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Title: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Fins4ever on October 03, 2012, 12:30:13 pm
Here is the grades that Scott Altman of The Bleacher Report gives the Fins on FA signings. For those of you not familiar with Scott, he is a very good writer and is one of my personal favorite. I think you will find his articles accurate and usually on the optimistic side (which I like).

As far as this article goes, JI has taken some heat for some of his FA signings and non signing. I personally didn't think this year was a "bumper crop" of talent, but was disappointed to see them let RT Eric Winston get away when RT was a major need and he was ranked as one of the best in the league. As it turned out, they drafted Martin and all seems well.

My comments...Love Thiggy and Lane. No way do I give 5 mil a year to Marshall. Naanee was a nightmare!     


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1354048-report-card-grades-for-every-miami-dolphins-free-agent-acquisition-so-far?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=miami-dolphins


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: aquaaiea on October 05, 2012, 02:25:42 am
javorskie Train gets my Vote! Who wants a concussion hehehe!


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Landshark on October 05, 2012, 06:57:13 am
javorskie Train gets my Vote! Who wants a concussion hehehe!

Jovorskie Clear The Lane was clearly a Mike Sherman decision, and a good one at that.  At least Ireland listened to his coaches on that one.


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Fins4ever on October 05, 2012, 10:40:45 am
Jovorskie Clear The Lane was clearly a Mike Sherman decision, and a good one at that.  At least Ireland listened to his coaches on that one.

Agree. I believe that Ireland, Sherman and Philbin have a very good working relationship and listen to each other. I am glad to see it. Parcells would have never took the advice of a coach on who to pick.

That said, now McCoy needs to get in the game and tell Jeff he needs some players. lol


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Brian Fein on October 05, 2012, 10:51:31 am
Jovorskie Clear The Lane was clearly a Mike Sherman decision, and a good one at that.  At least Ireland listened to his coaches on that one.
Yes, all good decisions should be attributed to coaches, and all poor decisions are clearly Ireland's fault.

Do you see how ridiculous you sound?


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: tubba marxxx on October 05, 2012, 11:06:21 am
Jovorskie Clear The Lane was clearly a Mike Sherman decision, and a good one at that.  At least Ireland listened to his coaches on that one.

"Clear the Lane"  doesn't get old...best nickname ever.


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Fins4ever on October 05, 2012, 11:27:58 am
"Clear the Lane"  doesn't get old...best nickname ever.


BTW, love your signature!!! Is that true? 5 yrs. old? Really?


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Landshark on October 05, 2012, 11:57:14 am
Yes, all good decisions should be attributed to coaches, and all poor decisions are clearly Ireland's fault.

Do you see how ridiculous you sound?

Not as ridiculous as Ireland himself asking a draft prospect if his mother was a prostitute.  Let's face it, Ireland has created a reputation for himself as a bumbling nitwit.  It's going to be a long time before that changes, if ever.


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Brian Fein on October 05, 2012, 04:36:47 pm
"My dad was a pimp.  My mom worked for my dad."

Draw your own conclusion.

His reputation COULD easily change, if buffoons would quit bringing up negative things he did 3 or 4 years ago as evidence.


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2012, 11:27:48 pm
"My dad was a pimp.  My mom worked for my dad."

Draw your own conclusion.

His reputation COULD easily change, if buffoons would quit bringing up negative things he did 3 or 4 years ago as evidence.

One place where I sorta disagree with ya Brian. You are right, draw your own conclusion. Which is why the question didn't need to be asked. Jeff asked it though. That is something Jeff might never live down.


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Fins4ever on October 06, 2012, 09:18:58 am

His reputation COULD easily change, if buffoons would quit bringing up negative things he did 3 or 4 years ago as evidence.

Never understood this argument. If I am responsible for spending a high round draft pick and millions of dollars of my bosses $$$ on a WR while risking my very job, you are damn right I want to know what kind of environment the kid grew up in. Is it a deal breaker? Maybe. BTW, how did that turn out? lol

 


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: MikeO on October 06, 2012, 07:41:12 pm
The Art Hicks "situation" is getting very ugly for Ireland. This from the Miami Herald............

The Dolphins are feuding with prominent NFL agents John Rickert and Peter Schaffer, who filed a grievance against the Dolphins with the players association this week because Miami is refusing to pay guard Artis Hicks’ $1.2 million salary. The Dolphins claim Hicks, their first offseason signing, did not disclose a pre-existing neck condition. Hogwash, his agents says. Hicks was released last week.

Rickert said in 2006 that Hicks had a neck sprain – “totally different” from the current bone spurs on his vertebrae - and that his 2006 MRI was negative and he did not miss a game. “Peter has been in the business 25 years, and he and I have never seen a situation like this where a team is so blatantly unfair against a player,” said Rickert, who represents Dolphins linebacker Kevin Burnett and many others.

Will the agents steer players away from Miami now? Rickert said “if this is the type of treatment” players get, “it would definitely enter our thinking.”




Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: MikeO on October 06, 2012, 09:03:06 pm
Ex-Dolphins Phillip Merling was cut by the Packers today.

Another early pick by the Fins who didn't make it and who's career is probably over.  Also another nut-job who beat up his pregnant girlfriend


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Landshark on October 07, 2012, 12:03:11 am
One place where I sorta disagree with ya Brian. You are right, draw your own conclusion. Which is why the question didn't need to be asked. Jeff asked it though. That is something Jeff might never live down.

Exactly the point.  In a professional environment, that's not something you would ever ask a job applicant.  EVER.  If I went to interview for a job and the interviewer asked me that question, I would see to it that the interviewer would be applying for jobs alongside me.


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: jimmythefinger on October 07, 2012, 07:38:49 am
The Dez Bryant thing, the Alex Smith thing -- those were dumb. The main thing you have to hold against Ireland is dumping Brandon Marshall AND NOT SIGNING ANYONE TO REPLACE HIM. The guy's on "Hard Knocks" talking to someone on the phone, talking about his Receivers: "We've got a lot of fours, fives and sixes. We need some ones, twos and threes." Well, it's HIS JOB to go get some ones, two and threes. They dump Brandon Marshall, they sign Legedu Naanae. How'd that work out? And he blew it a couple years ago with Paul Soliai, not getting a deal done, having to franchise the guy, making him the highest paid Lineman (Offense or Defense) in Dolphin history.

And I mentioned Soliai before and a number of guys jumped my case, saying Ireland did good there, but that's simply not true. He made $14 Million in 2010 and did nothing. So when he tried to go elsewhere nobody would pay him, so the Fins were able to re-sign him. Article in Miami Herald today saying Soliai is supposed to be worth $7.8 Million toward Cap next year when Miami's trying to re-sign Reggie Bush, Jake Long, Sean Smith and Brian Hartline.

This is where Ireland sucks. Along with the later rounds of the draft. He's got no eye for talent. The first 2 rounds, let's face it, you can listen to Mel Kiper and pretty much figure out who to draft. But in the later rounds you are looking for diamonds in the rough and Ireland's like Stevie Wonder at the Free Throw Line.


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: MikeO on October 07, 2012, 09:20:38 am

And I mentioned Soliai before and a number of guys jumped my case, saying Ireland did good there, but that's simply not true. He made $14 Million in 2010 and did nothing. So when he tried to go elsewhere nobody would pay him, so the Fins were able to re-sign him. Article in Miami Herald today saying Soliai is supposed to be worth $7.8 Million toward Cap next year when Miami's trying to re-sign Reggie Bush, Jake Long, Sean Smith and Brian Hartline.



Paul Soliai is one of the premier NT/DT in all of football. What in god's name are you talking about? Miami's rush defense through 4 games is #1 this year and was #3 last year. Don't ya think the guy in the middle of it all might have something to do with that?! And he did nothing in 2010? The Fins were 6th in total defense. 7th in rush defense. Soliai was the anchor of that d-line, especially in a 3-4 scheme where the entire thing hinges on the NT and his play.

Soliai at only $7.8 mill next year is a friggin steal! It's one of the best bargains in the entire league. Most premier NT/DT make upward of $10-$12 mill a year. We got a guy who plays at that level at a hometown discount because he likes Miami. He held off getting on the plane to go to Denver (who wanted him badly) because he was hoping Miami would come back with a better offer at the last minute. They did, he didn't chase the money and stayed where he wanted to be.

P.S...The Fins still have upward of $60 mill to spend next year on re-signing those 4 guys (Long,Bush,Smith,Hartline) and any other FA they may want,  I don't don't think Paul Soliai's deal will ruin anything  ::)


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: Fins4ever on October 07, 2012, 12:15:10 pm



Soliai at only $7.8 mill next year is a friggin steal! It's one of the best bargains in the entire league. Most premier NT/DT make upward of $10-$12 mill a year. We got a guy who plays at that level at a hometown discount because he likes Miami.

I am with ya on this one. I was shocked to see Paul settle for what he did. Hope Long follows suit. One of the best moves Jeff has ever made. Losing Soliai would really screw up the D line.


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: MikeO on October 08, 2012, 03:41:07 pm


This is where Ireland sucks. Along with the later rounds of the draft. He's got no eye for talent. The first 2 rounds, let's face it, you can listen to Mel Kiper and pretty much figure out who to draft. But in the later rounds you are looking for diamonds in the rough and Ireland's like Stevie Wonder at the Free Throw Line.

Just to get this out of the way now so you can enjoy the next few months and you're holiday season and not have to think about this issue. If Tannehill continues to play well and the Fins end up winning somewhere between 6-8 games; Ireland is going no place. He will stay for a little while longer. As he should!


Title: Re: Grading The Free Agents
Post by: MikeO on October 08, 2012, 08:06:45 pm
Another one Ireland got right. Kendall Langford. This stat from Omar Kelly

Former Dolphins DE Kendall Langford has started 5 games for the Rams. He's contributed 5 tackles this season.Rams are allowing 4.4 per carry