, should have been a deterent, but this guy has kids as well. He might as well said fuck you too everyone. Now his kids won't have a father figure, or go on a trip with dad, or someone to turn to. They will carry a knife in their heart for years. If you're homeless loser with no family, great. Go drown in the lake. But he damn well knew the pain he would cause, and didn't care. Fuck you Seau!!


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: dolfan13 on May 03, 2012, 04:06:19 pm
the folks at bu are doing some very interesting work on this topic.

they have published reports based on some studies (in particular the penn football player that committed suicide), that cte is not just based on having multiple concussions. in fact, thousands of subconcussive collisions in aggregate can be an issue with respect to cte as well.

head trauma is not just a concussion issue, and it's the dirty little secret the nfl wants to sweep under the rug.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Dave Gray on May 03, 2012, 04:11:54 pm
Suicide is not that simple.  Depression is mental illness.

It was so sad to see his family.  Having had to go through that with someone I knew, I sympathize.  It's hard to understand, when coming from a healthy brain.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: bsmooth on May 03, 2012, 04:36:00 pm
BU has requested his brain.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Spider-Dan on May 03, 2012, 04:40:40 pm
BU has requested his brain.
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/024/c/7/zombie_by_uncherished.jpg)

I'm sure they'll take all the brains they can get.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Frimp on May 05, 2012, 01:13:17 am
I hate to sound like a dick, because I really admired Jr, and he seemed to be a great citizen. But... I've personally had 2 very close people in my life commit suicide. I feel it's the most selfish act any person can commit. "I'm sad, boo hoo!" Just seeing how distraught his mother was, should have been a deterent, but this guy has kids as well. He might as well said fuck you too everyone. Now his kids won't have a father figure, or go on a trip with dad, or someone to turn to. They will carry a knife in their heart for years. If you're homeless loser with no family, great. Go drown in the lake. But he damn well knew the pain he would cause, and didn't care. Fuck you Seau!!

You read my mind. I feel the exact same way about suicide.


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: MikeO on May 12, 2012, 10:36:40 pm
Reports/Rumors coming out that Junior Seau might have killed himself over money issues that led to his depression. He bought a house in 2005 for $3.2 mill. And its value went down very fast. And 1 hour after his house sold at auction for only $1.3 mill Junior killed himself. Many think this was the straw that broke the camels back. Still doesn't explain why he shot himself in the chest and not the head, but this info some think was the back breaking news that pushed him over the edge. We will see, or maybe we will never know. But that's the word beginning to go around.

Here is the details on Junior's house
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/604-S-The-Strand-Oceanside-CA-92054/16582821_zpid/


Title: Re: Junior Seau Dead
Post by: Landshark on May 12, 2012, 10:49:52 pm
Reports/Rumors coming out that Junior Seau might have killed himself over money issues that led to his depression. He bought a house in 2005 for $3.2 mill. And its value went down very fast. And 1 hour after his house sold at auction for only $1.3 mill Junior killed himself. Many think this was the straw that broke the camels back. Still doesn't explain why he shot himself in the chest and not the head, but this info some think was the back breaking news that pushed him over the edge. We will see, or maybe we will never know. But that's the word beginning to go around.

Here is the details on Junior's house
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/604-S-The-Strand-Oceanside-CA-92054/16582821_zpid/

Sorta like the Wall Street Crash of 1929 effect