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Goodell announced Super Bowl 50 will be in Miami or Santa Clara. It is going to be the biggest event in NFL history and cities were fighting like crazy over it. South Florida has hosted so many super bowls that's why they are in the running. Super Bowl I was in California that is why they Santa Clara in the running (plus they got a new stadium). So, Goodell today said its down to Santa Clara or Miami. Miami needs to upgrade the stadium to have a chance. Whatever team doesn't get 50 will go up against Houston for Super Bowl 51.

Everyone thinks it is going to be Santa Clara because its a new stadium.  Voting is in May

Just as long as the Dolphins don't play in a dome I'm fine with any improvements or new stadium.

Canopy/Roof with a hole in the middle like the old Cowboys stadium. It is coming. Just a matter of WHEN and no longer "IF"

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Add me to the everybody list. Goodell was promoting the SB in Dallas before the cement was dry. Too bad they sold more tickets than seats. You know, those huge brains in TX. lol 

Super Bowl I was held in California.  Super Bowl II was in Miami.  It wouldn't surprise me if Super Bowl L was in Cali and LI in Miami.

Unless Miami does Stadium upgrades I don't think they are getting one. I think 51 will be in Houston unless the city of Miami finds money to help Ross pay for upgrades

If you wanna put a roof, do it right.  That horrendous rendering they released of a flat roof was the worst idea ever.

I can tell you from experience that playing games indoors, heat or not, is terrible.  Marlins Park flexed their "retractable-roof" muscle all year, and the Marlins played maybe 8 games outside.  The place is so much better with the roof open.  With the roof closed, it feels like baseball in a warehouse.

This is south Florida. People come here for the weather.  Don't make a mistake and cover up the stadium.  They don't even play in the summertime.  The weather in September thru February is the nicest time of year here.  Why would we want to play football inside or under any kind of roof?

I'm against it.  Completely.

I agree.  The reason Kim Jong Goodell wants a roof is because of the rain during the Colts-Bears Super Bowl.  That rain just happened to be coincidental because it rarely rains in Florida in February.  There have been rainy days during the Super Bowl before and it has not been a problem.  Why now?

Because the NFL has become increasingly sensitive to fan comfort and image and has drifted away from the roots of the game. Why don't you think there is never a SB in Chicago or G.B.?   

There is going to be one in New York

Easy.  Because those places suck in the winter.  The fan experience (and maybe the game) would be greatly reduced.  If I get to choose between a warm weather city like San Diego/Miami or Green Bay/Chicago........it's a no brainer.  

Because it's cold as shit there in January? Maimi doesn't have THAT problem anyway.

Yeah, but it looks so cool on TV. lol

Seriously, when we played sandlot as kids, it didn't get any better than playing in the rain, mud or snow. Much better than the heat.

The fans would still fill the seats. Really, if you live in G.B., it is kind of unfair not to be considered as a SB host just because of the weather.   

While weather is a big issue, I am sure the NFL can give 100 reasons why Green Bay would not be considered. Off the top of my head; the age of their stadium and the lack of infrastructure to support it (transportation, restaraunts, hotel, etc.) come immediately to mind.

Plus, Green Bay fans would never be able to afford Super Bowl tickets, so their fans wouldn't even go to the game.

No one in Green Bay can afford tickets?  WTF?  Maybe you should lay off the Landshark before posting.

Maybe you should lay off whatever it is your smoking before you post.  Green Bay is a working class city.  According to demographic stats, the median income in Green Bay is $38,820.  You're not going to be able to spend $15,000 on a pair of Super Bowl tickets on that kind of income unless you do some careful saving/financing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay,_Wisconsin

I would venture to guess that most of those high priced tickets are bought by large corporations or the very wealthy. I seriously doubt the locals make up a significant % of SB ticket sales.

Do you think New Orleans is an affluent city? Jacksonville, FL? yes, Jax had it a few years back and if you have ever been there, it is like 1 big hood filled with drugs and crime.

I grew up in central Illinois, so yeah I can relate, but I can remember days from my youth shoveling snow that I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy, so I can understand the NFL thinking twice about it as well. LOL

I have SO many good stories I'd like to share right now, but I'd need another hour or 2 to do them justice, so you'll just have to use your imagination. It's part of the reason I now live in Texas. :)

Neither New Orleans, nor Jacksonville are affluent cities.  Jacksonville had a major problem with hotel accomodations for the game as well.  They had to dock some cruise ships in the St. Johns River to overcome that problem. 

The whole point is, someone posted in this thread that Green Bay fans would fill the seats if the Super Bowl was held in Green Bay.  With the price of Super Bowl tickets being what they are, I beg to differ.  I've heard of people taking out second mortgages on their houses to buy Super Bowl tickets.  You will never see me doing that.

The high ticket prices are everywhere, not just the NFL. I am from Central FL. (not originally) and my son went to UF and is a big Gator fan (naturally). Just for giggles I thought I would buy him a ticket to the game. The cheapest ticket I could get was in the nose bleeds and was 300 bucks against a so-so team.

I was flabbergasted. Did not buy the ticket. lol

Tommy, don't be ridiculous.  I'm sorry, but when I see a statement like "Green Bay fans would never be able to afford Super Bowl tickets", it's so naive, I have to call you out.  It's lazy posting.  Maybe you should use wikipedia before you post instead of after.  You compound it by focusing on the median income of Green Bay and quote a price of 15k for a pair of tickets.   Here are some things you should consider

- approx 85% of the attendees for a Super Bowl are from out of state (this would change if the local team was in the game)
- tickets are available to season ticket holders (locals) for face value, something like 800 - 1200 dollars.  You could get a brokered ticket to last years SB for around 3K
- just because a the median income in Wisconsin is around 55K, there are plenty of corporations and individuals with incomes that far exceed that

 

I'm going to say this yet again.  My name is not Tommy, it's Lee.  That being said, I'm still sticking to my belief that Green Bay fans would not be buying tickets en masse if the Super Bowl was held at Lambeau Field.  The median income for the CITY OF GREEN BAY is accurately stated.  And where did I get the $15K from?  Simple.  I recall reading about a couple who were Bears fans coming to Miami for the Bears-Colts Super Bowl, and complaining about not being able to tailgate and that they spent $12,500 for a pair of tickets.  Granted, those tickets were in the lower level and at about the 35 yard line.

Why is there not anyone named Lee listed in the department you say you teach in at the school you say you teach at?

So one example of one person who paid who-knows-what from who-knows-where to see their favorite team in the Super Bowl.  Guarantee their tickets face value wasn't 12,500.  Note: the people in your scenario were not FROM Miami.  Thus, its likely that the people going to the Super Bowl in Green Bay won't be from Green Bay.  So, the median income of Green Bay, WI is totally irrelevant.

Which is exactly my point.  Green Bay fans won't be at the Super Bowl just because the game is in Green Bay.  And you're probably right that the tickets were not $12,500 face value.  Face value means nothing for the Super Bowl.  Market value does.

You're not backing out of this one...

In support of Phish's reasons why the Super Bowl in Green Bay would be a bad choice, you stated:
As if to say that "the only fans that go to Super Bowls are people who live nearby, and therefore no one would go if they held it in Green Bay because they're all poor."

Your statement is dead false, as proven repeatedly above.

LOL You go Brian. Yeah, I think that statement was made with not much thought.

PS. How do you break a quote down and put it in a blue box and answer each point separate? 

My bad then.  I should've inserted the word "local" before "Green Bay fans"

Not a big deal.

Lets face it, the skyrocketing cost for SB tickets have made it difficult if not impossible for the average fan to see it live. I am middle class and love football, but would not be willing to make the sacrifice needed to buy the tickets and travel arrangements.

The SB has become a venue for the wealthy. Check it out and keep in mind this is just for 1 ticket and includes nothing else.

 http://www.gotickets.com/sports/nfl/super_bowl.php

Those prices may be higher than the final street value as the only people even considering buying a ticket right now are the ultra-wealthy. 

Most purchased tickets are bought by fans of a specific team after the AFCCG and NFCCG are played. 

Unless you have an insane amount of extra money you are not going to buy a SB ticket just to see any two teams play.  Middle class folks who buy tickets to the SB do so to see their team.

I'm with ya there.  I'm upper middle class and I still would not be willing to spend the thousands it would cost to get Super Bowl tickets. 

Cut and paste the quote part within brackets like this...

Thank you Pappy!

It is totally about the tourist dollars and the week-long festivities leading up to the game. The SB is more about what goes on before the game as much as what happens on game day now.
I wish it were in a freezing cold place...it would drive all the celebrities and posers away and leave the seats available to the true football fans.

It's going to be in New York next season.  I can't wait to see that potential train wreck.

It won't be a trainwreck until game time. NY is used to hosting "big events" and the week leading up to the game and such won't be a problem and it will run smooth. If it snows or is ice cold during the game, then yeah it will be a disaster that will be talked about forever.