Title: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: EKnight on May 26, 2012, 05:02:08 pm This is the second time Dansby has said something assanine to the media. After proclaiming himself the best linebacker in the NFL last season (laughable) he has now stated the following: ""As a team, I'm expecting us to win the AFC, period. Point blank." Not a wild card; not even the division; the whole AFC and going to the Super Bowl. Meanwhile, Vegas thinks they'll be lucky to win more than 7 games. If Ross or Marshall says something insane like this, they're crucified- and so should Dansby be. Shut up and play. Win more than 6 or seven games, make a Pro Bowl in Miami and maybe you can tell everyone how great you are. Otherwise, it's freaking idiotic. -EK
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: Doc-phin on May 26, 2012, 05:26:17 pm Year after year it seems we have to clarify these type comments. The guy has high expectations; that is all he is trying to say. He believes in his team and his coaches; there is nothing wrong with that.
I am aware of the article this is in and when I read it I wasn't bothered by it one bit. I think it was with the Sun Sentinel. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: EKnight on May 26, 2012, 06:01:12 pm They're not high- they're unrealistic. Best LB in the league? Super Bowl bound? Why does Dansby get a free pass? Would TO? Ochocinco? I used to have coach who would tell us, "Don't tell me about the labor pains, show me the baby!" Same applies here. -EK
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: MikeO on May 26, 2012, 06:09:07 pm Year after year it seems we have to clarify these type comments. The guy has high expectations; that is all he is trying to say. He believes in his team and his coaches; there is nothing wrong with that. I am aware of the article this is in and when I read it I wasn't bothered by it one bit. I think it was with the Sun Sentinel. I agree Doc, it isn't a big deal. What do you want Dansby to say? My team sucks and I expect to come in last place. LOL He didn't go all Joe Namath and "guarantee" it or predict it. He says he expects it from his team. Not a big deal at all. I wish we had more players with his attitude frankly. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: EKnight on May 26, 2012, 06:21:28 pm What do you want Dansby to say? NOTHING. I want him to PLAY at the level he thinks he's at and stop telling everyone how good he is or how good the team is. When Ross said the team was SuperBowl bound or that Henne would be the next Marino, he was just massacred by the lunacy of these statements. I don't get how Dansby gets a free pass when he says similar things. It's arguable that he's even the best linebacker on his own team- he didn't impress me that much more than Burnett. But he's supposed to be better than every other LB in football? And going to the Super Bowl? Really? When your team won 6 games last year and are projected to win 7.5 this year? All I'm asking for is some consistancy- the same people who said Ross should shut up now believe it's great that Dansby is saying the same stuff? How's that work? -EK Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: MikeO on May 26, 2012, 06:35:29 pm As I team, I'm expecting us to win the AFC, period. Point blank," Dansby told the Sun Sentinel at the team's FinsWeekend Fishing Tournament last weekend. "We've got the talent. We have the coaching. We've just got to put it all together. It's going to come down to us as players going out and excelling and making sure we do everything we possibly can to win every game.
"It's going to be a challenge, no doubt. But that's what you live for. You live for opportunities to have those challenges and we've got the opportunity of a lifetime here in Miami and we've got to take full advantage of it." If the NFL season was to start tomorrow, Dansby would be ready. "Physically and mentally I'm there," he said. "I'm sharp right now, man. I'm on point, I'm focused. I just can't wait. I just can't wait for the opportunity that I'm going to have this season." Such a wild quote to give in MAY ::) Give me a break. There is a reason why this story didn't make headlines.....because its a non-story and a nothing quote/comment he gave Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: Landshark on May 26, 2012, 07:15:10 pm He could be trying to pump his team up for OTA's. It's May and hard to concentrate when training camp is a little ways away.
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: mecadonzilla on May 26, 2012, 08:47:14 pm Yeah, all he said is what I want to hear from any Dolphin player. Good on 'em.
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: Thundergod on May 26, 2012, 11:21:28 pm Replace Dansby with Rex Ryan (Oh wait that's happened) or anyone else despised by the massess and he's an idiot. EKnight is right.
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: MikeO on May 27, 2012, 12:51:27 am Replace Dansby with Rex Ryan (Oh wait that's happened) or anyone else despised by the massess and he's an idiot. Did you read the whole quote? Instead of just the part of one sentence taken out of context? "It's going to be a challenge, no doubt. But that's what you live for. You live for opportunities to have those challenges and we've got the opportunity of a lifetime here in Miami and we've got to take full advantage of it." "We've got the talent. We have the coaching. We've just got to put it all together. It's going to come down to us as players going out and excelling and making sure we do everything we possibly can to win every game. Nothing like Rex Ryan, Brandon Marshall, or Stephen Ross or anyone else who says stupid stuff. Because what Dansby said wasn't stupid!!!! Not even close! When Ross speaks he is an owner and is talking about stuff he doesn't know (like saying Chad Henne is the next Marino, every new coach is the next Shula, and saying Matt Moore is our starting QB when the head coach he just hired is telling people its an open competition)....Ross is speaking out of his ass about stuff he has no clue about and acting like a jackass trying to hire a head coach when he has a head coach. That's why he has no respect and is ripped in the media! Rex Ryan just predicts and guarantees championships every year and then comes up short and looks like a fool. He is the boy who cried wolf and lets his fat mouth write checks his ass can't cash. Brandon Marshall badmouths his coaches (like he did in the Sporting News interview last year) and throws his QB's/Teammates under the bus in the press at all times including LIVE TV like at the Pro Bowl, and punches teammates in the lockerroom and shows up to practice in pajama pants and disrupts practices (as he did in Denver) and is always getting arrested for domestic violence among other things................all of those things aren't on anywhere near the level of Karlos Dansby saying words to the effect of ...."I think it will be a challenge but we have a good team in Miami and can win the AFC if we pull it all together." There is a reason unlike Ross, Rex, and Marshall THIS QUOTE BY DANSBY has gotten no headlines anywhere (not even in Miami) and made no news. Because its non-news! There are players on the Colts, Rams, and 30 other teams saying the exact same thing right now. It's just "player speak." Dansby didn't badmouth anyone on his team or another team. He didn't "guarantee" or "predict" anything. He esentially said he expects the team he plays for to do well this year and win because they have good players and coaching and they got to put it all together. It will be a challenge but they are up for it. DAMN HIM! He is the devil ::) How dare he say nice things about his coaches and players and that his team has the opportunity to win ::) Give me a break with this "FAKE OUTRAGE" over a nothing quote. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: tubba marxxx on May 27, 2012, 01:01:13 am Wow, it really must be May..this is such a non story.
My suggestion, check out the "other sports" thread. Maybe follow another sport, this way you don't shoot your load over every completely erroneous "football" story that comes out prior to August. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: BigDaddyFin on May 27, 2012, 03:10:03 am I don't see what the big deal is either. If I'm a player, and the season hasn't started yet, I'm thinking Superbowl. It's always THE goal.
A star player on one of the better defenses in football should have this attitude. I hope it spreads to the rest of the team. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: Fins4ever on May 27, 2012, 12:34:29 pm I am glad to hear Mr. Dansby is so optimistic, but prefer those comments be made in the locker room without the media. Personally, I am waiting to see how Philbin handles his players in talking to the mdia. My philosophy is the less the better.
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: EKnight on May 27, 2012, 02:56:38 pm I don't see what the big deal is either. If I'm a player, and the season hasn't started yet, I'm thinking Superbowl. It's always THE goal. A star player on one of the better defenses in football should have this attitude. I hope it spreads to the rest of the team. Thinking it is one thing but making a prediction when you won 6 games the previous year is another. I just don't get the love for Miami's D- what you call one of the better defenses. They were middle of the pack at best. Yeah they ranked 3rd in run D, but who cares? It's a passing league. They can stop something that no one does? Big deal. Against the pass they were 25th. And they may have been 6th in points allowed, but they were in the bottom 5 in points allowed in the fourth quarter. That's not a defense that needs its players predicting SuperBowl. It's a defense that needs its players working hard and not saying anything. How would you feel if Moore had said he was the best QB in the entire NFL last year the way Dansby spoke of himself, and predicted SuperBowl this year? I mean, honestly, Dansby is a nice player- but he's not NEARLY as good as he thinks he is. Eight years in the league and he's had a total of 3 seasons over 100 tackles. His sack production has been nearly non-existant for five years. He thinks he's the best LB in football though? -EK Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: Spider-Dan on May 27, 2012, 03:10:16 pm Dansby is a player and should be expected to have an unrealistically inflated perception of how good he and his teammates are. If anything, I'm somewhat surprised that Dansby apparently expects to get to the Super Bowl and lose.
Rex Ryan and Stephen Ross are not players, and cannot score a touchdown or catch an interception. They should keep their mouths shut. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: BigDaddyFin on May 27, 2012, 06:10:33 pm Thinking it is one thing but making a prediction when you won 6 games the previous year is another. I just don't get the love for Miami's D- what you call one of the better defenses. They were middle of the pack at best. Yeah they ranked 3rd in run D, but who cares? It's a passing league. They can stop something that no one does? Big deal. Against the pass they were 25th. And they may have been 6th in points allowed, but they were in the bottom 5 in points allowed in the fourth quarter. That's not a defense that needs its players predicting SuperBowl. It's a defense that needs its players working hard and not saying anything. And that actually makes my point. Points allowed is really the only statistic defensively that ends up mattering. The Patriots ended up in the Superbowl and had the worst defense in football. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: MikeO on May 27, 2012, 08:10:31 pm And that actually makes my point. Points allowed is really the only statistic defensively that ends up mattering. The Patriots ended up in the Superbowl and had the worst defense in football. Yep! And the Fins had the 6th best defense in points allowed in the entire league.And for the record Dansby didn't "predict" anything. Saying they have the players and coaches and if everything comes together they can win the AFC isn't "predicting" anything. Saying he expects to win, jesus christ why play the games if you don't "expect to win"?! Once again reading way too much into things and twisting words and taking things way out of context. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: el diablo on May 27, 2012, 08:22:40 pm Who cares. At least someone on the team has a positive outlook.
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: EKnight on May 27, 2012, 08:22:54 pm And that actually makes my point. Points allowed is really the only statistic defensively that ends up mattering. The Patriots ended up in the Superbowl and had the worst defense in football. Um no... If you're going to say "only" one statistic matters is wins- of which Miami had 6. Mike no one took anything out of context. "As a team I'm expecting us to win the AFC period. Point blank." How is that NOT a prediction?? If Marshall had said this you'd be making big time shit about it. Don't even backpedal from that. I know Dansby's your boy, and you've been carrying the jocks for the overrated D all year, but take off those glasses that only allow hate for the offense and be real- Dansby hasn't don't jack since he got to Miami to say he's the best LB in football or to say he expects a Superbowl spot. You keep asking what I expect him to say, but I've already told you: NOTHING. No one else one a 6-10 team is talking SuperBowl to the media. The guy needs to shut up and start earning that big contract he got, rather than disappearing in the fourth quarter all year. -EK Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: tubba marxxx on May 27, 2012, 09:18:48 pm Um no... If you're going to say "only" one statistic matters is wins- of which Miami had 6. Mike no one took anything out of context. "As a team I'm expecting us to win the AFC period. Point blank." How is that NOT a prediction?? If Marshall had said this you'd be making big time shit about it. Don't even backpedal from that. I know Dansby's your boy, and you've been carrying the jocks for the overrated D all year, but take off those glasses that only allow hate for the offense and be real- Dansby hasn't don't jack since he got to Miami to say he's the best LB in football or to say he expects a Superbowl spot. You keep asking what I expect him to say, but I've already told you: NOTHING. No one else one a 6-10 team is talking SuperBowl to the media. The guy needs to shut up and start earning that big contract he got, rather than disappearing in the fourth quarter all year. -EK Dude, I get your "keep your mouth shut and play" mentality..but this is SUCH a non story. It WASN'T a prediction at all. I prediction would be what Brandon Marshall said last year about the Dolphins and 49ers playing in the Super Bowl. All Dansby did was say what everyone else is thinking each and every season this is stupid all this is, is a shot to make fun of (yet again) the Dolphins. Because Miami isn't expected to do anything, this story gets published to keep the LOLphins image alive and well. If Jerrod Mayo comes out and says the same thing..it doesn't get published. Because New England is EXPECTED to win the AFC. Same thing if James Harrison, Ray Lewis, or any other player on a contending team said this. Look, the fact remains that every player should have this mentality..if you don't then get out of the league Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: MikeO on May 28, 2012, 06:01:25 am Dude, I get your "keep your mouth shut and play" mentality..but this is SUCH a non story. It WASN'T a prediction at all. I prediction would be what Brandon Marshall said last year about the Dolphins and 49ers playing in the Super Bowl. All Dansby did was say what everyone else is thinking each and every season this is stupid all this is, is a shot to make fun of (yet again) the Dolphins. Because Miami isn't expected to do anything, this story gets published to keep the LOLphins image alive and well. If Jerrod Mayo comes out and says the same thing..it doesn't get published. Because New England is EXPECTED to win the AFC. Same thing if James Harrison, Ray Lewis, or any other player on a contending team said this. Look, the fact remains that every player should have this mentality..if you don't then get out of the league BRAVO!! Well said! Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: EKnight on May 28, 2012, 06:33:38 am "I'm expecting us to win," is NOT a prediction? That's the very definition of prediction. I just don't get the bias here. THIS is a non-story, but Marshall- who doesn't even play here anymore- saying something about Miami's QB situation somehow IS a story and is important enough that the Marshall haters here can start a thread about that? Consistency??? -EK
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: el diablo on May 28, 2012, 09:42:01 am Simply put. "I'm expecting us to win" is a goal. Not a guarantee. I expect to be retired by age 65, is a goal. I'm going to be retired, is an expectation. I will be, is a guarantee. An expectation does not, a guarantee make.
Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: MikeO on May 28, 2012, 10:22:40 am Simply put. "I'm expecting us to win" is a goal. Not a guarantee. I expect to be retired by age 65, is a goal. I'm going to be retired, is an expectation. I will be, is a guarantee. An expectation does not, a guarantee make. very well put Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: Cathal on May 28, 2012, 11:55:33 am Replace Dansby with Rex Ryan (Oh wait that's happened) or anyone else despised by the massess and he's an idiot. EKnight is right. I think that's because Rex has said pretty stupid things that never came out. Didn't he guarantee that the Jets would win a super bowl? In any case, I'm happy with his optimism, and while I would rather him not say anything, it's a non-story. Title: Re: Dansby is an idiot! Post by: masterfins on May 28, 2012, 02:28:49 pm Gotta agree with MikeO. Positive comments from a player @ what? a fishing derby? It's not like the guy is going around town bragging to everybody. If this was during week 2 or 3 of the season and he was playing like crap it MIGHT mean something. As it is, the story in its full context is something you would expect to hear from 75% of the NFL players. Much ado about nothing.
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