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"A spokesman for the Pasadena School system told Fox News that the ban was part of a district-wide wellness policy – and that most of the guidelines come from the federal government."

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/schools-crack-down-on-cheetos.html

Looks like Chester Cheetah is about to become an endangered species.

The federal guidelines prohibit the school from selling the Cheetos in school.  (e.g. vending machines ) Banning the kids from bring them from home is local decision of district or particular school. 

I, for one, think this is a great policy.  childhood obesity is a real problem, and these companies that sell food known to make kids fat is just appalling.

I don't like the government telling us what we can and cannot eat, but having schools undermine parents' decisions by making garbage food available at all times is a whole different story.

Well said. Perhaps the nutrition education should start with the parents. Like you, I don't like govt. regs invading my decision making. I do like the idea that the gov. has forced fast food rest. to post nutrition info on their menu items. That way a person can make their own choice based on the info available.

That is fair. 

I have mixed views on this specific policy. 

I do support Obama's guideline prohibiting the school from selling cheetos and other junk food.

I do support gov't guidelines requiring fast food places to provide nutrition info.

I oppose Mayor Bloomberg's banning of the selling of large soft drinks to ADULTS.

On one hand I think it is silly to have teachers monitoring what food kids bring to school, on the other hand if Cheeto consumption is so widespread to be an issue well then obviously the parents aren't doing their job and it might be time for the school to do what the parents should be doing. 

For the most part I see this as a non-issue.  If my kids when to a school with such a policy, I would be okay with the Cheeto ban.  If the school didn't have a Cheeto ban I wouldn't be pushing for one. 

I am totally in favor of government deciding what their school sell to kids.  They have to choose what to sell -- might as well make it healthier choices.

I am against banning (within reason) what kids are allowed to bring in their own lunches.

I suppose if you wanted to ban energy drinks or something, I could understand.

Kind of hypocritical of you to say "this is a great policy since childhood obesity is a real problem". To take your statement at face value and equal terms. Since Negros have a 51% higher obesity rate and Hispanics have a 21% higher obesity rate, you should also think that the food police should target them. How about breaking it down into genders too ? You do know that all these silly programs cost money don't you ?

You broke the statement down into racial groups.  What does that have to do with anything?  There's plenty of fat white kids too.  Nothing I stated is hypocritical.

You broke it down into groups when you brought age into it. Your presumption is that it's the governments job to regulate what people buy and eat with their own money. It is not. Maybe let the parents feed their kids what they want to.

You're kidding right?  Yeah, when talking about SCHOOL LUNCHES, breaking it up into age groups (i.e. kids vs adults - because so many adults go to middle schools) is FAR different than breaking it up into black, hispanic and white.  Really?

What did I say?

"I don't like the government telling us what we can and cannot eat, but having schools undermine parents' decisions by making garbage food available at all times is a whole different story."

How is that contrary to letting parents feed kids what they want to?

Its states more about school undermining the parents i.e. parents pack little Johnny an apple, school sells kids cheetos.

You just like to argue just to argue, even when you agree?

The government shouldn't have anything to do with any of it. Give them an inch they take a mile, ie NY soda ban. The government needs to get the fuck out of peoples lives.

I'm sure you know this but, the government owns the schools.  The school cafeteria is a government operated and funded storefront, with children ages 6-17 as their customers...  What they sell is quite literally their business.

I am saying that the federal government should not be making these decisions.

I'm fine with this decision.

Furthermore, the article says that there is a "ban" on hot cheetos, not just the school selling them. There is a difference between not selling a product and confiscating lunches that parents send to school.

^^ I agree, that's crap.  I don't think schools should be able to regulate what kids bring to school.

However, I'm guessing this is some measure to prevent kids from selling cheetos to their classmates at school.  And why only Hot Cheetos?

Regardless of if you agree with me, I think you see what I'm saying as far as government involvement. I read where a school told a girl her turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice wasn't good enough and proceeded to give her chicken nuggets. And on top of that, they threatened her mother that next time there would be a $1.25 fee. This stuff is totally ridiculous.

^^^ Did you read enough of that article to get to the section where they admitted the teacher made a mistake?

Which article ? About the cheetos or the one I cited ?

I believe I saw the same article you cited, where a teacher took the girl's lunch. The school has a policy that all lunches contain certain amounts of servings covering meats, fruits/vegetables, etc. whether they come from home or are served by the school. One teacher made that decision either out of bad judgement or by missing something the girl had in her lunch that covered the requirements. The school acknowledged it was a mistake in the article I read.

I read it a while ago but a quick google search shows a second complaint from the same school. I hadn't even heard about this one. Regardless, telling a small child that there is something wrong with her mothers packed lunch or it is not good enough, when in fact there is nothing wrong with it, is totally messed up. Government intervening into personal lives is not the answer.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exclusive-2nd-n-c-mother-says-daughters-school-lunch-replaced-for-not-being-healthy-enough/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exclusive-2nd-n-c-mother-says-daughters-school-lunch-replaced-for-not-being-healthy-enough/)

Its absolutely and utterly unacceptable to tell me what I can and can't put in my kid's lunchbox.  If I want to give my kid 8 snack packs and chessey poofs for lunch, I should be able to do that.

Then we mostly agree after all. See it wasn't that difficult  ;D

I would say that if you give your kid 8 snack packs and cheesey poofs for lunch you are skating very close to committing the crime of neglecting your children.  

^^^ I was about to say you're endangering your child.

If that's the case then letting your child play football, basketball, or soccer is endangering your child. Life involves risk !!!

I'm endangering my child by giving him/her a treat on a Friday after they got a good grade on a test?  I'm not talking about every day...

Sigh, I hate it when people take it to silly extremes. We all know that there are parents that feed their kids crap and when they're 8 years old they weigh way too much and are at serious risk of health issues. That's when Child Protective Services step in and take the child away from the parent being negligent. I assume we can all agree that it's better that way so the child is safe and we have government step in at that point in time, right?

I used hyperbole to accentuate the point.  That is, the parents should be the sole contributor to determining what goes in my kid's lunchbox.  If I tell my kid they're not allowed to have soda, I don't think its OK for the school to ONLY sell soda.  Conversely, if I want to pack my kid a bag of Cheetos in their lunch, I don't think the school should have the right to confiscate it.

Fundamentally, they are opposing situations.  Clearly, someone who says their kid can't have soda wouldn't, at the same time, pack Cheetos in the lunch box.  But both should be accommodated.

^^^ My response was in relation to badger6's example of not allowing a child to play sports.

Are we talking about public or private schools here?

I don't have a problem with the government telling public schools what they can and can't provide for lunch, however I have a big problem with them trying to regulate what the kids eat for lunch if they aren't eating what the school provides.

As for private schools they can do whatever the hell they want. No one is forced to go to a private school. That's at the parent's/students discretion. If you don't like the lunch policy they have, don't go there.

I think this topic makes for a great debate and agree that kids too young to know what's best for them should have some guidance. I also agree there seems no end to government intervention.

Perhaps instead of singling out a particular product "like cheetos", they should have a strict criteria of what can and cannot be served in public schools. 

FWIW, where I live private schools are gaining popularity and most that can afford it have removed their kids from the public school system. The county I am in has seen enrollment drop for 4 straight years despite increasing population. It has actually caused quite a budget problem. 

Playing team sports like the ones you note have been widely proven to not only increase the physical fitness and overall health of a developing child, but also to help them build critical social and interpersonal skills that will help them work and live well with others as adults. Do you think you might be able to cite one bit of scientific research to indicate that the munching of Cheetos or other fat-snax helps do ANYTHING positive to a person of any age?

Of course not. You just randomly spout stupid shit. Hopefully, one of these days you'll learn how to operate both your brain and your keyboard simultaneously. Or just your brain...

Food, regardless of the type, is needed to live. I would count that a positive. On the other hand, sports is not required to live and there have been many permanent injuries and deaths from sports at all levels. Social and interpersonal skills can be developed in many different ways.


I would respond to this, but I would probably make you cry and get myself banned. It would also mean that I let you get to me, but you are not man enough to get to me. All I can say is I wish you had the opportunity to say that to my face in the middle of nowhere. With that said, move along little boy !!!

Now I know you're just trolling...no one could possibly be so stupid that they would say that publicly.

You are changing your tune here. 

Giving your child a treat once a week is a far different thing than feeding them just a diet of just junk food. 

Say what ? You are the troll little kid. I have a position in this thread. You have none, you just came here to insult me with no position whatsoever. Looking at your post history you don't really discuss anything, you just pop your head into a thread to bash someone you don't agree with with no substance to your posts. You sir are the epitome of a troll. Nice try at deflection though. Go get your leftie buddies to back you up now. At least Spiderdan has a position, I can respect that, even if we disagree. You are a coward. Fuck GWBush, you are the current failure, say hey to Obama for me, ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

My position was that only an idiot would use the argument "Food, regardless of the type, is needed to live. I would count that a positive." when discussing kids snacking on cheetos in school.

I stand by that position...only an idiot would say it. Deny the label, embrace the label, hop on a cross and claim personal-attack martyrdom over the label...I don't give a rat's ass.

You done crying now little girl ? Go change your tampon. Have a great weekend !!!

I don't say how that's changing my tune, nowhere in my original post, which you quoted, did I discuss a persistent diet.  However, according to the prior discussion, even one "offensive item" packed in my kid's lunchbox on one singular day was enough to get confiscated.