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This guy is 33 years old, and has 30 kids from 11 different women.  He fathered four children in the same year, not once, but twice.  He works a minimum wage job, and by law, they can only garnish half his wages, so these women get as little as $1.49 per month in child support.  And now he's asking for a break in child support payments.

Can't the judge order him to attend school or job training to better himself so he can make more money to support his kids?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/18/desmond-hatchett-30-kids_n_1528850.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D162381

Dude, its a little late for that.

Cromartie now has a role model. 

Castrate him and have him shut up.

The theory of natural selection says the aforementioned gentleman has extremely desirable genes.

In other words:

(http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120208/640/epic_haters_gonna_hate_memes_640_11.jpg)

Only by the lucky 11 with low self-esteems. If that makes me a hater,

Then I shall hate on. Holla!

Leave it to Spider to condone this type of behavior. I really hope you're joking........

BTW, what the hell is a hater anyhow ? Someone that disagrees with someone or has an opinion of their own ?

Generally speaking, a "hater" is someone that is jealous of, or tries to obstruct, the success of others.

My more serious evaluation of this scenario is that the women stupid enough to have unprotected, contraception-free sex with a man that already has double-digit children have earned their fate.  I find this case to be an interesting data point in restricting the availability of government-funded abortions.

I guarantee he'll have more.

A year from now it'll be 38 children by 13 different women.

And the government and welfare programs will be responsible for supporting all of them.

I agree with the mandatory castration.  Choppy chop now, please.

I'll meet him halfway and make it a mandatory vasectomy.

Mandatory Sterilization.  There should be a law that you get one free pass for having a baby.  After your first (whether you are the father or the mother), you have to prove that you have the financial resources to support more than one child without the need for the government (you and I) to pay for your kid.  If you can't prove that you can afford more than one, while you are in the hospital having the first one, you get "fixed" so you can't have anymore.  I can hear the bleeding hearts already.  But I'm tired of working to make a good living, only to have a percentage of it go to supporting losers.

It takes 12 to tango.  Why would anyone bang this guy?

This is ridiculous.

What happens if you can't afford a kid now because let's say you got laid off and you're unemployed.  But in 3 months you get a job making 6-figure salary, and you've already been sterilized by the government?

Situations change, and punishing everyone cause some assholes are irresponsible is unethical.

Dolphster, while I assume you are probably making a correct assumption, I just want to point out that no one has made mention of the financial statuses of the mothers. No one has said tax payer money is going to any of these children. The father cannot afford his payments, but no one said the mothers collect welfare or any type government of assistance.

The sterilization talk is hilarious.  So if I'm Travis Henry or Antonio Cromartie (i.e. rich) and I have a dozen kids, it's "play on, playa," but if I'm poor, it's a government-mandated vasectomy for me?  Tell me, what is the exact threshold of cost-to-the-government where the state is justified in stepping in and forcing me to undergo surgery to stop the fiscal bleeding?

Given that the total cost to the government for this guy's 30 kids is, at most, in the 8 digit range, what kind of punishment can we expect to see meted out to the banksters that looted taxpayers for trillions?  Oh wait, they're rich, so it's OK.

Women have all the power.  They choose not to use it properly.  Then, you have idiots like this running around with 30 kids.

Uhm. Ok.

What I mean by that is that if women demanded men to be nice, respectful, and have their shit together, guys would do it.  Instead, so many of you are lining up to bang total friggin' idiots who treat you like shit.  And you do it over and over and over.

I would almost guarantee you that he targets very specific women. Could he pull that shit on a woman that's got her shit together?  No. Could he pull that on a 17 year old or a woman with low self-esteem and daddy issues? You better believe it. Further, many men know exactly what to look for.

There are many, many women without power.

I wouldn't touch this guy with a 10 foot pole. However, I likely have FAR more options than the women that he pursues. (Unless they just wanted a sperm donor. In which case, carry on.)

Typical B.S.. Every time I have seen this posted, women are lambasting this guy. This post explains why this happens. These poor women are victims and it is all the bad man's fault. It takes two to tango, and they kept taking him back time and time again...even though they had already had kids with him and he could not pay. But yeah it is only the guys fault.

Uhm...I did not say that. I just pointed out that women don't always have all of this alleged power.

I will say that when it comes to pregnancy, women have about 90% of the power.

Both men and women have the option to be abstinent, or to use protection.  But beyond that, women have many, many available options for birth control beforehand (pill, shot, IUD, etc), as well as after-the-fact options like Plan B, abortion, or adoption.  All of which can be done pretty much unilaterally.

I can tell you that if there were a male equivalent of the pill or the shot, unwanted pregnancy rates would fall through the floor (STD rates would probably increase, but whatevs).  IMHO, most women that get pregnant do so with a fairly high amount of intent (if not direct, then indirect).

I am of the opinion that child birth should be limited to a set number of children per female. We have a limited amount of resources and overpopulation will become an issue eventually. This would also limit the exploitation of the free handout system, ummm I mean welfare system.......

I would NEVER trust a man that said he was on the pill. Period.

You should go move to China.

aside - do they still do this in China?

Why on earth would I move to China ?

China has regulations about childbirth.

Long ago (not sure if they still do) the Chinese government mandated no more than 2 children per household due to overpopulation.

Maybe its a myth though...?

I knew that or at least have heard that before. Don't know if it's true or not though. That still has nothing to do with me moving there.

We have a lot in common. I don't trust a woman saying that either.

You're half right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

The one-child policy is the one-child limitation in the population control policy of the People's Republic of China (PRC). The Chinese government refers to it under the official translation of family planning policy. It officially restricts married, urban couples to having only one child, while allowing exemptions for several cases, including rural couples, ethnic minorities, and parents without any siblings themselves. A spokesperson of the Committee on the One-Child Policy has said that approximately 35.9% of China's population is currently subject to the one-child restriction. The Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau are completely exempt from the policy. Also exempt from this law are foreigners living in China.

This policy was introduced in 1978 and initially applied to first-born children in the year of 1979. It was created by the Chinese government to alleviate social, economic, and environmental problems in China, and authorities claim that the policy has prevented between 250 and 300 million births from its implementation until 2000, and 400 million births from 1979 to 2011. The policy is controversial both within and outside China because of the manner in which the policy has been implemented, and because of concerns about negative social consequences. The policy has been implicated in an increase in forced abortions, female infanticide, and underreporting of female births, and has been suggested as a possible cause behind China's gender imbalance. Nonetheless, a 2008 survey undertaken by the Pew Research Center reported that 76% of the Chinese population supports the policy.

The "one-child policy" has resulted in the phenomenon of "little emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Emperor_Syndrome)"; children who are not only the sole child of their parents, but the sole grandchild of both of their (sets of) grandparents.  As you might imagine, this can result in children who are a bit spoiled.

The women in question are fully aware that no such pill exists, and yet still have unprotected, contraception-free sex with men.

So I don't think you are really the target audience for such a product.

It does in the sense that when certain people wax poetic about the joys of small government, it is relevant to mention that there is a nation with extremely small government (Somalia) readily available for emigration.

Though I will say that in general, I'm not a fan of the "go move there, then!" argument; there is substantial value in trying to change your home country to suit your desires.

One other question, though:

Would this apply to everyone, or just the poor?

Actually, the same could be said about people that want government health care. There are many countries that offer that.

Everyone as far as I'm concerned !!!

And then you went on to say how you felt he specifically targeted these women based on some sort of psychology.

Why all the blame to him?  Weren't the mothers of his kids consenting adults?

And is this story true?  Remember the dentist story?

This story is true, son.  I remember reading about this guy in another media outlet. 

And then said that the women might have gotten pregnant on purpose. ;)

I believe the dentist story was on multiple sites as well. That is the problem now, no journalists (or should I say very few) do any leg work. Once one story hits the wire they all jump on it without doing any verification. They are scared they may be too late if they actually try to take the time to verify something.

^ This is true.

Side story:  A girl came into work today telling me about a friend she had to go take care of last night.  Her boyfriend whipped her ass, physically, and then left.  She was upset that he left.  ...refused to report it.

Woman need to demand more.  They will get it.

This is a perfect example of what you alluded to earlier.  That friend of your co worker doesn't have the guts to stand up for herself and have this woman beating punk thrown in jail.

I don't think it's a matter of guts.  Physical abuse screws you up and makes you not think clearly.  Still, at some point, you have to believe in yourself and have enough confidence to put scumbags behind bars and out of your life.

I'm not even interested in the psychological manipulation angle; men are manipulated by women, as well... just in different ways.  I don't believe that "women have all the power" in a relationship... that depends greatly on the particular relationship.  I daresay that any woman dating Derek Jeter or George Clooney has an absurdly small amount of power.

I'm talking strictly about women choosing to bear the child of a man who already has dozens of children.  These women know that he will be completely unable to support this child, and yet make a long chain of choices (no birth control, no abstinence, no condom, no Plan B, no abortion, no adoption) that lead to them being stuck with yet another "fatherless" child.  In this particular area, they do have all the power... and they choose not to exercise it.

While I cannot argue that all of them didn't know his history I can bet a few had no clue.

Maybe they did know that and don't care. We have no idea how these children are being raised. All we do know is that he can't afford to pay child support. For all we know these women are working and raising their children just like everybody else.

With that said -  birth control, abortion and plan B are NOT accessible or affordable to everyone.

As an aside, I think Clooney (and a few others) intentionally dates powerless women. He rarely dates women that are on the same level as him. Unless of course, the rumors are true and they are all beards.

He has 30 children by 11 women.  Based on simple math, there are quite a few repeat offenders in that bunch.

Pretty good reason why I cannot argue all of them didn't know. I still say a few likely had no idea.

It's a little disconcerting to me that some of you are proponents of castration as a means of punishment, but have a problem with a law that would prohibit texting while walking in public. Seems to me the reason is because you figure the first law wouldn't effect you personally while the 2nd law probably would. Is that really the best way to judge it's validity? Especially when you consider that if the law to prohibit texting while walking were to go national, it would probably raise more revenue for the country than the other law would save.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

I think that your opinion would make sense from a female perspective.  Men are much more comfortable "dating down" than women are, so to a woman, I would imagine that the concept of dating someone less powerful than you would seem suspect.

As a man, I think that what Clooney does is perfectly reasonable.  If he can date smoking hot women than actually appreciate being with George Clooney (as opposed to dating another star who thinks he's not that big of a deal), why wouldn't he?  He's living the dream.

Because any guy who can have no-strings-attached sex with dozens of incredibly hot women must be gay.

commenting on what's been mentioned,thinking out loud....

From my hermit perspective,and falling to sleep with TMZ on in the background at night...I see George Clooney's globe trotting lifestyle much more attractive to younger women.I'm not his traveling secretary by any means,but it seems like he's rarely in any one spot for very long.I'd imagine he has a place in California,New
York,and I've heard it mentioned about he has a villa in Italy.

I feel women closer to his age,probably get tired of not staying in one place for very long...

I think he might travel more than most celebrities,and likes the lifestyle of it..

I'm not sure what to think about the guy in the story...

As someone who prefers no-strings-attached sex, I have no opinion on this. Just repeating what the tabloids are saying.