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Title: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: dolphins4life on September 23, 2012, 05:09:34 pm
I couldn't watch the second half because I was working.

I did see the pick-six.

How did he do?

It seemed the offense struggled to move the ball in the second half.   


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: mecadonzilla on September 23, 2012, 05:12:23 pm
Outside of the nice play action pass to Hartline in the 4th, Tannehill was pretty lackluster.  Of course, they didn't ask him to do much at all in the game. 

He did make a nice throw to Armstrong over the middle for what should have been a first down before the above mentioned pass, but Armstrong let it go right throw his arms.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: CF DolFan on September 23, 2012, 05:51:37 pm
Outside of the nice play action pass to Hartline in the 4th, Tannehill was pretty lackluster.  Of course, they didn't ask him to do much at all in the game. 

He did make a nice throw to Armstrong over the middle for what should have been a first down before the above mentioned pass, but Armstrong let it go right throw his arms.
Do you not undertand Tannehill calls many of the run plays as well? He does much more than throw the ball.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: BigDaddyFin on September 23, 2012, 08:16:24 pm
his numbers were shit.  15 of 36 or whatever he ended up isn't going to get it done.  The worst of it though ended up being the pick 6 because it let the Jest back in the game.  Even as poorly as he played, Miami still should have won less that mistake.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: Fins4ever on September 24, 2012, 01:00:14 pm
Do you not undertand Tannehill calls many of the run plays as well? He does much more than throw the ball.

Let me say first that I wanted RT to sit for at least awhile if not a year before starting. It looked like that was going to happen until Garrard got hurt and Moore played poorly in PS.

That didn't happen and RT is doing his best. That said, I give him a D for his play yesterday. Most off his passes were inaccurate, he locked in on his WR's way too often, made poor decisions, forced the ball and his audibles were audiful. He will get better.

The good part is the rookies, coaching staff and esp. RT, can all grow up and mature together. You know how the Chinese have a year for everything (snake, rat, goat...)? This is
the year of "biting the bullet." 




Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: Dave Gray on September 24, 2012, 01:47:40 pm
I was impressed with Tannehill, more than everyone else, apparently.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: EKnight on September 24, 2012, 01:55:50 pm
16-36 for 196 yards.
0 TDs/1 INT returned for a pick 6.
50.2 QB rating.
2-9 on deep balls, including 1-7 during the 4th quarter and OT.
With a chance to go up 14-0, he missed Hartline fromt he 2 yard line and they have to kick a FG. Not sure what he did that was impressive? -EK


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: bsfins on September 24, 2012, 02:14:19 pm
I was impressed with Tannehill, more than everyone else, apparently.

Nope, I'm with you....I sort of feel there was a point where Sherman was trying to avoid another situation like during the Texans game...

For me it was the little things that the stats don't show...Changing the play at the line of scrimmage,recognizing the blitzes...etc.. Etc...

I even feel His INt wasn't near as bad as half the throws out of Sanchez yesterday...


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: Brian Fein on September 24, 2012, 02:16:46 pm
Sanchez looked AWFUL.  HORRIBLE.

Tannehill played WAY better than Sanchez did.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: mecadonzilla on September 24, 2012, 02:54:31 pm

Tannehill played WAY better than Sanchez did.

This sentence doesn't make any kind of sense.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: Dave Gray on September 24, 2012, 04:12:52 pm
16-36 for 196 yards.
0 TDs/1 INT returned for a pick 6.
50.2 QB rating.
2-9 on deep balls, including 1-7 during the 4th quarter and OT.
With a chance to go up 14-0, he missed Hartline fromt he 2 yard line and they have to kick a FG. Not sure what he did that was impressive? -EK

He kept poise and made 2 potential game-winning drives, not to mention a dropped pass in Armstrong's gut that would've essentially sealed the win, as well.  He performed admirably in crunch time.

If your argument is a stat-line, that's such a weak, weak argument, as stats are reflective of the play of about 50 other players.  Just watch the game and make an evaluation.

That's not to say that Tannehill was stellar by any means, but I thought, considering the circumstances, he played well enough to win and I was impressed by what I saw.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: EKnight on September 24, 2012, 04:58:17 pm
I DID watch the game, and I disagree with you. It may be an issue of semantics, but "he played well enough to win" is not impressive. Using your own word, "stellar" would have been impressive. After three games, Tannehill seems to have developed much less than either Weedon or Wilson, both of whom were drafted after him, and at least with Weedon, he has far less to work with. -EK


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: Brian Fein on September 24, 2012, 05:00:23 pm
EVERYONE SAID TANNEHILL WAS NOT READY TO PLAY!!!

Now people are bitching that he sucks.

Made your bed already, enjoy lying in it.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: EKnight on September 24, 2012, 05:08:11 pm
I have consistently said the guy is awful and not ready, but I don't know too many others who agreed. -EK


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 24, 2012, 05:12:36 pm
EK, welcome back!  We missed you after Tannehill played well and won.  It's a good thing you came back just in time for him to be a totally unsalvageable bust again!


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: EKnight on September 24, 2012, 05:23:50 pm
Played well and won or rode Bush's coat tails? Just want to make sure we're on the same page. He's not an unsalvageable bust; remember, I'm not allowed to label him that till December at the earliest. For now, all I can say is that he has the worst QB rating in the entire league among active starters, so even with him "playing well" in one game, he still looks like shit, IMO. -EK


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: Fins4ever on September 24, 2012, 07:24:01 pm
EVERYONE SAID TANNEHILL WAS NOT READY TO PLAY!!!

Now people are bitching that he sucks.

Made your bed already, enjoy lying in it.

No one said that he sucks. Where did you read that?

The question was how he did. Some thought he did well. I am not one of them. No surprise considering everything and nothing he has to deal with. I don't think it is fair to grade on a curve. You start at QB for a NFL team, you have the same expectations from the fans as the other 31 teams.  Hey, every NFL QB has a game where he sucks, not saying RT sucked, but I gave him a D.



Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: Pappy13 on September 24, 2012, 08:11:20 pm
It's telling that this was posted in the Anti-fins section. >:D  Seeing as that's the case and I don't have anything negative to say about him, I'll just reserve my comments for the pro Tannehill thread if and when there ever is one.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: EKnight on September 25, 2012, 10:00:39 am
I don't think it is fair to grade on a curve. You start at QB for a NFL team, you have the same expectations from the fans as the other 31 teams. 


Wish this board had a rep system. This is absolutely it. IMO, Tannehill is performing worse than any of the other rookies this year. Throw out RG3 and Luck because everyone will say it's an unfair comparison and look at his performance vs. Weeden and Wilson, both of whom were taken AFTER him:

RT: 615 passing yards/2 total TDs; 4 INTs/passer rating of 58.3
Weeden: 677 passing yards/3 TDs; 6 INTs/passer rating of 60.7
Wilson: 434 passing yards/4 TDs; 1 INT/passer rating of 86.2

I suppose you could argue that his numbers might be comparable to Weeden's, but Cleveland has less to work with, and Tannehill is the only QB to have a system hand-picked for him. How many other rookies get to enter the NFL with the exact same coach and system they had in college?

I agree- there is no curve. -EK


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: CF DolFan on September 25, 2012, 10:34:54 am
Wish this board had a rep system. This is absolutely it. IMO, Tannehill is performing worse than any of the other rookies this year. Throw out RG3 and Luck because everyone will say it's an unfair comparison and look at his performance vs. Weeden and Wilson, both of whom were taken AFTER him:

RT: 615 passing yards/2 total TDs; 4 INTs/passer rating of 58.3
Weeden: 677 passing yards/3 TDs; 6 INTs/passer rating of 60.7
Wilson: 434 passing yards/4 TDs; 1 INT/passer rating of 86.2

I suppose you could argue that his numbers might be comparable to Weeden's, but Cleveland has less to work with, and Tannehill is the only QB to have a system hand-picked for him. How many other rookies get to enter the NFL with the exact same coach and system they had in college?

I agree- there is no curve. -EK

Who are they throwing to? I mean, Armstrong dropped three in the last game alone. I realize that doesn't matter to you because all you are looking for is failure for some unknown reason but people aren't recognizing him doing well for nothing.


Title: Re: How did Tannehill do today?
Post by: EKnight on September 25, 2012, 10:47:24 am
Who are they throwing to? I mean, Armstrong dropped three in the last game alone. I realize that doesn't matter to you because all you are looking for is failure for some unknown reason but people aren't recognizing him doing well for nothing.

Who are they throwing to? Cleveland's no name group includes Little and Massaquoi, and Richardson. After week 2, the Browns had 7 passes dropped, to Miami's 6. Cleveland averages about 38 passing attempts per game, to Miami's 30. That seems like a wash to me.

Seattle? Sydney Rice (big name, but only 600 total receiving yards and 4 TD's over the past 2 years, combined), Tate (worse than Rice), and Lynch. After week 2, they had only 3 drops. Seattle averages 25 passing attempts per game.

I don't see anything on either roster that would make either team stand out in terms of more talent. -EK