Title: Wr's? Post by: miamid45 on September 11, 2012, 06:58:39 pm Couldn't help but notice all the wideout retreads on the Chargers.....Royal, Meacham and company....all we got was Armstrong?
Big miss by Ireland IMO! Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 11, 2012, 07:40:52 pm 7-11 Was Cut today from the practice squad
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: tubba marxxx on September 11, 2012, 07:42:06 pm Jeff Ireland is a moron..plain and simple
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: bsfins on September 11, 2012, 07:53:18 pm Royal,and Meecham were both signed in mid March before the draft.
Parrish Signed April 3rd,released in August,and Spurlock were signed in April 5th... Armstrong was a final cut in August...Apples and oranges.... Now Signing Naanee April 17th...that was a mistake IMO... Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: tubba marxxx on September 11, 2012, 08:01:55 pm Royal,and Meecham were both signed in mid March before the draft. which is when Marshall was traded..Marshall was a headache, but way to go Ireland for not having a legitimate back up plan in mind Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: el diablo on September 11, 2012, 10:45:56 pm Seeing a pattern yet?
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: Brian Fein on September 12, 2012, 07:49:41 am "wow, Peyton manning played great on Sunday. Way to go Ireland. You suck"
It's a two way street. Guys have to want to come here. And until there is consistency in leadership, no one will. Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: Landshark on September 12, 2012, 08:01:07 am "wow, Peyton manning played great on Sunday. Way to go Ireland. You suck" It's a two way street. Guys have to want to come here. And until there is consistency in leadership, no one will. http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=19872.0 Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 12, 2012, 06:14:27 pm There is no quick fix at WR this year. They could go sign Branch, Gaffney, Plax, or Lee Evans tomorrow and not much will change. The situation is what it is for this year.
Next year with between $40-60 mill in salary cap space and free agents like Bowe, Jennings, Wallace...Miami should be able to make a move to land at least 1. Long ways away but nobody Miami brings in now will fix anything. With Jennings hurt the chances of trading for James Jones just went away as well probably Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: mecadonzilla on September 12, 2012, 06:42:57 pm Branch, Gaffney, and Plax are all better than anything we have right now. It would help the rookie QB a lot to give him somebody to throw to. No one's going to have to max out the bank for one of these guys, and I'd bet they'd all be willing to sign a one year deal.
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 12, 2012, 06:48:47 pm Branch, Gaffney, and Plax are all better than anything we have right now. It would help the rookie QB a lot to give him somebody to throw to. No one's going to have to max out the bank for one of these guys, and I'd bet they'd all be willing to sign a one year deal. I agree with all of. But I would be surprised if it happens. This is a rebuilding year and they would be better off just playing Fuller and Matthews and calling them up from the practice squad in a few weeks or midway through the season. They do want Gaffney but he isn't healthy yet. They want nothing to do with Plax. And Branch only wants to play for NE. I know its early to be giving up on the playoffs and all, but it makes no sense to do a "win now" move (signing Branch and Plax is just that) when the team isn't in "win now" mode. If this team by some minor miracle is like 3-2 after 5 games or something then I could see them doing something like that. But if its a rough start to the season it makes little sense to bring a vet WR on board. Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: mecadonzilla on September 12, 2012, 06:58:40 pm I just don't think it helps a young QB develop by not having anyone he can throw to. I totally agree they've given up on this year, but at some point, they need to give RT someone he can work with or it could be a truly wasted year with hardly any development. IMO not having any receivers in St. Louis has really hindered Sam Bradford (that and the constant running for his life.)
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 12, 2012, 07:36:05 pm I just don't think it helps a young QB develop by not having anyone he can throw to. I totally agree they've given up on this year, but at some point, they need to give RT someone he can work with or it could be a truly wasted year with hardly any development. IMO not having any receivers in St. Louis has really hindered Sam Bradford (that and the constant running for his life.) Great example and I agree. But Ireland should have planned this out in the spring. Doing it "in-season" is almost worthless. IF they signed a guy tonight by the time they get him up to speed with the playbook and in rhythm with Tanny at this point it will be October. And if its a 1-4 or 2-5 type start the season is all but lost. We all knew this was a rebuilding year and playing Tanny means he would take his lumps. He didn't have an AJ Green like Dalton did or a Steve Smith like Cam did. Or even a Reggie Wayne like Luck has. This was more of a season like Aikman had when he came into the league where he had little help. Let the kid take his lumps, let him make his mistakes and work through them. It isn't like if they play Matt Moore its Playoffs here we come and NFL offensive records will start falling left and right. I do think Gaffney could be signed if he gets healthy but that would be the only move I could see. Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: Diehard_Dolfan on September 13, 2012, 07:11:43 am Next year with between $40-60 mill in salary cap space and free agents like Bowe, Jennings, Wallace...Miami should be able to make a move to land at least 1. Long ways away but nobody Miami brings in now will fix anything. I heard the samething stated Tuesday night on Wqam and that sounds great... they mentioned the draft picks also. They said with the cap space Miami will have and the draft picks they've amassed the Dolphins will be in place to make a move like the Heat did with the big 3. My question is this... what have we seen from Jeff Ireland's past that would even suggest he's going to do something like that? I just don't see it myself... I look at players like TY Hilton that we passed up on and others and I don't see him making any great moves at all... I hope I'm wrong! Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: Landshark on September 13, 2012, 08:06:27 am 2012 was one of the deepest wide receiver draft classes in years, and Fireland did very little with it to address the receiver position.
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: Brian Fein on September 13, 2012, 10:11:18 am ... Fireland ... Calling Jeff Ireland "Fireland" is stupid. Please stop. Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: Landshark on September 13, 2012, 11:35:07 am Calling Jeff Ireland "Fireland" is stupid. Please stop. Hell no. This numbskull has earned that reputation. Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: Brian Fein on September 13, 2012, 01:24:43 pm Its not a reputation, its a meager attempt at humor on your part, and quite obnoxious.
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 13, 2012, 05:17:10 pm 2012 was one of the deepest wide receiver draft classes in years, and Fireland did very little with it to address the receiver position. He has the parcells logic of building inside-out. That is outdated though in today's NFL Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: miamid45 on September 13, 2012, 10:38:46 pm Maybe sour grapes....BUT still nice to see an overrated Marshall dropping TD passes. Elite WRs catch those passes...time and time again, this guy proves he's not at that level!
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 13, 2012, 11:20:20 pm Maybe sour grapes....BUT still nice to see an overrated Marshall dropping TD passes. Elite WRs catch those passes...time and time again, this guy proves he's not at that level! Brandon Marshall still sucks! Elite WR's don't have stat lines of 0 receptions for 0 yards with 1 dropped TD pass. Still a few min left though maybe he will find a way into the box score. UPDATE: Marshall has a catch tonight. 10 yards. He found his way into the box score in garbage time! lol lol lol Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: miamid45 on September 13, 2012, 11:40:19 pm James Jones also a brutal game....Rodgers gave him an earful after that terrible route resulting in INT.
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: Alwaysdullfan on September 14, 2012, 01:29:15 am like someone mentioned earlier, there r some decent free agent WRs out there, if Miami is smart they should go for one of them. I know it wont change much, but a veteran receiver will help the rookie QB and def help all the young WRs we have on the team now. So why not Mr. Ireland?!? Come on...first of all I dunno why trade B.Marshall after he had a 1000+ season, and Bush 1000+ also, first time that happened in a long time! It was stupid to get rid off ur best playmaker on offense especially when you didnt even replace him! I couldnt believe that. I kno Ochocinco isnt Marshall but he's better than anyone else we got on WR, and they still cut him. I would of just kept him, he knew he had a bad season in NE thats why Im sure he would play really hard for Miami, and would of been big help, esp for rookie QB and all these young wideouts. I dont understand the move at all!!!! Miami basically is sayin we're gonna forfeit this season and hope to get a top 3 college player next draft, which is BS....Miami has a tough enough problem to sell game tickets and getting rid of Marshall/Ocho just made it much worse. Way to go Miami!!! woohoo
Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: tubba marxxx on September 14, 2012, 01:40:06 am James Jones also a brutal game....Rodgers gave him an earful after that terrible route resulting in INT. James Jones is useless Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: jimmythefinger on September 14, 2012, 08:30:48 am Ireland is terrible. They dumped Brandon Marshall for a six-pack. It wasn't even cold. You don't want his diva problems, that's okay. But you still have to replace the talent. They traded Marshall the day before Free Agency began and Fins Fans marched on Dolphin HQ like peasants in horror movies with torches and pitchforks. Ireland's on TV, dumbfounded, says: "We're only halfway through the player acquisition phase." Translation -- "we can screw this up twice as bad." What did he do? When Vincent Jackson signed with Tampa the Chargers picked up the phone, called Robert Meachem, who was in Buffalo, and made a deal with him. The Fins went through Free Agency and the Draft, did jack at WR. Signed Legedu Naanae, drafted B.J. Cunningham and Rishard Matthews in 6th and 7th Round. How's that working out? They cut Clyde Gates, who runs 4.3, never tried throwing him a vertical pass. Plus they don't like Brandon Marshall's problem, so they sign Chad O-So-Sinkhole? They had Braylon Edwards in for a work-out, let him leave and signed Eric Steinbach, who then retired. (Isn't the purpose of a work-out to assess a player's physical condition?)
No big receiver means opposing Ds can just man-up on Fins WRs, jam the line to stop the run. Unless you somehow Game Plan around it. Any sign of that? What they have done or (haven't done) at WR ripples through entire team. The situation they have managed themselves into at WR shows they have no football intelligence whatsoever. Ireland is most culpable, however, the Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator must share blame -- they should have been screaming for a receiver since March. Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 14, 2012, 04:17:48 pm What they have done or (haven't done) at WR ripples through entire team. The situation they have managed themselves into at WR shows they have no football intelligence whatsoever. Ireland is most culpable, however, the Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator must share blame -- they should have been screaming for a receiver since March. You realize the team was at the Cap Max or right near it and they had no money for a big move. If they wanted to trade for a big name they would have had to cut like 3 or 4 guys to do so. Maybe they should have, but it isn't as easy as "just go get someone" Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: tubba marxxx on September 14, 2012, 04:35:43 pm You realize the team was at the Cap Max or right near it and they had no money for a big move. If they wanted to trade for a big name they would have had to cut like 3 or 4 guys to do so. Maybe they should have, but it isn't as easy as "just go get someone" WE HAVE NO SUPERSTARS ON THIS TEAM..WHY ARE THEY AT MAX CAP??!?!?! Forget the horrible moves. He overpaid, overrated players. Another sign of a horrible GM Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 14, 2012, 05:17:22 pm WE HAVE NO SUPERSTARS ON THIS TEAM..WHY ARE THEY AT MAX CAP??!?!?! Forget the horrible moves. He overpaid, overrated players. Another sign of a horrible GM I am not saying I disagree with you. I am just telling you the situation. Easy to say "go sign a WR" but if you have no cap space you can't. Yes, Jeff handcuffed himself! Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: tubba marxxx on September 14, 2012, 07:08:56 pm I am not saying I disagree with you. I am just telling you the situation. Easy to say "go sign a WR" but if you have no cap space you can't. Yes, Jeff handcuffed himself! Just venting my frustrations towards the capped out part lol Title: Re: Wr's? Post by: MikeO on September 14, 2012, 07:16:04 pm Just venting my frustrations towards the capped out part lol I get it, I get it..lol |