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Title: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Landshark on November 06, 2012, 08:15:09 am The wife and I went and got our votes in before I headed to the office this morning. Anyone else having good/bad experiences at the polling places?
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Cathal on November 06, 2012, 08:38:46 am Pretty simple for me. I was in line for about 30 minutes before I could vote. Couldn't be simpler.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Brian Fein on November 06, 2012, 11:06:25 am I have heard from several independent sources that Rick Scott, Florida's governor, is purposely sandbagging the polling places to make it inconvenient to vote, make wait times excessive, to help Romney's cause.
How is this not considered election tampering? I went to the polling place at 6:30 AM and didn't leave until after 9 AM. They had 10 voting booths inside a gigantic middle school gymnasium. This is ridiculous. This process needs to be improved and Rick Scott needs to be impeached. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Cathal on November 06, 2012, 11:43:37 am ^^^ I'm ignorant, but why would it only help Mitt's cause? Wouldn't everyone be inconvenience?
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Brian Fein on November 06, 2012, 11:47:23 am because the affected counties are typically Obama supporters. Low voter turnout favors Romney in these areas and could give him the 29 electoral votes to swing the election.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: bsfins on November 06, 2012, 11:52:09 am There were more people working the polls,than people voting at my precinct.
After I handed my drivers licence to the worker (not required here,but it makes tons easier for the poll worker to find your name) I got asked two more times to verify my address,verbally to two different people. I'm curious.... If you guy's get a sample ballot,or look at the ballot online before you vote? I'm always shocked,by the things that I've never heard a peep about that are on the ballot...I had no Clue about Prop A on the Ballot(till I paid my rent and my landlord pointed it out to me),because it's about giving the control of the K.C.,and St.Louis police departments back to the cities from the state. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Spider-Dan on November 06, 2012, 12:05:39 pm ^^^ I'm ignorant, but why would it only help Mitt's cause? Wouldn't everyone be inconvenience? Urban areas are more likely to have long lines and congestion.Urban voters typically vote Democratic. Connect the dots. I voted by mail (in CA) a week ago. I think the Democratic Party needs to make a huge push towards vote-by-mail registration to sidestep the voter suppression tactics that are recently becoming popular. I read about people waiting 7 hours in line during early voting; that's totally unacceptable. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Phishfan on November 06, 2012, 01:52:13 pm I voted by mail (in CA) a week ago. I hope you signed it completely legible. This is the voting method where most votes are not counted because the signature cannot be read/confirmed. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: SportsChick on November 06, 2012, 02:02:10 pm Problem with confirming signatures? I changed my name in my license last year after I got married. The lady at the DMV also changed my voter registration over for me. I didn't have to sign anything. What do they have to compare my signature to? What they have on file is my maiden name and obviously my signature is quite different now.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Spider-Dan on November 06, 2012, 02:03:00 pm Yes, I am aware that (in CA) your ballot signature must match the signature on your registration (which is not the same thing as being legible).
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Brian Fein on November 06, 2012, 02:04:15 pm They mail out sample ballots but no one reads them. There were 12 amendments on our ballot, each of which read like a doctoral thesis, and people who weren't familiar with them took about 30 minutes longer to fill out their ballots (and likely got duped into voting against themselves by the wording).
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Buddhagirl on November 06, 2012, 02:11:48 pm I downloaded my sample ballot online and studied up.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: SportsChick on November 06, 2012, 02:34:02 pm Yes, I am aware that (in CA) your ballot signature must match the signature on your registration (which is not the same thing as being legible). What I'm saying though is that they have no signature on file for me with my married name. What then? Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Spider-Dan on November 06, 2012, 02:40:39 pm If your signature-on-file does not match the signature on your absentee ballot, I believe your ballot will be rejected.
I find it hard to believe that the DMV would be able to change your name on your license and your voter registration without requiring a single signature from you, though. It may be that you signed once for all the paperwork, and that signature was used for your new voter registration signature-on-file. You should probably look into it. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: CF DolFan on November 06, 2012, 04:18:02 pm I have heard from several independent sources that Rick Scott, Florida's governor, is purposely sandbagging the polling places to make it inconvenient to vote, make wait times excessive, to help Romney's cause. This cracks me up because I think you are being serious. You elect a Supervisor of Elections in each county that oversees the election process. So if you are in a democratic part of town I would be willing to bet you have a democrat that heads the election process. I would find it very unusual if they were sold out to Scott. How is this not considered election tampering? I went to the polling place at 6:30 AM and didn't leave until after 9 AM. They had 10 voting booths inside a gigantic middle school gymnasium. This is ridiculous. This process needs to be improved and Rick Scott needs to be impeached. Find your Supervisor of Elections below http://doedoe.dos.state.fl.us/soe/supervisor_elections.asp With that said I think it's really bad how much both sides distrust each other because of the propaganda from both extremes. That says more about the US of A than any political ad could ever do. It's really sad. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 06, 2012, 04:24:14 pm You elect a Supervisor of Elections in each county that oversees the election process. So if you are in a democratic part of town I would be willing to bet you have a democrat that heads the election process. Counties are a lot bigger than a "part of town". So if you are in a "Demorcratic part of town" in a "republican county" it is probably headed up by a republican. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Brian Fein on November 06, 2012, 04:59:27 pm I know who the supervisor of elections is, and I also know that the governor has far more power than some lady. It came from several independent sources, including an implication on CNN I saw at lunchtime. Why are there no huge ridiculous lines being reported in any other states?
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Spider-Dan on November 06, 2012, 05:14:17 pm The elections are controlled by the governor and secretary of state; major changes have to be approved up the chain of command. County election supervisors have very limited power.
See: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/04/florida-democrats-want-extended-early-voting-hours/ Winter Park police told Fox News a polling official called at 11:45 a.m. after being alerted to a small cooler that appeared to have protruding wires and had been left on the side of the building for hours. The police then called the county sheriff office’s bomb squad, which destroyed the cooler and a black plastic bag found by a dog team. No explosives were detected, and authorities gave the all clear sign at about 4 p.m. Police had to evacuate the building and move the voting line down the street and try to keep voters' spots in line. Sen. Bill Nelson and other Democrats asked Republican Gov. Rick Scott this past week to use his emergency powers to extend early voting. The Republican-controlled state legislature last year cut the number of days available for early voting from a maximum of 14 days to eight days. However, Scott and state election officials turned down the requests. Secretary of State Ken Detzner maintained that there was not a true emergency that justified the extension. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: bsfins on November 06, 2012, 05:32:10 pm You shouldn't have to take a half a day off work to go vote.... :'(
(It should be a National Holiday!) Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Sunstroke on November 06, 2012, 05:43:43 pm I voted in Boynton Beach this morning at the local HS, and it took about 45 minutes. One of the volunteers there said the line had been longer about an hour earlier, about the time most folks were heading to work, but it was relatively painless by the time I got there. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: CF DolFan on November 06, 2012, 05:54:30 pm The elections are controlled by the governor and secretary of state; major changes have to be approved up the chain of command. County election supervisors have very limited power. The rest of the story is they did extend voting to Sunday to cover it. God forbid they had to actually vote on the day of the election. I certainly hope they never move to a state that doesn't have early voting. See: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/04/florida-democrats-want-extended-early-voting-hours/ Winter Park police told Fox News a polling official called at 11:45 a.m. after being alerted to a small cooler that appeared to have protruding wires and had been left on the side of the building for hours. The police then called the county sheriff office’s bomb squad, which destroyed the cooler and a black plastic bag found by a dog team. No explosives were detected, and authorities gave the all clear sign at about 4 p.m. Police had to evacuate the building and move the voting line down the street and try to keep voters' spots in line. Sen. Bill Nelson and other Democrats asked Republican Gov. Rick Scott this past week to use his emergency powers to extend early voting. The Republican-controlled state legislature last year cut the number of days available for early voting from a maximum of 14 days to eight days. However, Scott and state election officials turned down the requests. Secretary of State Ken Detzner maintained that there was not a true emergency that justified the extension. What major changes are needed to add more booths? Let's look at one and see what they do. http://www.votebrevard.com/index.php?id=11 Quote What Does the Supervisor of Elections Do? It's funny to me that many, many, many, people find a way to wait numerous hours for black Friday, opening of stores for free giveaways and whatever else but to get off to go vote, or to even spend a few hours in line is an evil hassle brought on by the man. The Supervisor of Elections is the official designated by Florida law and the county charter to administer elections and voter registration for Brevard County. The primary duties of the Supervisor and her staff are: Conduct all public elections in Brevard County, including city elections Register voters and issue voter information cards Remove voters from the registered voter rolls who no longer live in Florida, are deceased, or for any other reason are no longer eligible to vote in Florida Change information on registered voter rolls when a change request is received (e.g., name, address, party affiliation) Send advance notice of election to voters who are overseas, in the military, or who request notification Accept absentee ballot requests and send, receive and verify absentee ballots Qualify candidates for county offices Receive candidate campaign finance reports for county offices and make them available to the public Receive financial disclosure reports from elected county officials and make them available to the public Maintain election equipment Hire and train pollworkers Acquire and equip polling places Maintain statistics on election results, voting history and voter registration Verify petition signatures for initiative petitions and candidate qualifying petitions Maintain precinct information, including a listing of streets and parts of streets that are in each precinct In addition, the Supervisor and members of her staff are available to speak to schools and civic groups about elections, voter registration and voting. Please contact the Elections Office if you are interested in scheduling a speaker. Under Florida law, F.S. 668.6076, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public-records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. Brevard County Supervisor of Elections * www.votebrevard.com Counties are a lot bigger than a "part of town". So if you are in a "Demorcratic part of town" in a "republican county" it is probably headed up by a republican. South Florida (where Brian lives) counties are democrat and north Florida is republican. The I-4 corridor is the wild card. It goes from Daytona to Orlando to Tampa and is what usually gets killed by politicians. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Landshark on November 07, 2012, 08:13:54 am South Florida (where Brian lives) counties are democrat and north Florida is republican. The I-4 corridor is the wild card. It goes from Daytona to Orlando to Tampa and is what usually gets killed by politicians. And Obama trounced Romney in that I-4 corridor. BTW, what happened to the site? I kept trying to get on it all night last night to talk about what I was watching on TV. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Fau Teixeira on November 07, 2012, 08:17:43 am And Obama trounced Romney in that I-4 corridor. BTW, what happened to the site? I kept trying to get on it all night last night to talk about what I was watching on TV. ISP issues, they corrected my support ticket this morning Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: mboss on November 07, 2012, 09:08:21 am ISP issues, they corrected my support ticket this morning I thought Badger crashed the site last night....Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Buddhagirl on November 07, 2012, 10:32:22 am It's awfully quiet up in here.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: bsfins on November 07, 2012, 10:55:19 am I'm happy to see more states approve gay marriage
I'm happy maybe we'll get normal T.V. commercials again Some of my side won,and some of my side lost... State of Missouri things... (These might sound strange) I'm surprised,by the people that are surprised the Senate race between Claire McCaskill and Todd Akin was even close (the final numbers aren't close now after it's all tallied up,but it was closer last night).We voted for a dead guy... Not raising the Cigarette tax from .17 to .90 a pack failed... I'm most happy it's all over for awhile.... Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Spider-Dan on November 07, 2012, 11:01:43 am Big thanks go out to all the Florida posters here who waited through the long lines to cast their votes. It's people like you that made the difference.
I'll leave you with a tweet from Reggie Bush (https://twitter.com/reggie_bush/status/266035741509959682): (http://c0014559.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_f775935) Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Buddhagirl on November 07, 2012, 11:24:19 am Off topic: I LOVE E-40!
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: mecadonzilla on November 07, 2012, 11:48:07 am All the conservative butthurt has been so sweet, I think I'm getting diabetes.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Brian Fein on November 07, 2012, 12:00:05 pm I'm pretty disgusted by the hate-mongering on Facebook and other social media sites. Your candidate lost - fine. Doesn't mean you have to be truly mean to those who voted against you. People are literally belittling and name-calling out there, just because of a different point of view.
Makes it easy to see who your friends really are. Its pretty disgusting. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Landshark on November 07, 2012, 12:01:48 pm I'm pretty disgusted by the hate-mongering on Facebook and other social media sites. Your candidate lost - fine. Doesn't mean you have to be truly mean to those who voted against you. People are literally belittling and name-calling out there, just because of a different point of view. Makes it easy to see who your friends really are. Its pretty disgusting. The belittling and name-calling for my Facebook friends has been non-existent. But I do see a lot of whining and complaining and "woe is us" posts from my friends who supported Romney. They're acting like children who didn't get their way last night and now refuse to get over it. I'm sure this will die down in a couple days. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Spider-Dan on November 07, 2012, 12:33:31 pm Over in Cali, I'm seeing a lot of victory laps. I'm sure the conservatives on this side are dismayed by leftists "rubbing it in."
Oh well. Elections have consequences. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Landshark on November 07, 2012, 12:46:37 pm In all seriousness, Obama now has four more years to make good on the promises he made when he first took office. Last night, he promised to "reach across the political divide" to work with the Republicans to help better this country.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 07, 2012, 01:29:03 pm In all seriousness, Obama now has four more years to make good on the promises he made when he first took office. Last night, he promised to "reach across the political divide" to work with the Republicans to help better this country. He has actually done a pretty good job there. To be clear here is how I define keeping or breaking a promise by politicans. They must make an earnest attempt to accomplish the goal. E.g. If a canidate promises to lower taxes and then proposes in congress legistation to lower taxes and the bill gets voted down and in fact another bill passes that raises taxes but that person votes against the tax increase -- than that person kept their promise even thought the result was the oppose of what they promised. I hold that standard for both sides of the aisle. Typically when I have a problem with a politican it is not because he broke his promise it is because I don't want what he promised in the first place. Most republicans are not upset that Obamacare doesn't go as far as Obama first promised, but that for the most part he kept his promise of universal health care. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: bsmooth on November 07, 2012, 02:55:04 pm Was the board down last night? I could not get the page to come up.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: badger6 on November 07, 2012, 03:15:30 pm I would like to congratulate all of my lefty dolphins friends for their victory last night. I actually would have done it half way through the election last night but it seems that the site was down as previously noted. Anyhow, live it up guys and gals, enjoy your victory. I think 4 years from now most will look back on this as a Pyrrhic victory with much regret. Enjoy the ride, it's gonna get rough.
I thought Badger crashed the site last night.... Au contraire mon frere !!! I have no need or desire to crash anything. Just another day of life. The balance of power has not changed at all in this country. I have been resigned to an Obama reelection for a long time now. Our tipping point is here, the country is like a 70 lb dog carrying 71 lbs of ticks with more ticks jumping on everyday. For me, this contingency has been anticipated on my end and I have been getting my affairs in order. Although most of you here are getting what you voted for. My suggestion to all of my dolphin friends would be to get your affairs in order, hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. ENJOY................. Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Spider-Dan on November 07, 2012, 04:41:01 pm badger6, I felt the same way when Bush was re-elected, and my feelings were proven justified when our heavily de-regulated economy cratered.
Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: badger6 on November 07, 2012, 05:19:27 pm badger6, I felt the same way when Bush was re-elected, and my feelings were proven justified when our heavily de-regulated economy cratered. So in 4 years, if we are much worse off or doing the same. Are you saying that you might question the direction that we took in 2008 or 2012 and who you voted for ? Or does that only go for Bush ? Title: Re: Election 2012 live blog Post by: Spider-Dan on November 07, 2012, 06:39:10 pm Depends on the reason.
If we are doing worse because we just didn't lower taxes enough, or because all of the doctors quit because there were too many patients, then maybe. If, however, we are doing worse because Obama didn't go far enough in Wall Street regulation, or because we're spending too much blood and treasure on foreign wars... well, it's just silly to think that electing McCain or Romney would have fixed that problem. |